P.S. 9: 3 schools within a school?

Anderson: citywide, as of this year, same test (OLSAT) as G&Ts.
G&T: District 3 only - the days when you could get a 90 and get in are over. You're looking at 99s, 98s.
Renaissance/gen ed - I think there are a good number of sibs (non-minority) of kids in the G&T.

Anderson is city-wide, test-score based, and relocating.

There will still be 3 schools. Anderson's space will be taken over by Center School (a selective middle school) that was sharing space with PS199.

Note that one of the big attractions of the Anderson Program (a.k.a. P.S.334) is that it offers elementary and middle school rolled into one program.

On the P.S.9 side, the administration are pretty sensitive to the issues raised by the split between G&T and Renaissance/GenEd. The teachers are all G&T-qualified, PTA funds are scrupulously pooled, and - as 10023 mentioned - lots of families straddle the boundary. Is there a difference in pacing, class composition and parental involvement? Sure, but I think the school deserves credit for managing the inevitable tension about as well as can be expected.

Would it be fair to say that both PS 87 and PS 166 are more homogeneous than PS 9 (meaning that they don't house 3 programs with different goals, class composition and demands)? Do they both signal a middle range between the overachieving students at PS9 Anderson/G&T and PS9 GenED? What are the chances for good students (but not stellar ones) at PS 87 or PS 166 to get into a school such as, for example, Center? Or other desirable MS/IS? I know you need to start preparing from the crib to get into Delta, but I don't care for that kind of path...

Trompiloco: Anderson/PS334 has been a completely separate school for about five years. And since 334 is moving, it doesn't really figure in any discussion of the homogeneity or heterogeneity of P.S.9.

I would agree that 87 is probably more homogeneous than the combined population of PS9 G&T and GenEd. That probably has more to do with neighborhood demographics than the bifurcation of PS9 into two programs.

IIRC, PS166 has a G&T program that grew out of an acrimonious battle over the G&T at PS9. Whatever the similarities or dissimilarities between the schools, I think they have more to do with catchment boundaries and institutional history than program structure.

Where is Anderson/PS334 moving to?

MS44 - about seven blocks south.

Forget about Anderson..great school and program if you can get in, but nothing to do with PS 9 and a new school renting the space will make no difference either.

I have two kids in the school, both in Renaissance. PS 9 is ONE school with two identical programs with the same faculty. The kids have no idea about the two programs. The G&T programs can just sometimes be taught a faster pace, but there is no difference in curriculum. One year a teacher could be assigned to G&T and the next year teaching Renaissance.

There is definitely a much higher level of parents invlovement in the G&T classes though.

You of course get a larger minority in the Renaissance classes but the diversity of kids is great and my kids love it and are getting a great education and love for learning.

If your kids don't test to get in, Renaissance is still a great program if you are in cachement.

curiously: I think this year there will be a larger proportion of neighborhood kids (who would have otherwise lotto-ed into 87). If the principal wants to increase popularity of the school (though I'm not sure what would be his/her incentive for doing so), he/she would be wise to get great teachers for the incoming K class. Again, it may not be in the principal's best interest to attract more whiny, educated, entitled parents to the school...

the whiny, educated, entiteld parents hoepfuly donate alot of money to make up for the annoyance.