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Started by muromec
over 8 years ago
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I am noticing more and more that rents are going down all over the place. Rental prices are lower now than 2014: https://www.zumper.com/apartments-for-rent/new-york-ny At the same time i am looking at the apartment prices @ Kalahari or Adeline , 40 west 116th str and 23 west 116th str. Prices went up 60 % on all apartments 1 br-3 br but rents went up approximately 20-30 % at the same time. I am talking about 2008-2014 and now.And now when rents are going down and it is getting difficult to rent out an apartment in addition to mismatch of price appreciation, should we expect a market correction very soon?
Response by muromec
over 8 years ago
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look at the bottom of the link page for market trends

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Response by 300_mercer
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I think high $ amount rents (over 10k per month) are down 10-15 percent). Ultra luxury (more than 20k per month) 25 percent. Not sure if 1 bed rooms are down that much. 2 bedrooms (6-7k) probably did not go up much or are down a touch.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Rents are actually down more than the statistics suggest because you have to figure in the boom in concessions (owners paying broker's fees and free rent).

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Response by muromec
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so based on the above , the market should go down , correct?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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That is what I have been saying on here for a while.

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Response by LuxuryBroker
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So when will some of these nice west side Manhattan new developments start trading below $2,000 PPSF? It's still no bargain. Not sure who they expect to pick up all of this supply.

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Response by 300_mercer
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Thought 1 West End is around $2k level.

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Response by Hkman
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Last winter I saw rents go down 15% to 20%. I am already seeing rents go down and expect the same softness this winter. Contrary to all the hype and the NYT is the biggest culprit of hype I think rents will go much lower. Starting salaries are lower, there is a ton of new inventory on the market and parents of millennials are realizing how ridiculous it is that they fund their kids barely working in luxury housing.

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Response by 9d8b7988045e4953a882
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If the NYC rental vacancy rate goes above 5%, I wonder if that will affect the postwar "housing emergency" as defined in the rent stabilization laws. Does anyone with legal knowledge have any insight into that?

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Nothing stopping passage of a new act which puts a stay. Something like - vacancy needs to be sustained over a period of x years.

http://www.nycrgb.org/html/about/intro%20PDF/Table2.pdf

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