Obama Wins the Nobel Prize

I was thinking along similar lines as well. He hasn't done much right now and certainly not enough to garner a nomination, much a win the Nobel Peace Prize. This just cheapens the whole process and dilutes the awards and achievements of past and future winners. Shame.

The age of Left Wingers - full speed ahead! I wouldn't be surprised if he also gets nominated for the Nobel Prize and the Fields Metal, just to round off his science and math achievements.

Fail.

He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being George W. Bush.

So, he'll be sharing the award with everyone else in the universe?

Curmudgeons.

Medal

Please take it to a political blog. Unless you can show me how this affects my apartment search?

Obama is going to use the money to buy a condo in Williamsburg at $900 psf.

How does this prize work?
Don't you have to do something...
And then something good comes of it...
Everyone says 'WOW' that was frigg'in great!
Come collect your prize.
Seems I must have the order wrong

"and the lady who hated Jews"

Khadafi?

Peace prize? piece of what?

More interested to know if Anyone in the Obama admin will will an Nobel Prize in Economics....

If only Krugman had been included...

> Khadafi?

There was an African lady who won it, after saying that AIDS was created by the Jews to kill Africans.

> How does this prize work?
> Don't you have to do something...
> And then something good comes of it...
> Everyone says 'WOW' that was frigg'in great!
> Come collect your prize.
> Seems I must have the order wrong

You would think... but I think that idea went in the toilet when the guy who killed scores of women and children, refused an offer for a peaceful settlement, and then it comes out that he was basically just using his position to steal billions for himself... get the prize.

Way to go Nobel morons!

Maybe he'll win next Cy Young award
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLPzZlqO64Y

the Nobel prize has been the joke of the intellectual community for over 10 years now. Obama does not understand getting either. Other prizes are much more prestigous

> Maybe he'll win next Cy Young award

ROTFL.

"Obama is going to use the money to buy a condo in Williamsburg at $900 psf" is the comment of the week. On-subject, on-message and on tha MONAY!

I think it's completely bizarre.

it's a strange choice, but let's not be hyperbolic. he was not selected based on two weeks of his presidency. that was when he was nominated. the selection was made in the past month, after he had been president for eight months. they clearly gave him the prize to demonstrate their support for the new direction he has taken for US foreign policy. personally, i'd prefer if they had waited a while to see out some of these changes. but to say that prize was awarded based on two weeks of work is simply inaccurate.

thats quite a stretch....

Yes - not a good message to send that, as Commander and Chief, what you say matters more than what you do. Either way (i.e. whatever side you're on), it ends up looking like a spectacle.

I agree, and while Obama did not lobby to receive the award, he harms American prestige for accepting it for just that reason. He should not make a public acceptance of it. A very bad photo op.

He won for not being Bush and maybe for saving the world from Sarah Palin.

I'm not Bush. Do I get the award, too?

maly - that about sums it up, sadly enough, The entire campaign, election, and now presidency was/is just one big anti-Bush rally. I'd like some steadier legs on my commander and chief, thank you.

uws mom and riversider,

you can't criticize the president for being selected for an award. he did not ask for the award, he didn't apply for it, he didn't seek it out. it was given to him. you can disagree with the choice they made, but you certainly can't blame president obama.

you're right. can i blame him for being a narcissistic egomaniac? nice to see you hr ;)

"maly - that about sums it up, sadly enough, The entire campaign, election, and now presidency was/is just one big anti-Bush rally. I'd like some steadier legs on my commander and chief, thank you."

Yeah, by this logic Kerry = Obama.

> but you certainly can't blame president obama.

You can certainly blame him for accepting it.

>The nomination came two weeks into his presidency. Again, he was selected
>on the basis of two weeks in office (and I good campaign I guess).

Regardless of your opinion of the vote, it took place last week. The selection process takes almost a year after the initial nomination.

On the topic of real estate: where would the Obamas live, if they moved to New York? Anyone care to suggest a particular apartment, and defend the decision?

I'm thinking they'd buy Alec Baldwin's apartment on CPW.

I think many feel the nomination itself was premature.

do you a have a link for this apt? I can see him on the UWS for sure. eh..maybe UES actually.

"The selection process takes almost a year after the initial nomination."

So, we're to count the period between nomination and election?

So obama gets the peace prize for his campaign? wow. it was a good campaign, but...

you can't criticize the president for being selected for an award. he did not ask for the award, he didn't apply for it, he didn't seek it out. it was given to him. you can disagree with the choice they made, but you certainly can't blame president obama.

Happy Renter, I thought I was clear about that, I don't get on Obama for winning the award. I said I would get on him for accepting it..(see below)

I agree, and while Obama did not lobby to receive the award, he harms American prestige for accepting it for just that reason. He should not make a public acceptance of it. A very bad photo op.

blame him for accepting it? please. he should snub the international community for no reason? he should accept the prize and donate the money to a worthy cause. very simple.

as for "narcissistic egomaniac," you are entitled to your opinion. i don't share it, obviously, and i see no evidence that his personality matches that description. i guess you won't be voting for him.

> he should snub the international community for no reason

The international community?

Its five Norwegians...

huh? the vote took place LAST WEEK. he was not selected based on his campaign. there are plenty of good reasons to object to the award without making up fake ones.

as for the 'bad photo op,' you think it would make a good photo op for the president of the united states to decline to accept the most prestigious international award? how about he accepts it and makes an appropriate, humble acceptance speech? i think that would be preferable to an unnecessary international incident.

uwsmom: http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/444760-coop-300-central-park-west-upper-west-side-new-york

"Its five Norwegians..."

Is it? That's hilarious! Makes it all the more strange and inappropriate.

nyc10022,
if you think the award is so insignificant then why waste your time caring that obama received it? my understanding is that the nobel peace prize is the most prestigious international award in existence. that's why i think this is an interesting issue. if it's just an irrelevant little nothing that only matters to five norwegians than why should you object to the president receiving it?

"my understanding is that the nobel peace prize is the most prestigious international award in existence."

hr - if this is true, then you cannot deny the fact that this is sending a terribly careless message to the world about words vs. actions.

i dislike Obama's economic team intensely. however i believe that the man himself is extremely committed, and is finding out the hard way that the american system does not encourage nor reward change, particularly with any alacrity.

in terms of narcissism and egomania, i would wonder what individual lacking at least some amount of those qualities would have felt compelled to run for office given the circumstances that they knew they would be inheritting. it seemed to me like asking to be hit with a baseball bat every day for at least four years.

the real reason he received the award, imo, is that in a very short period of time he repudiated long-standing policies of diplomacy. he rejected the notion that we can change policy without interaction (other than the invasion sort). was it too soon? did it diminish the message and effect? possibly. or it accentuates how greatly the world appreciates a United States that is willing to take a seat at the negotiating table rather than refusing to do so "because we don't have to."

uwsmom,

again, obama did not seek the award. maybe they made a mistake, but you are using that as part of your case against the president. he was selected.

one other point: the reaction around the world has been almost uniformly positive. so the idea that this sends a bad message to the world is a bit strange. people seem thrilled with the choice.

ar - agree with you about narc/ego and running for office. Obama nature just seems a little more transcendental than others (e.g. the Olympic debacle).

"in a very short period of time he repudiated long-standing policies of diplomacy. he rejected the notion that we can change policy without interaction" - yes, this was his anti-bush message. My take away is that he said what was necessary to get elected.

PS I also dislike Obama's economic team. For the record.

This is a very funny partial list.

2009 - Barack Obama
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin

Good, Obama won the Prize for NOT being Bush!!

I'm loving the Republican outrange!! Hhahahahaha.

outrage*

Wait. You think it's funny that Yitzhak Rabin, Jimmy Carter, the United Nations, and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won the award? Who do you think it should go to?

Wonderboy - I'm a registered Dem. And that's a TERRIBLE reason to win. Are you not following along?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/02/obamas_french_lesson_98547.html

WASHINGTON -- When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom. Just how low we've sunk was demonstrated by the Obama administration's satisfaction when Russia's president said of Iran, after meeting President Obama at the U.N., that "sanctions are seldom productive, but they are sometimes inevitable."

uwsmom,not his talking. his actions. the us has indicated it is willing to talk to the enemy. that is HUGE.

lets see... the two people who set the Israel/Palestinian relationship back the most... Carter and Arafat.

Yes, I find it awfully funny.

> "Its five Norwegians..."
> Is it? That's hilarious! Makes it all the more strange and inappropriate.

Yup. Committee of 5 chosen by Norway parliament. Its generally considered pretty far out lefty...

> the United Nations

The united nations? really? lmao.

A.R.
We talk to our enemies all the time. When we say we don't, we still do it, just via 3rd party. Don't believe for one minute the U.S. and Iran have not been speaking. They have.

RS, so simplistic. i'm out of here. keep spewing the hate.

"nyc10022,
if you think the award is so insignificant then why waste your time caring that obama received it?"

You're now making things up. I never said it was insignificant.
My point was that a bunch of morons run that show.

"my understanding is that the nobel peace prize is the most prestigious international award in existence."

well, certainly not anymore.

But I kind think the real nobel prizes matter a whole lot more, as most scientists would tell you.

"if it's just an irrelevant little nothing that only matters to five norwegians"

Now you're just not making sense.
I didn't say it only matters to five norweigians... I noted that the SELECTION PROCESS is five norwegians.

Hence the likelihood for dumb mistakes like this one.

Anyone familiar with Ole & Lars and the Norwegian jokes?

ar - I appreciate your points. Glad that you (and many others) aren't as jadeds as me.

"the reaction around the world has been almost uniformly positive. so the idea that this sends a bad message to the world is a bit strange. people seem thrilled with the choice."
hr - I don't know how to respond to that. my gut reaction is to get into a "people cling to their religions" type of argument.

Carter?!?! nyc10022 what are you talking about? how in the world do you think carter set the palestinian/israeli relationship back? he is the one who negotiated peace between israel and egypt, for god's sake, which is considered the most important diplomatic achievement in israeli history.

look, the right-wing obama haters on this board now want to trash the nobel committee, and that's fine. some of their picks have been poor, some have been good. it's never possible to get them all right.

"We talk to our enemies all the time. When we say we don't, we still do it, just via 3rd party. Don't believe for one minute the U.S. and Iran have not been speaking. They have."

So the neocons were lying for 8 years. How about that?

So the neocons were lying for 8 years. How about that?
We're supposed to publish clandestime meetings with foreign governments? that's whacked.

nyc10022,

you said straight out that it would not be a snub to the international community for obama to refuse the award, but only to 'five norwegians.' i guess you want to take that back now.

riversider,

are you purposely misinterpreting what people said? of course the government can engage in secret meetings. the point is that it was government policy under the bush administration not to talk to enemies. bush claimed that it was some sort of appeasement to even talk to iran or north korea, and the results speak for themselves.

"We're supposed to publish clandestime meetings with foreign governments? that's whacked."

No, better to pretend they don't happen and make it a point of pride and politics to say you are doing what you are not doing. And then bash the other side for saying that it is doing what you have been doing all along but don't want to admit to doing.

Carter did great after Camp David, but since then he's lost it. the comments equating being anti-health care as being racist were just bizarre. Same with the comments he made about Gaza.. Upset many Israeli's who up till then were very appreciative of his work bringing peace between them and Egypt.

no, i don't want to take that back, I want you to read more carefully before you make false claims. You are simply mistaken here.

If the recipient says "I don't deserve it", refusing the award would be a snub to the selection committee... not the award itself or the international committee.

So, do you want to take that back now?

Fine, send Hillary on jet blue to pick it up and say thank you.

So, raise your hand if you think Obama truly deserves this award, for the reason it was given, at this point in time.

I guess he deserves it as much as Al Gore and Yassir Arafat

*raises audemars piguet watched hand*

do tell...

and don't just raise your hand b/c you agree with what Obama spouts b/c you hate Bush. Wrong reason for affirmative vote.

Unfortunately, that seemed to be the entire 2004 Democratic platform. Thank god (even for the Democrats) that didn't work.

uwsmom,

bad question. would i have selected president obama this year? no. do i think he is unworthy of being selected, no. so does my hand go up or not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

uws mom - i think you're on the wrong site - you should go to redstate - where your comments will be welcomed and appreciated by other like minded people or better yet just turn on limbaugh and start nodding your head.

damn..you got tubed.

uwsmom isn't a redstate candidate. some others are, however.

it would be shockingly ill-advised to not accept this award. the acceptance speech had better be a work of art, however.

ncy10025 - i think you're confused. I love the stigma that gets attached to Obama dissenters :)

hr - it's a perfectly good question. I'm sorry you aren't comfortable raising your hand.

but, better question hr - do you agree with the REASON it was awarded? space and time are fixed....

that's the same question, actually....

I think the international community is praying, like many Americans, that this 'brown' man has the answers and is willing to shower him with positive accolades to incourage and inspire not just Obama but, the world. If you build it they will come type idea. Hey, it's not my money to give away and not our prize. Does the big'O' diserve such an award? Let's review: 1. first man of partial African desent to be elected the big cheese. 2. Raised more money to be elected than and single candidate in history. 3. Will spend and tax greater than any president in history. 4. Will alter health care just enough for you to only notice one change...increase in premiums. 5. The world is treating this presidency like it was the special olmypics (clap clap clap look at how hard he's trying...come here..your such a president...here's a medal)
I guess they have this prize to give away and the choices were slim.

It's a blue state with some red stripes.
Nothing like hypolibs. (hypocrite liberals who extole the virtues of varied opinions and beliefs as long as it only matches what they believe)

ncy10025
Far left is the mirror image of the far right.

uwsmom
Don't let the pc police cast labels on your thoughts.

bad year for peace.

but falco, the president does not act alone. democracy, it's a system.

Ole & Lars are just advancing an agenda. The whole award is a joke.

Right now the Poles & the Chechs are none to happy with Obama and it's far from clear if his approach with regards to North Korea and Iran are the right ones.

An award would have made sense if it could have looked back at actual accomplishments.

"this 'brown' man"

classy

at least Berlusconi said , "tan", and yes, very not classy.

yes, I like colors!

and, not to rub it in, but I think I won that round. Cha ching!

by that I meant blue and red, but I'm cool with brown too ;). That was fun. Kisses to all!

nobody likes a gloater. just kidding. did they publish a list of the other nominees? would be interesting to see who he beat out.

do you think Clinton with his global initiative is pissed? would be good snl material.

"ncy10025
Far left is the mirror image of the far right."

Bingo. I've seen scary stuff on the right, but being in NYC, I've actually seen more scary stuff on the left.

'brown' was in the view of the nobel nominating commitee. Although I could not help notice the melinen content of his skin. I'm good with brown, yellow, white, off white, off brown, red and, green (that would be my color). Snaps to the PC police and their hypersensitive vigilance. I also offer no alternative ideas. The other choice in this highly restricted two party system offers little to intice the imagination. We need the Streeteasy Party. Consider the power we could yeild. We offer all view points from well thought out to off the cuff. We spare no one's feelings and when we call each other morons it's just for the day.
AR for President!
We move the command centre to PC village and quietly press to a change from republic to empire.
After a little conquest and the collection of booty we'll be on easy street.

brown was in the view of the nobel committee? evidence?

President Barack Hussein Obama:

"I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee. Let me be clear: I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations. To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace. But I also know that this prize reflects the kind of world that those men and women, and all Americans, want to build -- a world that gives life to the promise of our founding documents. And I know that throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes. And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action -- a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century."

pitch perfect.

Agreed. And to bring this vaguely, metaphorically back to real estate: I'd be delighted if the Obamas lived in my building.

"To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace."

I agree.... Obama does not deserve to be in the same category as Arafat, Carter, or the crazy African woman. On that we agree.

"I'd be delighted if the Obamas lived in my building."

No you wouldn't. You'd be harassed daily by the Secret Service and you would move out in a second. People who have lived near the private homes of presidents have all said that they hate it. (and if you still want to live near Obama, the house directly next door to his in Chicago is for sale).

I'd be delighted if the Obamas lived in my building."

No you wouldn't. You'd be harassed daily by the Secret Service and you would move out in a second. People who have lived near the private homes of presidents have all said that they hate it. (and if you still want to live near Obama, the house directly next door to his in Chicago is for sale).

Disagree, it would be fine. Property values go up. Besides even if you question his leadership and policies, it's clear he's intelligent & a mench.

So . . . anyone still looking at apartments or have we all given up that waste of time for this one . . .
For the record, I think it's just ducky that Obama received the Nobel Prize. I'd like to see him become the first person to repeat. He makes it easier to be an American in places other than America again. He has taken enormous strides to repair our reputation and standing around the world, and he has begun the difficult task of making our enemies marginalized, rather than celebrated. The missile shield defense decision certainly advanced the possibility of peace, and as noted in the thread above the direct negotiations with Iran are positive steps, as was his embracing, welcoming speech in Cairo. And there are so many other initiatives he has begun also. To say he has done nothing in comparison to what he has promised to do is to agree that the goals he has set for himself and for us as a nation around him are lofty indeed. But it would be a mistake to say that he has done nothing, just because the journey ahead of him is so long.

liquidpaper,,
beautiful sentiments. are there any examples in history where this strategy has worked successfully. Ronald Reagan exapnded freedom using a very different tactic. So far Russia, Iran & North Korea etc..have not validated this strategy.