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My son likes this

Started by loyola77
over 16 years ago
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http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/343220-coop-45-martense-street-prospect-lefferts-gardens-brooklyn I know the neighborhood issues and all, but he likes it. He works near 14th street. If I can not stop him and he likes to bid: how much to bid? Is this location to shady. He is after the $8,000 first time buyer tax credit. I am beside myself.
Response by OTNYC
over 16 years ago
Posts: 547
Member since: Feb 2009

I mean, how much lower can it go? That place is probably closer to 800 sq. ft., but even so, if he can pick it up for $130 or so, what's the worst that can happen. Make sure he has an attorney that does the necessary due dilligence on financials, etc., but if he plans to be there for 5 years or so, looks like a great option to me. If he can put 25K down, the mortgage will be ~ $500 a month, so his tax advantaged monthly cost (with mtnce.) will be around $850!! I say let him go for it.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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why can't it go lower?

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Response by loyola77
over 16 years ago
Posts: 6
Member since: Mar 2008

Thanks you OTNYC. what a relief that there are positives to this. I am calmer now. Thanks streeteasy.

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Response by bugelrex
over 16 years ago
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I think the only concern in this case is .. safety of the area.
No matter how cheap it is, if the area turns into a war zone it would be a very bad purchase..

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Response by tina24hour
over 16 years ago
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"if the area turns into a war zone" - Seriously? You mean like in "Escape From New York"?

loyola - if you're concerned about security (and noise and resale value), you might want to encourage him to look at a 2nd floor apartment in the same building.

Tina
(Brooklyn broker)

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Response by loyola77
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

Thank you Tina. I will inquire about the other units. Thank you all.

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Response by Skunkles
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2009

My delicate little sister lives over there. I was very nervous at first. I'm not really that nervous about it now. If it were my brother moving over there, I'm not sure I'd be worried at all.

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Response by bramstar
over 16 years ago
Posts: 1909
Member since: May 2008

The one thing that concerns me in your post, loyola, is that you say your son is "after" the $8,000 tax credit. If he's jumping into the market solely to get his hands on that 8K, he's making a very misguided decision.

He should think about a few things before deciding to make such an enormous commitment:

-Is this space large enough for him to expand into (if he gets married and has a kid or two in the next few years)?

-The location might work for him now, but is it a place in which he envisions himself in 5 to 10 years?

-It is extremely likely the real estate market will continue to fall over the foreseeable future, with "less desirable" areas taking the hardest hit. Is your son prepared for the real possibility his property value will diminish significantly? Is he willing to "ride it out"?

Buying property is an enormous undertaking, and one that requires careful consideration.

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Response by divvie
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2007

Wow - talk about jumping to the wrong conclusion.

When I saw the title I thought that this would be a light hearted post about a 5 year old boy liking a 15 CPW listing because he saw a a pic of a long hallway that would be perect for riding his bike - or something along those lines.

Kinda like how my kids loved it every time they saw a giant inflatable union rat outside a development because they thought the guys standing around were celebrating the year of the rat.

Anyway loyola, you say you know the area has issues but how well do you know it?
Are you beside yourself because of potential safety issues? If so, it would not hurt to get another set of opinions from brownstoner.com
Click on the forum link and you can create a new post there. I have seen a lot of posts about PLG so they should be able to help you.

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Response by wisco
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2009

had friends that moved there over 20 years ago and stayed for 10. it's fine. if i was single, i'd look at east williamsburg or bushwick before prospect lefferts though - it's more families buying buildings (of the the gentrifiers) and not as much to do like in the greater williamsburg area for a single guy.

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Response by julia
over 16 years ago
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think of resale...who will buy there in 2 years...the area that your son is considering is not great and prices will probably go lower.

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Response by sledgehammer
over 16 years ago
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"not great" is a nice way to put it.

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Response by OTNYC
over 16 years ago
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CC - didn't say it couldn't go lower. Seriously though, while this may be a marginal area, an 800 sq. ft. apartment for $130K (if they come down to that) seems like a good deal to me. I mean, after adjusting for tax, costs will be ~$850 per month, what are comparable rentals going for in that area? Plus, not like it's a terrible area - mostly West Indian, 5 minutes to park, and 5 minute or less walk to 2,5,B,Q trains. Not my first choice, but certainly not a "war zone". Great food, btw, NY Times ran an article last summer and we drove out to try some jerk chicken.

Loyola - you will come across many on this board who think buying any real estate at any price is a bad idea. Don't let them get to you. Home ownership has many benefits including a greater sense of investment in your community, sense of responsibility, etc.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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"I mean, how much lower can it go?"

this didn't mean that you thought it couldn't go lower? huh? what did you mean?

please do not include me as one who thinks "buying any real estate at any price is a bad idea." If it were selling for $25,000 I could understand your comment, but at $135 K it clearly could go lower. Not sure that rentals are the basis for price particularly in a marginal area. Lets say for the sake of argument, he saves $700 a month over a rental--two years that $16 K. If this baby goes down 15% he's out of the money. Risk and return don't seem to work here to me.

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Response by drdrd
over 16 years ago
Posts: 1905
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I wonder if loyola's concern is safety. I read an article about a guy who got the daylights beaten out of him, BAD, leaving the subway somewhere over thataway, not Manhattan, I know. I don't know the area, it may be fine, but personal safety certainly trumps a financial loss, in my book.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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PS "Approximately 1040 SF"? GMAFB.

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Response by loyola77
over 16 years ago
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Divvie, I followed your advice and went to Brownstoner..some good advise there, but some I did not expect and was shocked. Some said I as a "creepy, overprotective, pathetic Mom". Some thought I am a man in disguise. I think I will stay put and get feedback from "my friends in Streeteasy" as my children put it.

Thanks you.

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Response by bramstar
over 16 years ago
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Aw, that stinks, loyola. The Brownstowner folks can be mean - they make even the most offensive curmudgeons and cranks here at SE seem like a basket of puppies :)

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