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closed listing -- man they got a deal . . .

Started by Rent_or_Buy
over 16 years ago
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So I thought it would be fun to list closed sales then when you see the closing price you say "MAN THEY GOT A DEAL!" I'll start -- http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/closing/803179
Response by lostintransit
over 16 years ago
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Those of us who don't subscribe to SE can't see this link. Would you provide the details?

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Response by Rent_or_Buy
over 16 years ago
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Response by ILoveMuayThai
over 16 years ago
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Not such a deal with $2K maintenance.

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Response by sniper
over 16 years ago
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exactly. that maint. is another mortgage payment. probably $1.80/ft

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Response by Trompiloco
over 16 years ago
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Rent-or-Buy, a good deal and 15% below ask, but not a steal. 18K in the same bldg is asking 749K, so it stands a good chance of closing below 725K. I think they're simply facing reality. 25% below a peak-price lower floor comp (11K for 970K in 2007) and in-line with a 2005 comp (8K for 642K in 2005)

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Response by notadmin
over 16 years ago
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"Not such a deal with $2K maintenance."

very true, "not wanting to be a renter" can cost a few years of full time wage slavery.

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Response by Trompiloco
over 16 years ago
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This thread is a good idea though, so here's another one in the same 'hood:

225 East 36th #9 O, just closed for 400K

This sale price is 30% below a good condition comp from 2007 (10 O sold for 595K) and 17% below an estate sale of the same year (11 O for 482K) This last one was a flip and the flippers are currently asking 649K for it, meaning 60% above what 9 O sold for. Good luck with that.

30% below peak (not to quote Pat Libman) is where deals are happening. 40% below are good deals.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 16 years ago
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admin... I likz... "time wage slavery." may i pls use?

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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tromp, you beat me to the 8K comparison. like the thread idea greatly though.

i'm sure admin will share.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 16 years ago
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in a buyer's market... the last COMP is what you base your 20% off of.. .so that the idiot that did the trade at $725K... I'd use that to walk into 18K w/ an offer of $580K... congrats you just made $140K in 3 months... go buy a boat!

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Response by w67thstreet
over 16 years ago
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thank the idiot...

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Response by reddog2669
over 16 years ago
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http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/380942-coop-345-east-77th-upper-east-side-new-york

Listed at $599K, buyer came in quick with an offer of $500K. Deal got done.

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Response by NWT
over 16 years ago
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Maintenance of ~$500 per room isn't bad in a doorman building.

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Response by notadmin
over 16 years ago
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all yours w67th.

nwt, it's the 1st time i hear "maintenance per room", but those rooms are really tiny. is that sofa in teh kitchen? no way! that's where the living room ends...

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Response by NWT
over 16 years ago
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If it's 1200 square feet -- no idea what it really is -- then about $1.70 psf. Still not bad. I'm looking at about $2K for a two-bedroom as being normal these days.

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Response by falcogold1
over 16 years ago
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W67
Let me wrap my tiny mind around that concept...
' the last COMP is what you base your 20% off '
Could you expand on this as if I am the idiot. The very last sale is the comp. -20%? Even if the sale was last week?
Help me out over here.

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Response by heltr
over 16 years ago
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http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/231211-coop-400-east-85th-street-yorkville-new-york
started at S1.95M
closed $1.1M
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/closing/795249

a little weird - the listings are not linked in SE but they are the same apt.

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Response by cccharley
over 16 years ago
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Heltr- are you sure? That's my sister's building. I can't get into the 2nd link

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Response by heltr
over 16 years ago
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not certain at all, just something I noticed while looking at another apt in the building.
the closed listing says it is for 11E and 12E which is what the original listing is for, but there are lots of inconsistencies within the closed link (like the addresses not matching anywhere etc). But the sellers are listed as Japanese and the apartment has a Japanese Tatami room....so it might just be
maybe some one else has some insight????

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Response by NWT
over 16 years ago
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It's the same apartment(s). The city reported the $1.1M as two separate units, 11E and 12E, while the listing has 1112E. Just a mismatch that SE will correct.

Probably more notice than that so-so building has gotten in a while.

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Response by Trompiloco
over 16 years ago
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That's remarkable, even if it's not really 2,400 sqft, but, let's say, 2,000, that comes to 550 psf. And most people calculate that based on the square footage as listed, so that would come out at about 458 psf, right?

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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That apartment was on the market for a long time. The pictures don't tell any great tales, and it's nowhere close to 2400sf. Tromp, it's hard to tell because the floor plan is cut off, but the living room is only 12x22 or some such, it's not that big of an apartment.

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Response by anonymous
over 16 years ago

in all fairness 11 O is fully renovated and 9 O was not. Still the buyers of 9 O got a great deal- 11 0 does not have 250k worth of renovations in it.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 16 years ago
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falcogold1... my bad... for not explaining....

let's say it takes 3-4 months to close... that means when that "comp" gets shown on SE or Acris with actual closing $ numbers... and every month brings further bad economic news (unemployment 7%, 8%, 9% 10% etc)... I would offer 20% off that comp since any seller is asking you to catch the proverbial battle axe... in this mkt... a 20% off a comped ask seems wholly reasonable... ask santoact... he just closed, but seems like he met the seller in the middle of where he believed the mkt was going, no?

Let me just also say the size of the cranium is in no way reflective of intelligence but a bigger penis is well a bigger penis....

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