Two Northside Piers
Started by shezy121
about 17 years ago
Posts: 11
Member since: Jul 2008
Discussion about Two Northside Piers at 2 Northside Piers in Williamsburg
All of the above.
No major issues with my walk through, just some minor scratches especially in the W/D closet of all places. I suggest everyone open the kitchen floor cabinets which house any piping, get low and check all the in way in the back. The back of my oven cabinet looks like someone failed custom cutting 10 times before doing it correctly. The thermostats, floor, tiles, tub, and marble are perfect as I went over every inch so I am incredibly pleased. Bike storage will be ready in about a week I was told. Gym has weights in it and nice views, so no complaints there I may not need a gym membership after all.
For anyone that has closed at NSP2, did you buy flood insurance?
No. I'm on the 4th floor and will be long gone before the polar ice caps melt and the East River floods my apartment.
My understanding is that flood is also for hurricane type water/wind damage. Also, I think there is some issue that mold in a flooded basement area could apread to higher floors and damage the interior walls of units.
No did not buy flood insurance either...but did get more interior insurance than I thought was necessary.
Sorry Rembrandt about your loan experience...things were very smooth with TBI. The advantage of goign with an affiliate that knows the project. And the rate was pretty competitive so all in all it was a good experience.
Has anyone got their punch list items taken care of yet? And what did everyone end up doing for their window treatments?
EDGEvsNSP2,
I looked into purchasing blinds (Hunter Douglas Luminette) and got quotes from Costco, Horizon Shades, Janovic in LIC, Metroplitan Window Fashion and Steve's Shades. I have listed all their quotes below. The cost of the window treatments depends on the size of the windows. Hunter Douglas is offering a $100 rebate until December 15. If anyone would be interested in group bargaining for a larger discount, email me at nspbuyer at yahoo dot com.
Horizon-no motorization
109 x 115 $ 2490
100 x 115 $ 2490
Cost includes install but not tax
Janovic
54X108 (NOTE DIFFERENT WINDOW SIZING) $579/window
Installation: $42.00 per window
Sub-charge for motorization: $200 per window
Remote $ 50.00 each
Wall switch 65.00 each
Steve's Blinds
Luminete w/o motorization
109 x 115 $ 1,562.35
100 x 115 $ 1,562.35
No tax but $75 shpping and installation costs
Metropolitan Window Fashion:
Luminette without/with Powerise
109 x 115 $2,726.00 $3,121.00
100 x 115 2,482.00 2,877.00
Installation 133.00 173.00 42 for remote
TOTAL $5,341.006,213.00 tax tax
Some of you may have seen this but the Social Committee at 1NSP is hosting its second annual holiday party (NSP residents only) on December 5th from 4-7pm on the 2nd floor of 1 NSP. I understand that the invite extends to 2NSP residents too and that there is a sign up sheet at 2NSP.
re: curtains/blinds. i priced around for window treatments. horizon seemed to be negotiable on blinds as well as some others minus the shade store. curtain estimates ranged from around 3-5k from 4 different companies. the best and cheapest route for curtains is to have someone make them for you. hartsdale fabrics in westchester will make panels for 100-125 each depending on the style. it's just hemming the fabric and not a big deal- a seamstress can even do it for you. of course you need to buy your own fabric, however, you can be more creative and have add'l options this way. i am going to check out zarin fabrics on grand street this week as well- prices seem to be competitive for city.
re the floors at nsp2 and soundproofing: they are a joke. i dropped by keys on the floor and it left dents. i did not expect such crappy quality from toll brothers. this is what they put into their products? they should be ashamed. i am going to have to replace the floors with higher quality which should not be the case for a brand new apt from a reputable builder. i can also hear my neighbors next door when they talk and watch tv- i didn't expect that either.
Just closed on our place and moving in Friday. Will be fun to get to meet everyone.
If you haven't done so already, check out Building Link - the Ning for our building: http://www.2northsidepiersresidents.com/V2/Global/Login/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fV2%2fTenant%2fHome%2fDefault.aspx
You can reserve space and do service requests through it.
I feel your pain ns2_buyer on the floors - frankly many new builds in the past 10 years seem to have the same crappy floors with the same issue. They don't make them like they used to.
Thanks for the building link...how do you get log in credentials?
njbuyer, you need to get in touch with Penmark. Call Erik. His sig line is below.
Eric Powazka | Penmark Management, LLC | Assistant Property Manager
770 Lexington Avenue | New York, New York 10065
Epowazka@penmarkhalstead.com | t 646.485.6167 | f 646.472.7637
"i can also hear my neighbors next door when they talk and watch tv-"
That's pretty bad, and just shows cost cutting on something. Developers love to talk about quality but then seem to cut costs on important items. I did a sound test at the Edge with a friend and could easily hear him talking in the adjacent apartment, which is not good.
Thanks Ilovebrooklyn. Have talked with Erik on other matters....I'll reach out to him. Looks like a great site thanks for sharing it.
Is the sales office required to submit all offers that they receive? I submitted a very strong offer for a low floor 1 bdrm unit and was told that they can't even submit it cause it was too low. It was approx. 6% off list price. They didn't even a counter? I really don't understand their sales strategy..
Cranberry- yes, they are reuired to submit all offers to the sponsor. Their sales strategy is to get you bidding against yourself. I would walk away and come back later when they are more desperate.
Cranberry did you use an agent? I would demand they officially submit and counter....6% off is a strong offer...surprising....
Cranberry my initial offer was also not countered. My first offer was low ball, so I added an additional $5k. The offer was then submitted and countered by the sponsor. I replied that I was not willing to go higher than my second offer, and they accepted it.
The average list price discount so for on the 18 closed units on ACRIS is around 5%. A few days ago my unit was appraised 14% higher than the net price I paid, so I'm pumped to move in next week!
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No, I didn't use an agent. I've been dealing directly with their sales office. I've purchased several condos before in NY and have never dealt such lame tactics. How do you force someone to submit an offer?
This question isn't strictly NSP related so apologies - I am scheduled to move in in Jan though - but does anyone have any experience in breaking a lease? My landlord - which is a big Manhattan property manager - has two months' deposit on me but I'm thinking about bailing three months before the end and notifying them, so it's not like there's any downside for them.
antipodope It's a tricky situation. I had the same thing two yeas ago when I went into contract in that I couldn't control when the surprise notification to close would arrive. The strategy I used was to talk with the landlord, it turned about 6 months before my closing date. I asked the landlord to release me from my lease provided I gave them two months notice. My landlord, by surprise, was agreeable. I ended up only having to pay one extra month of rent, which is a lot better than them suing me, and winning, to collect all the rent that was due on the full lease period. I'm not sure if that will help, but if it's a big property manager, then I'd wager this situation has come up frequently, if you've been a good tenant, I would assume they will deal with the situation in good faith. Best of luck!
Does anyone know the current percent sold?
I have just been notified that Bank of America is now doing conventional and FHA financing for floors 2-14 at 2 NSP. I had been working with Sunny Hong of BOA through my quest for a Williamsburg condo and asked him to keep me updated on BOA's standing with 2NSP. They just recently got approval for financing floors 2-14. This means that floors 2-14 are at least 51% sold. He said that they are still awaiting approval for floors 15 and up.
If any one is interested contact Sunny at sunny.hong@bankofamerica.com for more information. Unfortunately I have already set up financing with TBI with a lock etc. So, I won't be using BOA. But I highly recommend Sunny. He's extremely helpful and communicates rapidly. He has been highly recommended by others on SE.
Actually, I'm not sure if only floor 2-14 is 51% sold or if the whole building is 51% sold. They might be awaiting approval for floors 15 and up because the CO is still pending. But if they are doing conventionals then 51% sold is required.
Hi everyone. I am currently making an offer for a 1-bedroom at 2NSP and it's around $800psf. Is that a reasonable price for fl 18-20? Also I was told that I will have to pay all my closing costs, how do I negotiate that? I'm new to this home buying business and would really love some help.
We had an offer for 1BR on 17th floor right at 800/sq ft, which included price discount and sponsor paying closing costs. (It was accepted but unfortunately didn't go through during contract negotiations...long story.) So I think that would be reasonable. But I'm not sure they would add closing costs on top of that. You can just say that you'll accept that last price if they pay closing costs on top of it and see what happens. If they reject that then that's it.
Thanks LookPied. all the info on this forum has been really helpful.
We had our walk through yesterday. Had the same experience as most.
Just to address some issues brought up in the past:
The "Fresh Direct" refrigerators seem ample enough. They have three commercial type refrigerators and one freezer. Although not walk-in sized, there's ample room in the area to place more if needed in the future.
Kitchen hot water and bath hot water are on separate "circuits". It took forever to get hot water in the kitchen but got it very rapidly in the bath.
Cell phone reception in the lobby was spotty, but pretty good on the 14th floor south facing. Maybe it was an exceptionally good cell phone day.
Awesome view from the resident's lounge. I can see sending the kids down there to play pool and watch TV. I can see myself spending time down there as well.
Pool is ready but not open yet. They need a lifeguard at all times when it's open. So it won't be 24 hours. The whirlpool and sauna are in the pool area so they won't be open 24 hours either, only when the pool is open. There is the option to use 1NSP's sauna if the one in 2NSP is closed.
They've had 50 closings so far.
The only thing I would add on Closing Costs is that they, and most sponsors, are willing to pay state and city transfer taxes (non mortgage related) and Sponsor Attorney fee if negotiated. This equates to approx $8K or so of closing costs or more depending on price point.
Hey LookPied, did you end up going with TBI for title insurance as well?
We were advised not to go with the TBI-affiliated title insurance because there might be a conflict of interest if any title issues should appear in the future. It may not be in your best interest to have a developer-affiliated title company represent you. In any case, if you decide to go for another title company, you can have them match the TBI company fees.
Hello, everyone! As a few of you know, I'm already a resident and after a happy past month or so, have begun thinking about 2NSP as a speculative investment of sorts for my daughter.
She's goes to Columbia currently and I've started thinking about buying a unit in this building for her both to live in and as an investment, so I'm wondering what the rest of you think about which floors might be a good idea for long-term growth and maturation?
I of course live on the seventh floor and don't want to get into her way TOO much, so there's that to consider, but it'd be good to have her living in the same building, and I want to be sure that it turns out to be a good long-term advantage, both monetarily and housing-wise.
So...what floors lend themselves the most to this?
Hi all... I have a question on Hazard insurance. It is a requirement of my mortgage lender.
They have asked for "80% of the replacement cost of insurable improvements".
Does this mean that (for example) if the condo was $1m, I need to take out 800k of hazard insurance? When I called for a quote, the agent wasn't able to advice what I need to take out.
Any insurance experts out there? :)
Can't wait to close and meet you all!
7thfloorsylvester: I think the conventional wisdom is that from a speculative perspective, the higher the floor, the easier to sell in a good market. I mean, isn't the main idea of living in a high-rise is to live in high floor with a kickass view? Granted you pay a premium for that buying in but you can also command a premium for that very reason selling out which hopefully is amplified in a hot market.
antipodope:
As Ilovebrooklyn said our lawyer recommended not going with Toll Brother's affiliated Westminster Title. We went with our lawyer recommended Commonwealth title.
WBgal:
I'm in the same predicament. I'd contact your mortgage processor and ask exactly what is required insurance wise. I'm emailing TBI right now.
Hi all, I have a question about closing cost. I was told it's 3% of the purchase price (if no mortgage), is that a reasonable amount? Shouldn't the seller pay NYC & NYS transfer taxes? Thanks!
thirteenstroke- I think you should try and negotiate it. While shopping for mortgages we found out that everywhere else ( of course things in NY are a bit different) it is actually pretty common for the seller to pay for transfer taxes. We negotiated our transfer taxes and they agreed to it. That seemed to be the only thing they were willing to pay for. I guess though it is all relative to the amount of discount they are giving you on the purchase price... Our closing costs with a mortgage are at about 4.5%. I hope this helps.
thirteenstroke - this is a good site re: closing costs. Make sure you look at the costs for the purchaser when purchasing directly from the sponsor. Don't be worried if you're confused...the guy at the bank for my mortgage couldn't even figure this out...
http://www.corcoran.com/guides/index.aspx?page=ClosingCosts
7thfloorsylvester: As far as the view, one thing to consider in this particular building is Tower 3. If you're West facing and particularly on the A line, there is a lower part of Tower 3 building (immediately to the south of the pier) that will partially obstruct the Western view of the Manhattan skyline. It appears that from 8th floor on, you will be free and clear (although your Southern view will be blocked by the Tower 3 no matter how high you go. Prices seem to reflect that. I personally live on the 6th floor and didn't care that much, but it's a consideration if view matters.
Hi all, I am possibly interested in the K line, 3 bedroom apartments, and am tentatively going to start the negotiation process. Wondering if anyone has any idea what the going 'discount' on the listed price, or actual selling prices might be at this point? We haven't even started throwing numbers out yet but they already are playing hard to get. Thanks everyone, lots of useful info here.
Thanks so much! they are so firm with the negotiations while other people are telling me that the price is absurd. too bad that I actually like the apts.
There is a huge supply of condos on the market in W-Burg. Plus, how is that tax abatement thing gonna work out in the 15 years? Is buying there a smart thing?
Jib:
They definitely have firmed up on prices and they are tough negotiators. They may be more flexible on the larger pricier apartments. At that price point you can be tough, walk away, and come back later if you want! They aren't exactly flying off the shelf.
BonacStyle:
You're concerns are valid and have been debated. For us, it was the neighborhood, the view, and the 25 year abatement. We couldn't find this combo anywhere else. We are not counting on it as being an investment as there are so many uncertainties. The purchase will enrich our quality of life but not endanger us financially. If you aren't comfortable buying here, I wouldn't.
It will be interesting to see if Toll stays firm on prices in the next few months. They have shown that they adjust to market conditions. I have the impression that sales slowed at the big projects in Wmburg in the latter part of the year, judging by the numbers from edge and 80 met (and zero sales at 58 met). I know 2nsp was doing well for the first half of the year, but not sure if they also didn't sell much since the summer.
BonacStyle and LookPied:
Same rationale for me - it's a premium building in terms of the other stock in the market in that area, it has great views, depending on where you decide on, and I think there will be strong rental demand as a backstop given all the fundamental attributes.
To anyone that's moved in already, do you elect to go with TimeWaner or Verizon? It seems Verizon has the better deal for just internet but I'm already with TWC.
I initially was interested in NSP cause I didn't think I could afford the unit I liked over at The Edge, but NSP was pretty firm on prices. I'm now in talks over at The Edge and their price per sqft is actually lower than NSP for a larger unit and better finishes.
What also annoyed me with NSP sales reps, was when I asked them about the discounts others received and they denied it, telling me that public records probably recorded it wrong. Why the games??
@Cranberry. Agree, NSP people are not very flexible in negotiating, especially for low priced apartments, but still they are selling better than others in the area and prices are resonable for new construction with 25yr abatment. I was interested in The Egde but the building's lack of sale is impressive. It reminds me of an hotel during a off-season period.
martintop - percentage wise NSP sounds better because they're less units in that bldg, but in terms of actual sold units, they're more buyers at the Edge..almost twice as many.
cranberry- the number of unit at NSP and Edge is comparable.
NSP1 and NSP2 are approx 440 units (220 each). Tower 1 is basically fully sold and occupied,Tower 2 is 42% sold (20% occupied,the rest in contract). These percentage refers to the whole development.
The Edge buildings are about 500 units,31% sold/in contract(not sure if only floor 2-9 or the whole building). Less than 20% occupied. There is a big difference in who's selling faster and in my opinion the quality of the buildings is similar, just wrong market strategy at Edge. They tried to present everything fancy and glamour but I don't think it's the proper moment and location.
Hey are TBI's rates comparable to mortgage brokers or banks rates? Have you guys that have closed so far all gone with TBI? Are there any pro's and con's I should be aware of? thanks
TBI saved my butt when my mortgage broker dropped the ball. I was surprised when the rate was LOWER than my broker's. Since they are part of Toll and are a mortgage company (as opposed to a broker), they were able to process everything really fast. I wish I would have just stuck with them from the beginning.
martintop, I'd say you need to compare apples to apples, though.
NSP1 has not only been open for much longer than both Edge and NSP2 but also does not match the level of quality of either one of those developments. So, rather than comparing NSP1 + NSP2 to Edge I would just compare Edge and NSP2, and right now we're looking at about 150 units sold (closed or in contract) at the Edge and about 90 units sold at NSP2.
But I agree with you that NSP2 and the Edge are fairly similar developments in many aspects. (Including the pricing, btw. The Edge may have higher asking prices, but they are willing to negotiate more than NSP2.) In the end, it will come down to individual preferences and the marketing strategy will certainly be a factor, too. If I needed to make a decision between those two, I'd really try to look past how much I like their sales staff or their advertising, though. (In my experience, the sales office at Edge is much more approachable and honest; on the other hand, I find NSPs advertising much less obnoxious.)
I'm cuurious about the wind and cold weather on the waterfront – with these winds and cold weather, how is the walk to the subway?
jib...we placed a bid on the k-line and can share our experience off-line
Shahvi23- Thanks, I would really appreciate it. Please email me at Vwtdi8@gmail.com if possible. Look forward to hearing from you.
We are moving into the building soon. Can anyone recomend a good painter?
joseesq - it is cold by the water but as you walk to the subway you are heading away from the water and you walk up N6th it's only 4 blocks.....
Thanks, njbuyer!
Joseesq - this was also a concern of mine before I purchase. Just walked it this morning for the first time and was maybe a bit windier than Manhattan.
Thanks antipodope!
Hey all, how was the weather around Wburg waterfront yesterday, and how is your experience with the winds so far? Did they clean the roads? was it difficult to walk to the train?
FutureBuyerNSP2 Kent Ave was pretty bad on Monday, there was a Volkswagen Beetle left in the middle of North 6th and Kent. Bedford Ave near the L stop had buses and cars stuck all day. Aside from the roads basically unplowed till Tuesday the sidewalks were shoveled for most of North 6th so no issues walking; a lot of stores and businesses along N6. The wind is sometimes brutal at night, but it's only the final block past Kent Ave so I can tolerate it. I actually don't mind taking the L either it runs frequently and I like that I can transfer from any train to it. I'm always standing on the train but it's a 6 minute ride from Union sq to Bedford.
Thank you re_guru. This information is very helpful, specially because we are moving to Northside piers 2 in couple of weeks, and it is our first time living in Brooklyn.
Best wishes for a great new year.
Hi FutureBuyerNSP2. I did the walk recently and it seemed fine, albeit I was a few days after the blizzard. I'm also moving in a week or so - see you around!
The NSP2 pool will be operating from Saturday. Very exciting news.
All of BK was a mess after the blizzard, but I thought it was much easier getting around Wburg than it was when I was in other parts of BK on Tues./Weds. There are pros and cons living by the waterfront, but I think waterfront property will always be prime.
Brooklyn Waterfront is always going to be prime for a certain segment of the market, not necessarily prime for everyone. Considering the rezoning of Brooklyn, wherein high towers are allowed on the waterfront, if that actually occurs outside of NSP and EDGE, that's going to appeal to certain people, but it's going to limit the potential buyers for resale to a certain sliver of the market. I do agree, if you're going to go with one of the towers, pick a higher floor. Otherwise, you'll end up competing with better priced interior condos that, while not on the water, have more character then the lower floors of a no-view condo with a very high mark-up.
And, for the record, it's freaking windy here on the water - summer, winter, fall and spring, blizzard or sun. It will always be. If someone is choosing their real estate investment purchases based on the wind...god (or allah or buddha, or freyja) help them. At least there aren't garbage trucks dumping god knows what at 1AM like there used to be on Kent.
Did anybody hear about a discount of 15% on units similar to NSP1 sale in 2009?I don't see any sale on ACRIS to confrim...
@shahvi23 care to share your offer experience on the K line here?
sloperaly send me your email and we can talk about it off-line
We closed, and we are very happy. The building and staff are great. It's everything we wanted. But it's the neighborhood that we are loving more and more. We explored more restaurants: Osteria Il Paiolo, Santorini Grill, Fornino, and great hamachi kama at Samurai. Tops Market looks better with lots of high end stuff. (I don't think we need any other grocery store!) Great bagels from Bagelsmith (and a dozen to go to take back to Atlanta). 2 wine stores within 2 blocks. Even the Duane Reade was much used and appreciated. We took our first run in Williamsburg from NSP over the Williamsburg bridge and back (4 miles?) in sub 30 degree windy weather (Loved it!).
Absolutely no regrets.
@shahvi23 its my sig at gmail, thanks!
Just signed the contract! looking forward to moving in and meeting everyone!
The NSP website states NSP1 is SOLD OUT.
(Congrats thirteenstroke.)
Anyone know why all the listings on streeteasy for NSP2 have disappeared?
Just started the process looking for a condo in williamsburg. Any recommendations on experienced real estate agents for NSP2? Is it better to walk into the NSP2 sales office without agent?
How come there are no recorded closings for 2NSP, when so many have you have closed and moved in? Is there another address of record for the building?
164 Kent Ave..they list and delist listings to make it appear the units are not on the market for two years.As far as closings the rate /sq is apporx $757 on the actual closing sales price.There is not much data recorded as of yet but of what is recorded that is the rate.
It's odd that there is nothing on Streeteasy, when the first closing occurred 2 months ago, no?
Williamsburg11211 - Have you had any success finding a painter? We're due to close late this month and will also be looking for a painter. Let me know if you have any recommendations. Thanks.
Just started looking to buy at 2 NSP. I was wondering if most people used agents - anyone you would recommend? Also, what are your experiences negotiating closing costs to be covered by the seller?
maly streeteasy probably doesn't recognize the ACRIS filing address which is 2 Northside Piers
to see the data, go to http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/Coverpage.dll/index
search by party name..
enter in the business name: KENT AVENUE PROPERTY 2 LLC
Select Document Class: Deeds and other conveyances
58 closings recorded so far from the 2nd floor to the 14th floor with an average price of $573k.
mid $600/sqft till the 10th floor, then its around $700/sqft. And obviously it varies per line... I'm sure once the 14th floor and up hit ACRIS it'll be in the mid $700/sqft. Looks like a few people also obtained full closing cost credits.
nspent88 you don't need an agent... people have mentioned around 10% discounts last summer, and 5% discounts more recently. Check out the closing data and you'll know what others paid to make a fair offer. Closing costs will be about 5% or so of the purchase price. They were willing to cover all my closing costs, however I paid closer to list price as a result.
nspent88 - we didn't use an agent, and don't think it is neccessary. NSP are quite firm with price and it depends on the floor plan. They used to offer 10% plus some closing, but I doubt it's still the case now.
current discount is around 5%.
re_guru I get no records found when I try your search - any idea what I am doing wrong? Thx.
njbuyer, follow this:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/jump/acris.shtml
-Search property records
-Search by parcel identifier
Select Borough/County: Brooklyn/Kings Enter Block: 2340 Enter lot: 0000 (to see all the records)*
You can select date range, and select document class.
*once you put all 0000 you don't have control over the rest of the choices, so just delete one 0, change your options and then put the 0000 back.
FB, thanks for the 0000 trick! I spend half my time in there but never knew.
Thank you!!!
Is there anyone who has tried negotiating for the 2 bedroom apts recently and would like to share their experience? I'm interested in the A and H line. Its been very hard coming up with a number that we think they would accept and not feel like we're going to lose money on the place. I still can't believe that the asking prices are so high, especially on the higher floors. Looking at the ACRIS is somewhat helpful but its hard to figure out how much people actually offered since the prices on ACRIS include transfer taxes and other seller concessions in the purchase price. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hey has anyone used or researched custom closet builders like California closets? I got all that info on the blinds and it was very helpful!
Try anthonys closets, they were by far the cheapest i found, very reliable and quick-- quality is basically comparable between the different installers.
The "A "Line based on comps from 1NSP and 2NSP should be $735-$750 /sq
"A" line is a pretty money line, good use of space, a lot of space, nice views that are pretty much fixed for life; we had negotiations for one of the lower A lines fall apart with the sponsor asking $995k with an offer to pay city and state transfer taxes; most of the recorded sales that posted in the first few months likely had concessions of closing costs being covered by sponsor.
Above the 8th floor, there was a pretty significant jump because of the outdoor space and the fact that it clears 3NSP and the building to the South. I don't think you'll get much below $800/foot here in the near future.
If the current discount is at 5% right now, as martintop suggested, that would make a high-floor A line around $900/sqft or more. Are people really paying that much? It boggles the mind.
Anyone close on a studio at 2NSP? Any noise issues?
I'm specifically looking at the 'D' line.
I am closing sometime in February, did anyone look at the roof top units? How about storage units?
I bought an A line unit and am around $900, also they tell me they are now 44% sold.
BuyeratNSP2: What floor are you on?
LIC_Queens:
We closed on the 1BR C line right next to the D studio which we "toured" as the vacant apartment next to us was unlocked. We liked it...great view, large bath, and a nice alcove.
We entered the D unit as the smoke detector low battery alarm was going off incessantly which was very loud in our BR next door. We could also hear the A unit's alarm going off down the hall. So noise does travel. We did do a noise check prior to making an offer and found that voices were pretty muffled as I yelled in one unit while my wife listened in the other. I'm hoping the smoke detector alarm is at an extreme penetrating frequency and that other neighbor noises won't be too bad. There is only one other resident on our floor. So I still can't comment on day to day noise. At times we could slightly feel the sub-woofer in the apartment below us(or at least what we think is a subwoofer). Some noise also seems to be able to travel through the ventilation system? but that's minimal. I would do a sound test as we did to see if you'll be comfortable with next door noise transmission. Or ask me later when we have more neighbors!
buyeratNSP2:
We toured the roof top on our final inspection and things looked finished (we don't own a cabana). Great views, but a little cold in mid-December.