Interesting presentation coming up tonight at CB8 / Landmarks for the redevelopment of 809 Madison (@ 68th St). It's a handsome, yet worn out building, so nice to see some love being given to it. Housing advocates can clutch their pearls about the reduction in units from 33 (2 1-BR + 1 2-BR/floor to 12 (1 unit per floor + duplex PH). (formerly: ... [more]
Interesting presentation coming up tonight at CB8 / Landmarks for the redevelopment of 809 Madison (@ 68th St). It's a handsome, yet worn out building, so nice to see some love being given to it. Housing advocates can clutch their pearls about the reduction in units from 33 (2 1-BR + 1 2-BR/floor to 12 (1 unit per floor + duplex PH).
(formerly: https://streeteasy.com/building/30-east-68-street-new_york)
Developer’s/Architect’s submitted presentation:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12_hUtVojI18l4_6K9p2tSkQOoJJ5S1uD/view
Old floor plan on pg 17 and 21, new typical floor plan on pg 21. Is there an emerging trend: the “morning kitchen”? Also, given the size of the 'library', it's more like a large entry to yet another full bath. How many of those will become bedrooms?)
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Response by jsw363
7 months ago
Posts: 235
Member since: Dec 2008
Could be a great project. My comments would be:
1) New building seems a bit large, like they're pushing every dimension to the max.
2) Layout's aren't ideal. The entryway that's public/common space between the MB and the rest of the apartment is odd. Who wants to walk to breakfast in a robe just as the porter is delivering the mail?
3) Morning Kitchen. I do like the morning kitchen; it seems healthier than putting a wet bar in the MB.
4) No fireplace--not even a fake one.
5) Library is tiny. Who would want to work there?
6) No mudroom. Where can kids drop their stuff?
Does anyone have a guess as to what each apartment would have to sell for in order to turn a profit? This looks like a massive undertaking.
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Response by stache
7 months ago
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Those upper Madison people fight anything different.
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Response by Aaron2
7 months ago
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The building is in the UES historic district, but I think if the developers proposed bright bronze mirrored glass sheathing and hot pink painted window mullions CB8 would bless it, and Landmarks would approve it, since it gets rid of a building full of 'ordinary' apartments with tenants who probably can't afford to buy all their goods on Madison Avenue, and reduces the population at that corner to 13 people who don't know that 'Morning Kitchen' is shorthand for 'we couldn't figure out what to do with this wide spot in the master bedroom hallway, even though we don't have any linen closets in the private wing.' I usually have reasonable amounts of respect for Stern's work, but, man, c'mon...
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Could be a great project. My comments would be:
1) New building seems a bit large, like they're pushing every dimension to the max.
2) Layout's aren't ideal. The entryway that's public/common space between the MB and the rest of the apartment is odd. Who wants to walk to breakfast in a robe just as the porter is delivering the mail?
3) Morning Kitchen. I do like the morning kitchen; it seems healthier than putting a wet bar in the MB.
4) No fireplace--not even a fake one.
5) Library is tiny. Who would want to work there?
6) No mudroom. Where can kids drop their stuff?
Does anyone have a guess as to what each apartment would have to sell for in order to turn a profit? This looks like a massive undertaking.
Those upper Madison people fight anything different.
The building is in the UES historic district, but I think if the developers proposed bright bronze mirrored glass sheathing and hot pink painted window mullions CB8 would bless it, and Landmarks would approve it, since it gets rid of a building full of 'ordinary' apartments with tenants who probably can't afford to buy all their goods on Madison Avenue, and reduces the population at that corner to 13 people who don't know that 'Morning Kitchen' is shorthand for 'we couldn't figure out what to do with this wide spot in the master bedroom hallway, even though we don't have any linen closets in the private wing.' I usually have reasonable amounts of respect for Stern's work, but, man, c'mon...