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What is this Landlord's Motivation?

Started by ncy10025
over 16 years ago
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Our building is pre-war with 96 units- 24 hr doorman. ~1/2 - rent stabilized/controlled and the other 1/2 market rate. Building consists of only 1 bed, 2 bed and 3 bed apts. None of the market rate tenants are having their leases renewed and are being told that the management company wants/prefers we go month-to-month. Any idea as to why they wouldn't want to renew leases on market rate tenants? Some of us think it may be that the building is going coop -but then why not renew the market rate tenants - they have to renew the rent stabilized/controlled
Response by alpine292
over 16 years ago
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that sounds unusual. Either they want to go co-op or maybe they want to sell the building.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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maybe planning to selectively refurb market rate apartments? doesn't seem to make any sense.

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Response by UESBandit
over 16 years ago
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They want to go condo?

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Response by ncy10025
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2009

All the market rate apartments are renovated.

Does a month-to-month lease somehow make you inelligible for coop insider pricing? we would be the only people (market) that would be interested in buying. rent stabilized/controlled can't see them buying into a coop and they can't kick them out if the go coop.

Also they allowed me to negotiate a reduction in rent.

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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Maybe they're replacing plumbing risers, re-wiring whole lines, etc. . . . ?

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Response by ab_11218
over 16 years ago
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they may not want to lock in a lower rent for 2 yrs lease when they expect that by beginning of 2010, they can get a lot more.

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Response by trevorF
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

do you live in midtown east....is that who i think it is???

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Response by ncy10025
over 16 years ago
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no i live on the UWS. they aren't even giving one year leases - which should be a no- brainer as rents are falling and I doubt they'll climb higher in one year.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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there's a case (although Second Department, so it's not a slam dunk in the First Department) which ruled that a Sponsor MUST give renewal leases to the tenants in their unsold shares (not exactly the case here, though). There are also "anti-warehousing" laws (in other words, there's a cap on the number of vacant units a LL can carry and then Coop or Condo).

One thing to look at is the other holdings of the landlord and see what else he has done. There are quite a number of guys who if I heard who it was, could tell you with 80% certainty what they were planning on.

One reason for the month-to-month is that the LL may believe it would be an impediment to forming a "Tenant's committee" for fear of not having your lease renewed at the end of the month.

"All the market rate apartments are renovated."

I find it hard to believe that they are renovated to the same extent they would be if the building were being converted to Condo. just doesn't make sense, never seen anyone with that kind of building do that.

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Response by dwell
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

Agree it's weird, but it's not warehousing. Probly doesn't want to lock into lower rents, but, too bad, that's the market. It's a bad time to convert to condo/coop. Very strange. Worse comes to worse, if he gives you a 30 day notice, you can go to court & get around/ at least 6 more months. Stupid to piss off so many Ts & cause them to organize.

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Response by Daniel234
over 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2009

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Response by julia
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

i thought there aren't insider price adjustments...sounds strange.

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Response by ncy10025
over 16 years ago
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So 30yrs --- are you saying that if you new who the management company was you could find out what's going on -- i think they have a few building on the uws.

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Response by bouy
over 16 years ago
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Weinreb

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Response by drdrd
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2007

You'd think=I'd think that a one year lease wouldn't hurt anything; it doesn't seem like the rental rates will rise in that time. Hmmm .....

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