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Coop Financial Condition

Started by NYCDowntown
over 12 years ago
Posts: 71
Member since: Jul 2009
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I live in a well managed coop on the UES. Each year I take 10 minutes to review the financials of the building. The annual depreciation amount is roughly 300K. I see that each year, the shareholder's equity drops by roughly 300K, which is exactly the amount of the depreciation. Just a few years ago, the shareholder's Equity was 3.3M. This year, it dropped to another 300K to 2M. If this continues, in just 6 years or so, the shareholder's equity will be below ZERO! Is this something we should be worried about? Hopefully someone can shed light on this. Thanks!
Response by NWT
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

That "assets = liabilities + equity" formula means nothing in the context of a co-op or condo. Eventually the book value of the building will depreciate to nothing, with a corresponding decrease in equity. It's the cash and any underlying mortgage that matter.

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Response by NYCDowntown
over 12 years ago
Posts: 71
Member since: Jul 2009

Great to know. I was so worried that this will lead to some kind of bankruptcy. So a negative equity will not cause the coop board to significantly increase maintenance right?

Thanks again.

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Response by caonima
over 12 years ago
Posts: 815
Member since: Apr 2010

"the shareholder's Equity was 3.3M. This year, it dropped to another 300K to 2M. "

is it the key to admit into the rich circle? no wonder the smart asses out there cannot find a 50K job

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Response by NYCDowntown
over 12 years ago
Posts: 71
Member since: Jul 2009

Caonima: as I mentioned above, a few years ago, it was 3.3m. This past year the amount went down by 300k, to 2m, which implies that last year was 2.3m. Was the statement really that stupid?

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Response by Truth
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2009

NYCDowntown:

Please trust NWT. He explains the formula to you, in an easy to understand way.
NWT knows what he's talking about.

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Response by Oxymoronic
over 12 years ago
Posts: 165
Member since: Dec 2007

NYCDowntown - I think it's a valid question. I agree with NWT that it's nothing to worry about. The whole accounting methodology of depreciation means that many of the assets have been written off over the years to be worth little or nothing in accounting terms. This doesn't mean that they're actually worth nothing and does not impact the cashflow.

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