I'm re-posting this because the title of the other post might be confusing, and the narrative might be too long there as well. Am hoping to get some good advice. I started a permitting process for renovation of an HDFC co-op (2 bedroom unit), but have delayed the process due to a lack of funds. The only major changes I made to the unit was the removal of a non-structural wall, re-locating the sink... [more]
I'm re-posting this because the title of the other post might be confusing, and the narrative might be too long there as well. Am hoping to get some good advice.
I started a permitting process for renovation of an HDFC co-op (2 bedroom unit), but have delayed the process due to a lack of funds. The only major changes I made to the unit was the removal of a non-structural wall, re-locating the sink by several inches, and installation of a washer/dryer. I got board approval with the understanding that I would go through with permitting. But I've since been told that these changes really don't require a permit. Because I am extremely low on funds, is there anything wrong with abandoning the permit process entirely? Could there be a problem with the board later (ie, upon their discovery or if I ever have to go to resell)?
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Thanks. It wasn't filed. I asked them to halt temporarily. Does anyone know if there would be a problem with abandoning so far as the board is concerned?
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Response by uptown_joe
over 11 years ago
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If you actually did any work requiring filing (which contrary to your information from others, is needed for any wall removal and for new plumbing serving the laundry), the board would be doing the responsible thing in requiring you to get the paperwork and legalize the work that was already done without filing/permitting.
That said they or the managing agent may not insist. Clearly they are not 100% on top of this as a fully-diligent board would insist on seeing your DOB approvals and contractor permits prior to allowing any work to begin. But even if they don't insist now they could insist later (e.g. on resale or anytime before then).
If you have an alteration agreement in place you could try to wrap up the job by saying you are done with the work and asking for your deposit back. That gives the board/manager an opportunity to ask for the permits without you broaching the subject directly.
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Response by Anonymous2013
over 11 years ago
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Thank you so much for your comment. In fact, I already have my escrow deposit back. But I'm not sure if that is the deposit you are referring to? Please feel free to clarify.
What would be the consequences of not being able to produce permits or approvals at re-sale or at some time in the future (if asked)? Thanks again for your help!
Did anybody (your architect?) file the job with the Department of Buildings? You can look up your building here, then click Jobs/Filings: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/html/home/home.shtml
Thanks. It wasn't filed. I asked them to halt temporarily. Does anyone know if there would be a problem with abandoning so far as the board is concerned?
If you actually did any work requiring filing (which contrary to your information from others, is needed for any wall removal and for new plumbing serving the laundry), the board would be doing the responsible thing in requiring you to get the paperwork and legalize the work that was already done without filing/permitting.
That said they or the managing agent may not insist. Clearly they are not 100% on top of this as a fully-diligent board would insist on seeing your DOB approvals and contractor permits prior to allowing any work to begin. But even if they don't insist now they could insist later (e.g. on resale or anytime before then).
If you have an alteration agreement in place you could try to wrap up the job by saying you are done with the work and asking for your deposit back. That gives the board/manager an opportunity to ask for the permits without you broaching the subject directly.
Thank you so much for your comment. In fact, I already have my escrow deposit back. But I'm not sure if that is the deposit you are referring to? Please feel free to clarify.
What would be the consequences of not being able to produce permits or approvals at re-sale or at some time in the future (if asked)? Thanks again for your help!