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7/1 arm

Started by columbiazulu
over 12 years ago
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Hi, what is the usual margin that is added to libor on reset of the 7/1 arm? I'm being shown libor + 2.25%, wondering if that's what it is, or i should request a better one?
Response by brettjw
over 12 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Oct 2012

It is typically libor+2.25, but more importantly I would request/push for 2/2/5 rather than 5/2/5 cap structure to protect yourself against higher rates upon reset in 7yrs.

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Response by columbiazulu
over 12 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Mar 2010

oh ok, they have shown 5/2/5. i assume though that if they do 2/2/5, it would entail a higher start rate? right now i'm being quoted 2.5% for the first 7 years.

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Response by Guywithcat
over 12 years ago
Posts: 329
Member since: Apr 2011

wells fargo has a product where the first portion is an I/O fixed for a term, which resets to the SAME fixed rate but amortized of the rest of the period. So for example you would get a 10/20 which is 10 years interest only at say, 3.5% (rates a little higher on this product) then in 10 years it converts to a FIXED rate at 3.5% fully amortizing loan, however the payoff term is 20 years. An $800k loan would be roughly $2250 for 10 years, then $4400 for 20 years. It's the best product out there in my opinion. YOu pay off so little principal in the 7/1 arm that I dont see the point except to lower the payment. if that is the priority, then IMHO this Wells product is better.

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Response by brooksvale
over 12 years ago
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GWC - I would not characterize ~16% of mortgage balance paid over 7 years in sched prin amortization as 'so little'. as expected, ARM mortgage choices are dependent on 1) aversion to payment changes, 2) aversion to leverage 3) duration of expected ownership & 4) expectations of fwd mortgage rates.

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Response by columbiazulu
over 12 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Mar 2010

Very interesting. Unfortunately, I'm on the verge of closing, I'd initially gone for a 30yr fixed, and was only made aware of the potential to do the ARMs (it was my fault initially for not even considering the ARMs, i should've done that while i was applying for the mortgage).
In any case, it seems like fanniemae guidelines require a 25% downpayment (rather than 20%) on about a 600k mortgage loan? Is that true? If so, I can't really opt for the ARM as the underwriting process has to begin again but I need to close in a week.

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Response by Guywithcat
over 12 years ago
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Brooksvale makes a good point. I agree.

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Response by Guywithcat
over 12 years ago
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you can google to get latest fannie requirements.

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Response by columbiazulu
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2010

yea i've been trying to find it with respect to new york guidelines, but can't get it. if you do happen to have a link, could you please post it. i'll keep looking, thanks for all the help.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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>Brooksvale makes a good point. I agree.

Thought I was on ignore

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Response by brettjw
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2012

yes - all else equal 2/2/5 cap structure should cost more for the borrower (higher rate) than 5/2/5. if wells is really offering 10/20 IO, it's a matter of rate and leverage preferred.

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Response by jimmcp
over 12 years ago
Posts: 58
Member since: Jul 2009

Columbia. Tell your loan officer to reset the product from a FNMA product to a Jumbo product and you will be able to do the loan at 80% LTV. Many loan officers dont understand that they can do this, but it is the easiest solution to get around the 5% restriction. The rates should be pretty similar, as we would likey be right around there on a jumbo 7/1 interest only.

Jim McPartland
AVP, Mortgage Banking
Bank of America Home Loans
50 Rockefeller Plaza, 11th Fl.
New York, NY 10020
(646) 556-0207 Direct
(917) 993-2358 Mobile
(866) 614-4829 Fax
james.mcpartland@bankofamerica.com
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