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what happens if a co-op can't refinance its mortgage?

Started by EEEE1
almost 17 years ago
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A question: I'm looking at buying an apartment in a co-op, but I think its mortgage matures in one year. What happens if they can't refinance, and can't convince some of the older owners (originally rent controlled tenants) to pony up to pay off the mortgage? Would the bank foreclose? Or would the bank just extend (albeit perhaps at a higher interest rate). Opinions please. thanks.
Response by NWT
almost 17 years ago
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Theoretically, the bank forecloses, sells the building at auction, and the shareholders become tenants of the new owner. I'd think the bank would extend rather than do that, but there have been foreclosures of small (e.g., rowhouse) co-ops in recent years. Quite a few went bust in the '30s.

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Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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I'm not sure I understand your hypothetical. If the coop can't refi and has to increase its monthly payments, then the board will increase maintenance accordingly. If any shareholder defaults on the increased payments, the coop can seek to take their apartment essentially. There are many steps before the coop would go into default. "Older owners" don't have to be convinced of anything--maintenance increases are not put to votes of the shareholders. They are set by the board. If the board decides to go into default, that's a messed up board.

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Response by NWT
almost 17 years ago
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I think EEEE1's scenario was the co-op being unable to either (1) pay off the principal or (2) refinance, when the mortgage comes due. It's apparently the common interest-only mortgage.

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Response by NWT
almost 17 years ago
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So, kyle, the board would just assess everybody their share of the mortgage, right? Same deal, no shareholder approval required.

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Response by anon10
almost 17 years ago
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EEEE1 - why do you think the coop won't be able to refinance? The value of a building, if it is a large one, can be tens of millions of dollars. Most underlying coop mortgages are no more than a few million, if that. The extremely low loan-to-value, the strong colleratal (the coop itself), diversified risk (not one person is responsible for the entire mortgage really but rather shareholders through their maintenance payments) should make it an easy refinance. I've never seen a coop building unable to refinance it's underlying mortgage.

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Response by KeithBurkhardt
almost 17 years ago
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Perhaps they will refi at a much better rate and your mnt. will go down :)

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Response by NWT
almost 17 years ago
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I think he's talking a "what if the world as we know it collapses" hypothetical.

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