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Reno: real or fake?

Started by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Discussion about 60 East 8th Street #9MN
Do not see a note in the listing.
Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 6 years ago
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A) it doesn't look good enough, and
B) it doesn't match the proposed floor plan,
So I'm going to guess current.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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I think fake except for kitchen. Bathroom has no signs of shower curtain or glass door. No overhead or other light fixture in the living room.

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Response by front_porch
over 6 years ago
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I put tenants into one of those two apartments a few years ago (yes, I work Georgetown Plaza! Don't everybody call at once!) and it sure wasn't in that condition. That might be the kitchen, but the bath was a double-sink, older bath. That plus the words "combo opportunity" in the listing lead me to call fake.

ali r.
{upstairs realty}

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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I'll agree that the bathroom looks like it's not from that apartment. I was thinking mostly the kitchen.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Do they actually have condominium rules or flexible coop rules?

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Response by front_porch
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This was back in the day, so I'd have to check with the managing agent (Rose, I think) to make sure nothing has changed, but the sublease I did felt like a condo to me (e.g. board required the owner to offer the sublet to the board, which had to waive its RFR).

ali r.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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There is no board interview. Just Rofr. For all practical purposes, it is condo. But the rules can change with super majority.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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What do you think it's worth? Seems like they are asking over $1,500/sf for raw space with no particularly great view, high ceilings, or anything else of outstanding merit?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Assuming it is raw, $1200 per sq ft as it faces Broadway. Ceiling are 9 feet. Building sales continue to surprise me on the upside. It is a well run building.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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Perhaps $1100 if it needs everything but does not seem like.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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I also like the raised platform where I see children playing and proximity to Washington Square Park.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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So, $2.1 to $2.3 million?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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If individual apartments are not in a decent rental condition. Yes. Building is zoned for PS41. So perhaps even $2.4mm to an end user.

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Response by Anton
over 6 years ago
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it is delisted today, does it mean it's in contract?

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Response by itesfai
over 6 years ago
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I like the "Brand new never lived in..." prefaced by "Tenant in Place" :)

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Response by Aaron2
over 6 years ago
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Tenant stayed in their Hamptons home while the renovation went on, and will be back in the fall, so not yet 'lived in'?

Reno looks nice. I've always been interested in the situations where a long-term renter puts significant sums into the apt that they will ultimately 'lose'. (I knew of a situation years ago on the UWS where an older stabilized or controlled tenant sprung for a pricey new kitchen, and died the following year. )

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Response by 300_mercer
over 6 years ago
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I think this one is owner's renovation.

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Response by Anton
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rent stabilized or controlled unit can pass on to friends and families through some way

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