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Pros for doing a private sale?

Started by ss400k
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 405
Member since: Nov 2008
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..aside from making buyer feel he gets a 'special deal' prior to listing the apt on MLS or NYtimes, CList, etc..just curious if anyone had experience.. this is a cookie cutter 2 bedroom downtown..
Response by urbangreener
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 30
Member since: Jan 2009

I tried selling my place FSBO for a few months and did not get any great offers. Everyone wanted a deal, even though I priced it lower to split the difference of the brokers fee. I am currently with a broker and find that they bring in more foreign buyers and not the locals I was getting by posting on craigslist and NYtimes. I definitely would recommend using a broker, and not a big broker but a small firm that might be willing to work with you on the brokers fee and is easily accessible. Some of these big brokers think they are celebs and won't return calls or emails for days. I can give you my brokers info if you would like. I highly recommend him...

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Response by vslse65
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 226
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urbangreener: did you list it on SE?

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Response by urbangreener
almost 13 years ago
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I did not post on streeteasy.

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Response by Ottawanyc
almost 13 years ago
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A middle ground that most FSBOs seem to advocate is opening it up to buyers brokers. Then you would still the foreign buyers etc.

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Response by urbangreener
almost 13 years ago
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After a few open houses, I did open up to buyers brokers but still couldn't get any great offers. I believe they thought I was desperate to sell. Anyway, it's the buyers loss because now I am in contract for 18% more by using a broker. just my 2 cents...

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Response by vslse65
almost 13 years ago
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SE is a great site to list. Many brokers use it for both buying/selling. As Ottawanyc said, "buyers brokers welcomed" on listings will get more traction. Two of my photography clients are about list their condos as FSBO in the UWS. Priced under comps even with buyer's side commission.

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Response by vslse65
almost 13 years ago
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Congrats. In the end, it's all about getting the deal done.

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Response by scarednycgal
almost 13 years ago
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What is FSBO?

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Response by mym
almost 13 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2009

Definitely think that you should list on SE. Try it by yourself for 3-4 weeks, and then you can switch to a broker if you wish.

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Response by ss400k
over 12 years ago
Posts: 405
Member since: Nov 2008

thanks for thoughts on ur exp urbangreener...

but what i meant was an actual "private sale" with no listing to the public whether via a broker or not..

i think what you are inferring is whether using a broker or not (i can see both sides to this coin), which still gets listed to the public regardless.. but what I meant was truly private sale between 2 parties (and brokers if they have, tho probably not unless used as admin for closing if too busy or foreigner) without the public ever knowing of the listing, save closing docs via ACRIS.. thanks

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Response by ss400k
over 12 years ago
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ps .. please share your broker if you want to publicly..

we are also purchasing in midtown west, so he can get double, but we are pretty familiar with purchasing already, but who knows

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Response by urbangreener
over 12 years ago
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ss400k: I have no experience with "private sale". sorry for the confusion.

As for my broker, I highly recommend Rolan Sereny from Brick & Mortar. brickandmortar.com He has brokered the sale and rental of 2 of my properties, and is honest, motivated and best of all, he always picks up his phone. tell him max sent you...

Good luck!

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Response by ss400k
over 12 years ago
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danke max!

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Response by gcondo
over 12 years ago
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I found that large brokerages generally would not bring their buyers to FSBO. Just a way they protect the cartel.

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Response by front_porch
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

"private sale" is usually for when the seller doesn't want a lot of customers tromping through their apartment -- either they are a person of note who wants to protect their privacy (Conan O'Brien's apartment was never formally listed) or they have a new baby or just had an operation or for some other reason don't want to have to work with juggling showing requests for different dates and times.

If you're not in either of those categories, I don't see how it benefits you to limit your potential audience. The general rule in the real estate industry is that widespread exposure (and in Manhattan/Brooklyn that generally means REBNY database, NYTimes, Streeteasy, Trulia, etc.) gets you the best price.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by fieldschester
about 12 years ago
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This has been given up in favor of the 4%?

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Response by yikes
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

good exposure would cost you a few hundred bux and take a couple of hours to set up.

what can impede a sale is having negotiation filtered through brokers who gain nothing from not insuring you get best reasonable price. they want deals done. preventing you from selling under market is of no help to them. quick deals are what help them. your agenda and their's are diametrically opposed. read freakonomics--great chapter on this very mismatch.

and to stap a 6% tax on a deal, where unnecessary give all parties nore roon to get to a pleasing price.

get a good lawyer, yes--a broker, no.

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Response by yikes
about 12 years ago
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private sale might be to an adjoining neighbor or other building resident. If you are good with price, private deals are great. Your buyer is known to your board, and knows the rope with closing and all else re the building. No surprises prior to closing. Unless your neighbor is a con like buddy fletcher. Avoid cons!

also, with anm adjoining neighbor, you are not competing with other sellers. yours is the only apt that would work for their specific plan. bring that concept to negotiation.

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Response by yikes
about 12 years ago
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wow, nice sentence.

and to not strap a 6% tax on a deal, where unnecessary, gives both parties more room to get to a pleasing price.

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Response by fieldschester
about 12 years ago
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I agree with yikes about cons.
Sorry C0C0.

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