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Manhattan Real Estate starting to look Weak

Started by anonymous
almost 18 years ago
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Manhattan Second-Quarter Apartment Sales Drop Most Since 1998 By Sharon L. Lynch July 2 (Bloomberg) -- Manhattan apartment sales dropped the most for a second quarter since 1998 and unsold inventory approached an eight-year record, two signs prices may be poised to drop in the nation's most expensive urban housing market. Sales fell 22 percent from a year earlier and inventory rose 31 percent to... [more]
Response by petrfitz
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

hmmm sales prices up 15% to a record number? Sales units down from a record. What happens when all those sidelines sitters decide to jump back in.

I believe that NYC RE is through the financial crisis and could begin to pop soon barring any moronic attack on Iran - which would plunge us into a near Depression. Even Manhattan RE could not withstand that stupidity.

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Response by stevejhx
almost 18 years ago
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This is old news, no effect on Manhattan, isolated event. Sale prices up 15% to a record number. Blah blah blah blah.

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Response by anonymous
almost 18 years ago

Sideline sitters aren't going to have a job nor any bank to go to for financing (or at a horrible interest rate) in the very near future

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Response by MMAfia
almost 18 years ago
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It's interesting how the same information is "spun" two different ways.

In Bloomberg, the headline reads "Manhattan Apartment Sales Record Biggest Second-Quarter Decline Since 1998" which is quite a scary headline, and this is on the home page of Bloomberg.com to boot.

Yet, on NYTimes, the headline reads "Apartment Sales Remain Vigorous in Manhattan", and the link to the article is buried deep underneath, on the "N.Y. / Region" sub-site.

Just an interesting observation. Also, one must acknowledge that NYTimes gets some income from real-estate advertising, so one can make an argument of conflict of interest. It's harder to make that case with Bloomberg.com.

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Response by Commodities9
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

And the owners of the Times are SUBSTANTIAL real estate holders!!!!

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Response by EddieWilson
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2008

> "Apartment Sales Remain Vigorous in Manhattan"

Only the Times would spin a 46% decrease in co-op sales (most of Manhattan) and a 22% decline overall as vigorous. But, I guess when brokers and buildings are 100% of your revenue for a big chunk of your paper, this kind of journalistic integrity is warranted.

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Response by EddieWilson
almost 18 years ago
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Also, I saw an interview with the editor of the NYTimes RE section and he even admitted the bias.... the RE section is there for the advertisers.

The funniest was the day the RE section had an article on how things were rosy, and the front page of the times - on the same day - called the crash.

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2007

steve, how's buisness? At one point you mentioned that your services were correlated to the overall health of the economy. Have you seen a dip in demand over the last few months or are things going pretty well?

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Response by EddieWilson
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2008

"No effect on business" - broker shill

Manhattan co-op sales are down 46% YOY - the truth

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Response by alpine292
almost 18 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2008

I don't like the way the NY Times covers real estate. Unless you are able to afford a $5 million apartment, the NY Times thinks that you are a second class piece of garbage. I think the NY Times has written more pieces on multi million dollar real estate than they have about the war in Afghanistan.

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