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Started by bakabakakun
almost 15 years ago
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Hey guys, was just talking to a contractor about putting in new shades for my apartment. It's a two bedroom apartment, and I want to put motorized shades in the living room, and manual shades in the bedroom. To my astonishment, I was told that I need 6 separate motorized shades in the living room, at $2000ea inc cost of labor, and 3 manual shades per br at $1000ea. It turns out that this endeavor will cost approximately $19k. Note that only the living room windows are floor to ceiling. The bedrooms have tiny 10 by 10 windows. Has anyone done window treatments recently who could post their price estimates? I just want to know if I'm getting a sucker's deal.
Response by RE2009
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

that seems high.. i just did the bedroom and two in the living room. both rooms are motorized and including everything it was $4,700.

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Response by bakabakakun
almost 15 years ago
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Can you tell me which brand you got, and the contractor you used?

I want to ask for a few more quotes before deciding on what to get, as the price really is quite crazy. Not to mention these aren't even lutrons.

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Response by Primer05
almost 15 years ago
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Bakabakakun

I think those prices a resonable. The electrician has to run lines and in doing so will be chopping the walls which then have to be patched and painted.

As far as the manuel shades if they are good ones like Hunter Douglas they could run you close to 1000k each.

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Response by RE2009
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

Bak- i used shading systems inc. ask for scott.
primer brings up an excellent point.. my windows were pre-wired for motorized shades so that may have helped with the costs..
It's not an inexpensive job by any means so great to get a few quotes. Shading was not the cheapest but the best selection of colors and scott is excellent.
good luck!

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Response by NYRENewbie
almost 15 years ago
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Just did double motorized shades in Miami, double story floor to ceiling windows, solar shade and black out shade requiring 2 motors for @ $11,000 Got 3 bids and that was the lowest. Those suckers are expensive!

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Response by ramcey
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2011

That price sounds about right, IF it includes cutting walls, running wires
and other cosmetic work. I sell Lutron motorized and manual shades. They're
the best quality in the industry and whisper quiet in operation. You might
have been quoted for Lutron, which is a little more expensive than some of
the other good quality products, but worth every penny. If you're going to
spend this kind of $, you want reliability and perfect operation for many
years to come. Broken shades in an apartment with large windows and views
can be a real bummer.

I'm not sure that I'd characterize a 10' X 10' window in your BR as "tiny".
To do it right, you need to make sure you've got a quality product that will
not sag in the middle and that also has good quality clutches and chains
required to open and close a shade *easily* and *smoothly* in that size.
A 10' X 10" piece of fabric weighs more than you think, especially if you
want blackout in the bedroom. Keep that in mind.

Finally, Lutron uses a very beautiful and high quality metal valance that
conceal the tube roller and fabric, from both the front view *and* from
below. It's another reason that they're more expensive but the look is
stunningly good!

Ramcey
Lighting & Shade Solutions
Nashville, TN
615 319-8400

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Response by mynycse
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2010

I am researching similar thing. Any recommendation on vendors in NYC?

I am thinking of doing something from floor to ceiling and the width is 14 feet (yes, 14 feet, a big piece). Is this even possible?

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Response by bakabakakun
almost 15 years ago
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I think they will just do 2 at 7 ft. My apartment is 28ft, it could be done with 3, but for stylistic reasons, I wanted it done with 6.

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Response by mynycse
almost 15 years ago
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I was quoted 17K for one shade (Yes, 17K just for one motorized shade).

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Response by RE2009
almost 15 years ago
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OMG!! nuts!!

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Response by PMG
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2008

Before you spend too much on motorized shades, keep in mind they need to be re-strung occasionally. My four "lifetime warrantee" Hunter Douglas shades have been re-strung at least two times each. I picked up a set at Janovic today and got a quote to replace four large manual Hunter Douglas blackout shades: $1,900 (that's right, ten percent of your quote)

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Response by NWT
almost 15 years ago
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I've had the same problem with manual Hunter Douglas honeycomb shades. The thin string gets frayed by the metal grasping thingie. I've restrung the two heavy-usage ones in the living room with fishing line. Next time I'll try the kind where the string winds around an axle that's turned by a chain loop at the side.

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Response by bakabakakun
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

Was just told I'm getting Somfy. Any comments their quality?

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Response by Cpalms
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2007

I had my two back floor to ceiling windows done with Lutron blinds ...both 10 X 14....with both solar and black out and my building had been prewired, etc...$16,000...expensive but worth it...don't get anything but Lutron...

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Response by gobri30
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Nov 2009

Make sure you HEAR a example of the motors you are buying too. Many many shades are loud as hell. If you are planning any automation.. or even simply closing/opening them while people are sleeping.. you'll want to be ok with the sound prior to choosing a motor.

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Response by nycpartime
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

i have put motorized hunter douglas shades in a house outside of nyc. i did not pre wire. if you go onto hunter douglas site you can see that there are motorized shades that use wireless remotes. mine work great and i have had them for 3 years. the only issue is having to replace batteries. easy thing to do as long as you keep a bunch of batteries on hand. no hard wiring for my house and they are great. i used solar shades for my living room and black out shades for my bedroom. good luck

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Response by Primer05
almost 15 years ago
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Staring a project in a couple of days in which the designer brought in Manhattan Shade and Glass. I will post once they are installed should be in about two weeks

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Response by rvargas
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 152
Member since: Nov 2005

Somfy, Mechoshade, Lutron and Silent Gliss are generally considered the highest quality manufacturers.

Lutron Sivoia QED is probably the quietest motor line out there. It's also very expensive. Somfy has the widest range of motors. The Somfy Sonesse line is very quiet.

We just finished a fully automated 12-zone shading install in Manhattan. Markup for motorized shades is very high as you have all noticed.

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Response by mike10005
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2010

My quote was 18k for double shades (15% and light-blocking) for 3 windows in bedroom and single shade (15%) for 3 windows in living room plus 2 pico remotes and two wall remote (one in bedroom and one in living room). They are all Sivoia QED with Lutron metal valance for every shade. 4 of the windows are about 90"w and 76"h. 2 of bigger windows are 136" w and 76" h (one in bedroom and one in living room). Hope this helps.

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Response by mike10005
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2010

Forgot to mention that I also got Somfy (electronic) + Hunter Douglas (fabric) for the same spec. Somfy was about 13k. I went with Lutron at the end because Lutron installation is cleaner. Somfy motor requires 120v hardwired which doesn't look clean vs Lutron low voltage solution.

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Response by Tom_Vatury
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2010

Hello everyone my name is Tom, I want to offer my help as a window treatment dealer in Manhattan if you have any questions about Hunter Douglas, Somfy, Lutron shades spec or installation etc. I will be happy to help.

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Response by Primer05
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 2103
Member since: Jul 2009

Tom,

Are you at Horizon? You have mentioned Nina a couple of times and I just finished a project with her at "The Sheffield" and then I hired Horizon for a project at Trump and they mentioned a Tom

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Response by happyrenter
almost 15 years ago
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Can I ask--are you really determined to have motorized shades? They are a big headache and, IMHO, kind of tacky. They are the sort of thing that you find cool for five minutes, then tolerate, and eventually find really annoying when they break down and have to be repaired or replaced. It's sort of like the built-in speaker system that was put in my apartment in the 80s--and that I just ripped out.

Since the cost is far from minimal, be absolutely sure you want these things.

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Response by ssskit
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 69
Member since: Dec 2006

I have motorized shades in my apartment and I find them extremely convenient. With a total of 12 shades, i'd never want to operate them manually. If they weren't motorized, I bet I wouldn't open/close them as often as I do because it would be a pain in the ass. Not to mention, automated shades don't have the unsightly strings hanging down. I've had them for three years so far without any issues.

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Response by alanhart
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

Do youse guys at least have them hooked up to the worldwide internet so they open and close with the sun's movement around the earth?

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Response by happyrenter
almost 15 years ago
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"If they weren't motorized, I bet I wouldn't open/close them as often as I do because it would be a pain in the ass."

Interesting point. Doesn't this beg the question: do you really need to open and close all your shades all the time?

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Response by mike10005
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2010

I think it's worth the investment. I have unobstructed city and river view. It's worth the cost to invest an automatic shade that would roll down all shades during the day to protect furniture and rugs--and roll all up during the night when I come home.

If my apt is looking at another building across the street, I wouldn't spend that much on electronic shades.

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Response by ssskit
almost 15 years ago
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@happyrenter: I like to have the shades open at night for the view then closed in the morning to soften the sunlight (I face East). I put the blackouts down when I need extra privacy or want to sleep in. If they weren't motorized, I'd just leave the sheers down most of the time and call it a day. I was almost talked out of them by a self-serving vendor that didn't carry motorized shades. I'm glad I didn't listen. They're awesome.

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Response by 10025
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2007

I have a Control 4 system which allows me to operate shades, air, lights, audio and video through touch panel, TV navigation and hardwired. It's an investment but worth every bit of it for the sheer convenience. Don't forget to compare density of shades and quietness. I have Lutron and they're practically silent when operated.

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Response by RE2009
over 14 years ago
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10025... that is ssssssooooo cool!
it does sound like an investment.

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Response by cccharley
over 14 years ago
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you can get a professional to measure and then order your shades on the internet. Then negotiate a price with the shade guy who measured to install the shades. I did this and saved myself half the money at least.

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Response by Calif_NYC
over 14 years ago
Posts: 27
Member since: Apr 2008

I recently had a motorized window shade (just 1) installed in our living room. We have double height ceilings, so it's a HUGE window (approximate 10 feet wide by 14 feet high--yes thats feet, not inches). It's a motorized sunshade (like they use at Starbuck's). It's a bit industrial looking, but that's what we wanted. All in, it was $3000 and it works great! We used Horizon Window Treatments and they were pretty fast and honorable.

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Response by anonymous123123
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2010

i live in a corner unit so more than half my walls are windows. if they cost $1000 each then theres no way i can afford motorized shades, was hoping to spend < $5K lol

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Response by cbreeze
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2010

I am doing some remodeling and ultimately would want motorized shades so I'd like to know how one prewires the room for these shades?

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Response by Primer05
over 14 years ago
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Usually we install outlets for the shades, they would be high on the wall

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Response by movinup1
over 14 years ago
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These guys were professional, neat, timely and very reasonable. Terry brought samples and explained the different types of fabrics. he provided wall switch which is put at the front entrance and controls all the rooms right there. then each room as a remote that operates several shades together or individually
Terry Talentino
Automated Shading
Cell: 917-721-7658
Office: 212-920-9602
Fax: 973-680-0196

Email: terry@automatedshading.com

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Response by Matsui
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2011

Anyone had shades installed recently? Any good recommendations for motorized shade dealers both lutron and somfy?

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Response by sveldy
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

Lutron - Rosenberg Windows.
http://www.rosenbergwindows.com/

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Response by becky244
about 13 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2012

the 2 biggest in new york are vogue window fashion & the shade company, i think (heard about them the most)

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Response by UESprospect
over 11 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2011

Thinking about these shades for the bedrooms. Anyone have recent experience getting these motorized shades? Any recommendations? Have prices gone down for these?

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Response by flarf
over 11 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2011

I looked last year and prices were still rich. Ended up doing it myself with parts from rollertrol.com

Cost was right about $1k for three shades. The motors are not silent, but I wouldn't call them loud either... they're on par with a copy machine. The noise level is somewhat proportional to the size of the shade; the motor on the ~5x10ft shade is certainly louder than the one on the ~2x7ft shade, even though they're the same components.

Not an option for most, but if you have good DIY skills and pay attention to detail, they're hardly impossible.

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Response by Primer05
over 11 years ago
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Uesprispect,
We have a lot of experience install the those shades. Clients are very happy with them. They are not cheap

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Response by desipc
about 11 years ago
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Member since: May 2014

Use Lutron wireless shades. Runs about 300-700 a window and you can install yourself

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