12,000 Square Foot Apt. In Lincoln Towers offered for only $929,000

and the seller's claim that you can convert the apt. into 4 bedrooms is a LIE. If you look at the floor plan, the proposed 4th beroom does not have a window, which means it can never be a legal bedroom. Seriosuly, how stupid is this woman?

that is fricking hilarious.

now, if only tina fey would do one to sell her place.

screw the bedroom....12,000 square feet looking straight into the camera. what a dummy.

and don't forget the free Prius. With 12,000 square feet, you might be able to park the car in the apartment!

with 12,000 sq ft, you could open a new toyota dealership.

Great idea, stocking up on shoji screens to hide all the crap behind. Saddest part (though I had sound off so must've missed good stuff) was that rug sort of floating in middle of living room.

If the kitchen in that apt. is considered "updated," then I might need to update my definition of "updated." Serisouly, how the heck is that updated? The kitchen is 100% solid white formica! I have the same exact kitchen in my NJ house, and no way is that considered "updated."

Its 1,200 sf

I really like that carpet.

I have to say (aside from the hilarious 12,000 mistake) - she's not that much worse then most brokers I've seen!

Very cheesy. Seriously, the car trick? That place is going to rot on this market just like the others. Lincoln Towers in my mind ranks just above the projects.

the thing i don't understand is: didn't they watch the video before they posted it? haven't they shown it to some friends/family members?

"hey, look what we did!" it's not a subtle mistake---it jumps out at you?

could they think that it is 12,000 sq ft? could they think that others would believe that?

the crack about the 5th floor and watching your kids from the terrace seems like its from SNL.

The problem with the 12,000 square feet is that is is spread over 30 floors. So thats only 400 square feet per floor.

And did she just call this the best building in New York? Has she BEEN to New York?

And instead of offering a car and money, wouldn't she be better off offering nothing and lowering the price to $899,000?

And the name of the site: The Best Home in the World is so cheesy. Who thought of it? Is that the best she can think of?

and be careful on that swing thing with the glass of wine, I guess they edited the shot where she spilled it all on her shirt. Not to mention that she could have risked flying over the balcony railing and down to the sandbox where her kids are playing.

Since when does best = most like a project?

see class, this is exactly why you should not use You Tube as a marketing tool. If you do, you get a bunch of internet smart asses like alpine292 bashing your apartment.

LOL...good stuff

have they fixed the comment yet?

" If you do, you get a bunch of internet smart asses like alpine292 bashing your apartment."

Of course, if its alpine, he also told you that it had gone UP in value last month.

What struck me wasn't so much the exagerration of square footage -- I'm sure sometime somewhere a broker out her. It's the stretchiest use of "loft-like", a nonword that's usually reserved for apartments that have had a few walls yanked down but are still unloftily low-slung. This, however, appears to be the original layout, without even the kitchen opened up. Nuttin' Honey.

If this is a loft-like apartment, what the hell isn't? A closet?

It has a window so its a loft!

in my book, "loft like" is supposed to have high ceilings.

a rose by any other name....

WHAT A TERRIFIC VIRTURAL TOUR! I'm dying here. LMAO. How many times did she say California closet? We could use that video as a drinking game. The best apartment in the best building in the city? Try a little humility, a lower price, no car giveaway, and maybe you'll sell the stupid place. Oh yeah, proofread.

I think the best is still the asking price : $929,126. How the hell did they come up with the $126? Is it their yearly Streeteasy Insider subscription they are trying to write off????

This hopeless and totally ineffective video shows how bad things are - this is pathetic.

ok...come on, how about the flexible layout: can be a two, three or four bedroom depending on your needs and desires. why not 8br's...she forgot that the terrace could be turned into another 4. good rooms for kids...just jump straight down to the playground without bothering mom and dad.

Why do they want to move if they already live in the best of all possible worlds?

upgrading to flexible 16 bedroom, 400,000 sq ft one bedroom

Good one CC. The new apartment will fit two octomoms.

Has anyone emailed the seller to tell her of the faux pas?

why not send the entire string? i'm sure she'd like our constructive criticism.

California *STYLE* closet - even better. This will sell around 599,000 in two years. It is an awful building. I briefly sublet in the, yes, "project" and it is terrible. My rent, mid 90's? $500.

It is certainly not my cup of tea, but i feel for the women. I'm going to send an email tonight when i get home

To give you some perspective, apts like these were about 500k (and sold very quickly at those prices) in 1998.

the seller wants to re-locate to apt. 7C in the Trump building in Chicago, which she realized is the best home in the world after reading rufus'threads.

oh, and if abyone is interested, I have a 4,000 square foot house in NJ that I would like to dump. So according to the seller's standards, my house is 40,000 square feet and you can alter the floorplan to accomodate 23 bedrooms.

well i did my good deed for the day- i email them

That's nice of you RE2009. I think it reeked of desperation, chutzpah & stupidity.

what did you say?

did you give the seller a link to this thread? Please tell me you did.

You must post her response!!

If you give the seller a link to this thread, I would encourage her to log onto SE and post her response directly.

she says 12,000 sf but the website list it as 1,200 in 5 different places, I think given the amount of peroxide the "blonde" has absorbed over the years, we should forgive her. doesn't the NYTimes, the paper of record, have a corrections page, like everyday for all their "errors"?

my guess is that she was reading from a script on her monitor and accidentally hit 1 too many zeros. However, the 4 bedroom and the loft style crap have no business being marketing tools because they are flat out false.

the email to then

i recently sold an apartment so i know how challenging this market is
Just wanted to point out at the end of the video the woman states the apt is 12,000 square feet.
You may want to change it as it was picked up and discussed on the blogs
i wish you the best and good luck

thanks mike (i mean RE2009) wow, did curbed.com really call besthomeintheworld.com the best website in the world!!!? see link; http://curbed.com/archives/2009/04/21/annals_of_marketing_best_forsalebyowner_gambits_ever.php#comment-410192

oh my god, check out what true gotham says about besthomeintheworld.com http://www.truegotham.com/

Give the agent woman in the video at besthomeintheworld.com a break, you know what they say about agents. Those who can't do teach, those who can't teach, teach gym and those who can't teach gym become crack whores and those who can't become crack whores become real estate agents.

I thought she was the owner.

the woman in the video is the owner, not the realtor, as she is FSBO.

she's way to slick to be just a fizbo, she's a pro, she's probably just like most of the retired hoofers who married a dentist got bored and turned agent.

I wonder if she is even married. Maybe it is just the angle of the picture, but that bed in the master bedroom does not seem big enough to accomodate 2 adults.

good point 292, it looks like a queen, if your in the market for 293 I might be interested

what's 293?

tiffany, color me amused.

I thought 292 were the notches in your belt...

I think I'm gay for this crazy blonde, I can't stop watching that video with her saying 12,000 sf right to the camera!! please someone tell them to fix it, so I can sleep!!

i tried!! i sent an email! has anyone else?

I tried to call too, but there was no answer, I think I'm going to go to the open house on Sunday with a camera crew and make her reshoot the ending!!

tiffany, that is a GREAT idea !!!!! the crazy thing is we are TRYING to help and not getting anywhere. As i was sending the email i was thinking i wonder if this is a crazy internet scam and my identity will be stolen!!!
maybe we will all be on candid camera

I stalked the blonde today at the open house, I was right, that bitch is crazy... crazy like a fox, the open house was packed, according the owner they had 4 offers from the first five people who walked in the door, I was like a fly and the wall and buyers were in the living room standing in line making their pitch. It turned out the apartment was available next door too which would make it a 2000 sf 4 bedroom 3 bath with laundry, so they had some people making offers on both places!!!

Did that really happen tiffany, or are you joking?

or 20,0000 square foot, depending on the math

so if you buy both apartments, I think that should entitle you to 2 Toyota Priuses.

It's true but it was surreal, it was like an auction. Buyers were just talking in front of other buyers about their offers. it was like Green Acres Meets the Beverly Hill Billies. I thought Mr Haney was gonna walk in any minute and start selling chicken feed...

Staged.

I'm tempted to buy a bike and a big bag on candy for my open houses next week. Please don't tell me this biz has come to this!!!!!!!

so did the apt. sell? And how much were the offers for? Were they lowballs or were they close or above asking?

gaongaon has a good point. I would not be surprised if the entire bidding ordeal was staged. I don't see why there would be multiple offers on the apt. It needs work and it's not a firesale by any means.

I didn't hear anyone mention price, I think they all just assumed that it was the asking price. I asked the crazy blondes boyfriend or husband if it was sold and he was smiling like Jethro Bodine saying; we got some offers but no contracts. I think I'm gonna go back and finish beauty school...

but did anyone ask about where the 12,000 sq ft were?

the blonde (who I will now refer to as "Ellie May" since her man or boy toy reminds me of Jethro Bodine from the beverly hill billies) she acted dumb about the 12,000 sf comment, and after talking to her I don't think "acting dumb" role was a stretch for her

""loft like" is supposed to have high ceilings. "

No, thats called "high ceilings".

your not going to believe this? ellie may is back!!!! It looks like her and jethro got grannie and jed to fix their video (check out the new ending besthomeintheworld.com) (someone tell her that 1980 called and it wants it's hair cut back.)

if that's 12K sq ft, my penis spans west end avenue :)

Big Johnson Avenue

as only agent rachel could say: "that's a sick deal"

Big Johnson :)

YO CC! howz tricks?

hanging in there. keep up the good work.

oh my god!!! you have to check out the video with the new ending (virtual tour besthomeintheworld.com), ellie may and jethro do comedy? I think I've seen their act in some lounge in vegas...

I love that she took the time to put on the same blouse-sweater thing for the add-on ending as in the original footage (hair is different so you can sort of tell it was a different day if you have a slow morning and just want to keep replaying the video). I also like the light cans atop the bookshelf burning circles of light into the ceiling--very classy.

But for all our mockery, the place is like a zillion other apartments on the market--no worse, no better. It is the location and building that make it different than the cookie-cutters all over the UES, Murray Hill, Lincoln Center area, etc. Sale of this place will come down to the price. Period. It has no particular features that make it great or awful. Use all the adjectives you want. It is what it is. And what it is right now is too expensive.

That didn't come out right. All I meant by reference to neighborhood was that some people may like this location better, some won't, than the same basic layout anywhere else in the city. Some people will find the building depressing. Others won't care or maybe it is even better than where they are now. The apartment itself is fairly generic.

If you could get this apartment in same condition just off Washington Sq. Park surrounded by Central Village Charm and park for the same price, I don't understand why on earth you'd pick this one. And you can do just that if you look a little bit for a fixer-upper that needs a bathroom/kitchen makeover like this one does. This unit is at least $100,000 too high for the market at this moment. Wanna really sell it? Drop the price $150,000 and stay a 1/2 step ahead of the market and garner multiple bids--if you don't like the bids don't accept them--no harm done, but you'll know what the market says the place is worth and what your options are. As is, this won't move at all, owner will nickel and dime her way down with price reductions of $10,000 and $15,000 every 5 weeks as market stagnates or drops further, time will go buy, her life will be on hold...this is heading right for classic FSBO errors (see, e.g., 407 Park Ave South FSBO that is discussed endlessly on here for same errors).

Skip the gimmicks. Price the thing right and get it sold and move on with your life.

but kylewest, the apartment has California closets. That certainly makes up for the $150,000 it is overpriced by. Plus, it has 4 bedrooms!

stop the presses!! I just called the owner and they said they had quite a few offers and should have a contract at or above the asking this week or even today????!!!! Ok so maybe the drought is over, we've hit bottom and it's time to start selling some inventory, I think I'll celebrate at lunch today with a mimosa!! thank you jethro and ellie may!!!

best cookie cutter du monde

I don't believe there are multiple offers. The blonde is lying.

maybe? but maybe the market is ready to turn? the consumer confidence report was off the charts today. I don't know about you but beauty school is my only other option if this thing doesn't turn around... I think I'm drunk from my mimosas...

This just showed up in one of my automated StreetEasy emails. Is The Burkhardt Group now the sellers broker or are they just hoping to bring in buyers and get a 3% fee? Makes me disbeleive the multiple offers story Tiffany heard.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/407423-coop-165-west-end-ave-lincoln-square-new-york

I guess the seller lied. In order to list the apartment, the seller would have had to sign a contract with them.

Out of all that verbiage in Burkhardt's ad, it's tough to pick just one gem. I'll go with the last sentence:

*(principles only please)

Too late for that, huh?

Jethro (the owner) told me he was going to continue his shock and awe campaign until he had the $929k in his big hairy palms, he's seen too many contract deals fall thru to stop now... It sounds like ellie may has f'ed him over once or twice, or maybe this guy was in desert storm??

it's probably not a bad strategy, I've lost 4 contract deals in the past year, and before that it's never happened...

On the NYT website two low-life brokers (Ardor and Bellmarc) put ads for this apartment.Ardor's is also illiterate: "Luxary Doorman Bldg", "Living Room has a seperate Dinning Alcove"

Web ID: 967641 and Web ID: W2114538S

Since they do not mention the free car, I guess they are keeping it for themselves!

The Burkhardt Group listing is "No longer available" after only one day. And today there's a new brokerage add by Demsker Realty, again without the free car.
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/407681-coop-165-west-end-avenue-lincoln-square-new-york

So if there is no free car, the seller has essentially RAISED their price by $25,000!

must be part of jethro's "shock and awe" campaign or ellie may drove off with the cameraman or who ever that guy was behind the camera for the revised virtual tour. I don't know about you but I have a hunch that the bottom is in and all those bottom feeders who have been on the sidelines all winter when we're usually selling are going to all make a move at once and drive the market back to last year's prices!!!!! or maybe it's because I'm still hung over from last ....?

Wow, just checked in to see if I could bring a buyer to elli may and jethros 12,000 sf warehouse and ellie told me they have a signed contract on multiple bids above the asking price. According to the website besthomeintheworld.com they are now at $1.1 million or 999k all cash? who are these freaks???!!!... is it noon yet? I need a drink? I think it's my birthday again.