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Rent Differential - Low Floor vs. High Floor

Started by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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Am considering two apartments in a full service lux rental building, one w/ "magnificent views" the other with "helicopter views" per the broker listings. The apartments are exactly the same - same finishes, appliances, etc., except for the floor. Is there a formula to calculate a reasonable rent differential between the lower and higher floor?
Response by cccharley
almost 17 years ago
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I don't think so. I can tell you that when I rented our exact apt on the 33rd floor with magnificent views was asking $350 more per month -not sure what it rented at. Ours is on the fifth floor. Are you looking in Murray Hill btw - one side of my bldg has helicopter views

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Response by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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No, different part of town. Price difference between the 2 apts. is $1100, with about 20 floors difference. Seems high, yes?

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Response by jason10006
almost 17 years ago
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Also, noise and critters can be a factor for the first 5-7 floors.

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Response by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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Agree on the noise/critters factor on a lower floor. "Magnificent views" apt. is on 15th floor, "helicopter views" on 36th floor, and there is little street noise evident in the 15th floor unit. Does $1100 difference make sense? Should it be less in current environment?

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 17 years ago
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only makes or doesn't make sense if someone is willing or unwilling to pay. that's currently up to you.

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Response by newbuyer6
almost 17 years ago
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I live on 35th floor of a 47 floor rental building. We moved from 10th floor to 35th floor within the buidling two year ago. Apartments are almost identical with a slightly large hall closet and obviously much better views on the 35th floor. The difference in rent was only $400. I think $1,100 seems a lot. Could be worth negotiating for a reduction but that also depends on the overall rent of the apartment.

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Response by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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Thanks, newbuyer6. I calc'd $20/floor x 20 = $400, so you've given me something definitive. The overall rent of the "helicopter view" unit is high - mid-$5K for 2br/2ba with w/d.

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
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Agreed... its noise, then light, then view of things. If you're above other building already, then another few floors won't make as much of a difference until it gets to the seeing the rivers and other state kind of thing. I think its more about the specific views and light than "height".

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Response by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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OK, maybe not definitive, newbuyer6, but certainly something I can use in my negotiations. Thanks.

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Response by polydoa
almost 17 years ago
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Landlords have often used and quoted the $50 per floor increase in luxury buildings, but I think given the state of things now, $1100 might be excessive.

The Capitol in Chelsea (6th Avenue) has 19E listed at $2950 and 30E at $3050, $100 for 11 floors!
Their floor plans are identical, but I don't know if there are other things at play...

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Response by mpark
almost 17 years ago
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Good point nyc10022. One could argue that Central Park views are "worth" more than cityscape views and I'm sure the landlord will try that route in negotiating. Thanks for the $50/floor figure, polydoa. Have to agree that given the current market, we're in new territory. Maybe $20-$30/floor is the new $50.

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