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Brexit Effect on NY RE Market?

Started by CCL3
over 9 years ago
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Discussion about
http://www.wsj.com/articles/brexit-expected-to-rattle-u-s-economy-shake-its-influence-1466741275 Will instability overseas cause more foreign investors to put their money into US assets, such as NY RE, or will the further strengthening dollar put a further damper on demand? Thoughts?
Response by 300_mercer
over 9 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

CCL, Unclear. Some short term impact but no crash.
If you believe SPX is reflecting the future damage at 2.5% down, the impact will be minimal due to Brexit. Fed will be on hold for longer than you may think which will provide support. I think we are in much lower interest rate environment for the long run now due to "new normal" at 2% growth.

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Response by bluesky2472
over 9 years ago
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Think it makes London RE less attractive so may benefit NYC

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Response by steveF
over 9 years ago
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http://therealdeal.com/2016/06/24/brexit-everyone-panic-except-new-york/

EVERY article that comes up when search "Brexit effect on Manhattan Real Estate" shows a clear favorable impact for NYC. NY is now the place to park assets when it was once London.

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Response by front_porch
over 9 years ago
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Well, at least I'm in the middle of relocating a client from London to New York. (sigh)

My best guess, though, is probably a wash? Doug Duncan of Fannie Mae, who is one of my favorite economists, forecasts continued low interest rates, and if you're looking to buy with a mortgage, that's a good thing. On the other hand, I don't see this as an event that suddenly causes London investors who weren't already over here to come over here, in the face of a stronger dollar and new anti-money-laundering regs.

Certainly, historically, stock market turmoil isn't good for NYC Real Estate. Buyers with thinner wallets may think prices should come down, but sellers won't be quick to capitulate -- it could be bumpy from now all the way through the election.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 9 years ago
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How did the last downturn start? A banking crisis overseas that made it's way here.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 9 years ago
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30, It was US subprime driven bust which had shown up in cdo securities form all over the world. PIGS added to the issue.

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Response by bluesky2472
over 9 years ago
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what is "PIGS"?

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Response by Aaron2
over 9 years ago
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"Portugal, Italy, Greece, & Spain", or PIIGS if you add Ireland, the principal countries who had problems refinancing government debt or had to bail out banks during the last debt crisis.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 9 years ago
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We just saw a 1 day 600 point drop in the Dow. Is it a total coincidence that this happened 1 day after the vote? Possibly, but when I hear hoof beats I tend to think horses, not zebras.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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Right you country slicker, you!

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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DOW as at 17425 on 12/31/2015, and now at 17401. Oh no!

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Response by NYC10007
over 9 years ago
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Drop in treasury yields should at least help out the refi market for a while. Yay cheaper money!! Leaving my 30 YR fixed of 3.625% to a 7/1, locked at 2.625% but waiting for a drop to 2.375% to reset before closing. Bring it on!

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Response by 300_mercer
over 9 years ago
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10007, Which bank and LTV? Thanks.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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Apparently 300_mercer doesn't play in the big leagues, that's why he trolls Streeteasy.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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The DOW is up 8 points in 2 days. Oh no!
By the way, I called the peak in prime Manhattan RE in Q2 last year and am not seeing any indication that the call at that time needs revision.

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Response by anonymousbk
over 9 years ago
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What price range fieldschester? When is the trough?

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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Prime Manhattan AnonymousBK. I'm not predicting the trough - timing or amount, maybe when we are in it I'll see it and let ppl know. But we hit the peak a year plus ago.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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Prime Manhattan, AnonymousBK. I'm not predicting the trough - timing or amount, maybe when we are in it I'll see it and let ppl know. But we hit the peak a year plus ago.

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Response by fieldschester
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Response by tonyhoward255
over 9 years ago
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NYC high end real estate will benefit from London's partial loss of safe haven status among the world's elite

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Response by nyc1234
over 9 years ago
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I agree with you fully.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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We'll get a bigger slice of a smaller pie.
Net, negative. & continuing to be so.

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Response by fieldschester
over 9 years ago
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is the Brexit over?
I can't take it any more.

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Response by CarolineNYCGirl
over 9 years ago
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No one even remembers Brexit anymore haha

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