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How to get board to extend 2-yr max rental period?

Started by nyctob
over 11 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Sep 2008
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I own a unit in a co-op. I rent it out. The co-op rules limit rentals to a 2-year period. I am looking for ways around this rule or to change it completely, as both my tenant and I are happy with the current arrangement. The board members like my tenant, but I think they will be reluctant to set a precedent that allows owners to rent their units for as long as they want. Has anyone been through this before? I am looking for creative solutions!
Response by RealEstateNY
over 11 years ago
Posts: 772
Member since: Aug 2009

You live in a co-op not a condo. If you wanted to rent indefinitely you should have purchased a condo. Unlikely the board will waive the rule for you, what's in it for them?

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Response by FreebirdNYC
over 11 years ago
Posts: 337
Member since: Jun 2007

buy a condo

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Response by sippelmc
over 11 years ago
Posts: 142
Member since: Sep 2007

If the Corporation takes a cut of OP's rent, they have some incentive and that'd be my angle to play, alongside of asking about owner occupancy in building at present.

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Response by nyctob
over 11 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Sep 2008

I did not buy it intending to rent it out at all. I was forced to move out west for work and would like to keep the apartment, as I may be back someday, but can't afford the mortgage if I'm not renting it out.

What's in it for the board? The board collects a fee (though it's small) from me for renting the unit. Also, the board is happy with the tenant, and if I'm forced to sell they have to go through the hassle of approving a new buyer and potentially ending up with someone they don't like quite as much.

There have been renters in the building in the past, but they have not stayed for more than 2 years.

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Response by rb345
over 11 years ago
Posts: 1273
Member since: Jun 2009

NYCTOB:

Unless you are able to excel in Monica Lewinsky's course in "How to Win Friends and Influence
People", you're just going to have to explain your situation to your Coop board and hope that
they will accommodate you.

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Response by truthskr10
over 11 years ago
Posts: 4088
Member since: Jul 2009

There are other considerations as well.
Limits on renting are there to control how many total units in the co-op are rented at one time so as not to go over the owner occupancy threshold for lending into the building.

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Response by sohoman
over 11 years ago
Posts: 76
Member since: Mar 2013

How about show the board one or two year rental agreement and have a separate rider with the tenant that you don't show to board that extends it beyond 2 years?

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Response by NYCMatt
over 11 years ago
Posts: 7523
Member since: May 2009

"I did not buy it intending to rent it out at all. I was forced to move out west for work and would like to keep the apartment, as I may be back someday"

As a co-op board president, "someday" isn't good enough.

This is why we have rules.

We understand that life situations change. That's why you're always welcome to SELL.

If you want your cake AND want to eat it too, next time buy a house or a condo.

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Response by bramstar
over 11 years ago
Posts: 1909
Member since: May 2008

There is a reason sublet limits (and other co-op house rules) are in place. The board may 'love' your tenant but what happens if they make an exception for you and then are flooded with requests to allow other shareholders to extend subleases? The whole purpose of time limits is to prevent exactly what you are trying to do, great tenant or no. If you cannot abide by the co-op rules then your option is to sell. As a board member myself I would far rather have a good shareholder living in my building than a long-term subtenant, no matter how nice and respectful that tenant happened to be.

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Response by crescent22
over 11 years ago
Posts: 953
Member since: Apr 2008

You need to invite the Board President to Daniel or Per Se and discuss your need to pay a consulting fee for advice on dealing with boards in general.

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Response by jelj13
over 11 years ago
Posts: 821
Member since: Sep 2011

Ask them for a waiver due to extenuating circumstances and keep your fingers crossed. Occasionally a building will do that for you. However, many people in a coop buy in just because they don't want renters.

I just moved into a coop just because they are very strict about subletting. After many years in a condo, I just got fed up with increasing number of owners who used them as rental properties. The tone of the building changed with the increase of renters.

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Response by aalsberg
over 11 years ago
Posts: 99
Member since: Mar 2011

Not much you can do, most boards are very strict on these types of rules, Maybe this is a gift, its a great time to sell now unlike 2 years ago when you rented it out

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Response by f1champ
over 11 years ago
Posts: 60
Member since: Dec 2012

We used to rent in a coop with 2 year limit (at least on paper) but they have made exceptions over the years as coop management/shareholders gets 20% of the total yearly rent and we were good tenats. We rented close to 4.5 years.

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Response by REMom
over 11 years ago
Posts: 307
Member since: Apr 2009

You should sell now and buy back in when you're ready to move back.

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