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Sorry, you are poor, you don't matter

Started by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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In Manhattan Real Estate, Wealth and Power Are Relative http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/opinion/in-manhattan-real-estate-wealth-and-power-are-relatives.html By MICHAEL GROSS Published: May 6, 2013 AT 10 p.m. Friday, my wife, my dog and I will be forced to evacuate our home because the boom of a construction crane atop a luxury condominium tower going up next door might possibly destroy our... [more]
Response by Boss_Tweed
over 12 years ago
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If you read the article with some care you might come to the conclusion that Michael Gross ain't poor.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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You are right, he's not poor. It's a relative question, like when Obama lumps "millionaires and billionaires" ... there's a difference.

And then the bigger questions in the article.

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Response by Boss_Tweed
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Well, yes, those. Certainly.

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Response by realtime
over 12 years ago
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This is not about Michael Cross or the amount of daily/hourly compensation. This is about differential treatment by DOB of various construction companies and arbitrary following of the laws by DOB. It suggests that for whatever reason someone is making decisions without following the rules. There should have been Stop Work Order each time the rules are violated. If they were really violated as Michael Cross claims (and I have no way of knowing that) than something is wrong...

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Response by glamma
over 12 years ago
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The corruption at the DOB and the LPC has reached unpredented heights. The DOB is an absolute joke. If they were investigated, I think the findings would be endlessly appalling. But that will never happen in Bloomberg's New York.

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Response by Triple_Zero
over 12 years ago
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"a check for $1,397.81 finally arrived in late January — from Extell’s construction company, Lend Lease — it was for about a quarter of what we’d asked for"

They asked for $5,600 for a single week? A week in which they stayed with a friend and thus incurred only the espense of (presumably) a gift for that person. So Mr. Gross was basically asking them to cover what he would have earned if he'd been working from home, and it would have been easy for a scammer to falsify some records and claim a truly outrageous home-based income; the cmopany was right to be suspicious.

Mr. Gross makes this much money, and then claims tht people like himseldf "don't matter". How much less do his readers, most of whom will never see the kind of money he takes for granted, matter?

That being said, what Extell and its construction companies should be shelling out for is penalty money to be paid to the residents. When you move into an apartment, and one of the rules is that a disruption requires X days' notice, the tenants should be heavily compensated if that rule is violated. The co-op board should sue Extell and the DOB for playing in cahoots with them.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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>They asked for $5,600 for a single week?

000, you are completely missing the point.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 12 years ago
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why don't you educate all of us?

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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You give yourself too much credit C0C0.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 12 years ago
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oh No.

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Response by buca
over 12 years ago
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Oh the trials and tribulations of the NYC uber-wealthy. Never once in his attention seeking woe is me letter has he mentioned the thousands of people who lost EVERYTHING they owned due to this horrific storm. People went for days...weeks then months without basic human necessities. Many more were inconvenienced...some to a great extent others having their electric or gas service suspended. But because this rarefied group of whiners have to face the indignity of having to move down the street to a hotel of their choice....for 22 hours...oh the shame of it all!!
Seriously Mr Gross, an appropriate name I might add, get yourself a fucking life and consider yourself extremely lucky to have been spared the catastrophe that was endured my hundreds of families. Might I suggest you don your Land's End survival gear and head out to the worse hit areas and offer a helping hand by supporting those who lost their entire lives worth of possessions and their entire life savings. What you make in one short and off year would allow at least 10 families, many of them firefighters and others who work for the city providing you all the comfort of a home in the ultra luxury coop your currently reside in.
Do something worthwhile with your time and money and stop whining and bitching....it is so unbecoming of you at this time of great sacrifice and need of your fellow Nyers.
Unbelievable the lengths the super rich will go to in making us believe they are just like us working souls who fight for all we have. Shame on you.

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Response by Triple_Zero
over 12 years ago
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Greensdale, then what is the point? As egregious as it is that people can be forced from their homes like this, with compensation at the whim of construction companies, what do you expect the person reviewing Mr. Gross' request to think when he sees that huge number on the bottom line? The average schlep living in an apartment, as Buca has described, didn't get reimbursed by anyone for anything.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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When the guys like Gross get pushed around, it's clearer to those who have less than Gross that they are even less relevant, recognized, or respected.

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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> what do you expect the person reviewing Mr. Gross' request to think when he sees that huge number on the bottom line?

as Gross pointed out in his article by citing several of his neighbors. The article could have left out the dollar amount of his request, his work at home occupation, and several other silly personal elements, and the point of the article would still be the same.

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Response by caonima
over 12 years ago
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"I’m not looking for sympathy. I live near Central Park in a landmark 1909 co-op"

what da hell?

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Response by inonada
over 12 years ago
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Since some may have missed it, what is the home-based job he was forced to take a hiatus from? Writing books that obsess about RE of the wealthy. Maybe he owes Extell royalties from his next book.

http://mgross.com/about/

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Response by West34
over 12 years ago
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How ironic. Will he switch from idolizing to demonizing now that the objects of his obsession are pissing on him?

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Response by Triple_Zero
over 12 years ago
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Nada, that's priceless. He oh-so-graciously lets people "download a high resolution copy of Lindsay McCrum’s photograph of Michael Gross" and informatively mentions that it's 1.62 MB (so that we peons on dialup will be warned).

His rival, Steven Gaines, also writes about this field, and Gaines' titles are much more hilarious: "Philistines at the Hedgerow: Passion and Property in the Hamptons":

http://www.amazon.com/Philistines-Hedgerow-Passion-Property-Hamptons/dp/B000EUKRBI/

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Response by greensdale
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>Nada, that's priceless. He oh-so-graciously lets people "download a high resolution copy of Lindsay McCrum’s photograph of Michael Gross" and informatively mentions that it's 1.62 MB (so that we peons on dialup will be warned).

He does look funny in that pose, but that's what you get out of all this? That because he lists the file size that he's mocking people (who??) with dial-up?

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Response by greensdale
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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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Meanwhile, tax breaks at one57

http://www.nydailynews.com/1.1375297#bmb=1
NY lawmakers mandate massive tax breaks for millionaires’ Manhattan apartments

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