In the beginning a fisherman owned 100 pools to fish and a farmer owned 100 acres to grow vegetables. The farmer needs protein and fisherman needs vitamins/vegetables so they trade and all is well with the world with a little left over for both to sock away for the bad harvests. A banker and RE broker comes into town and says to the farmer... why don't you take charge of your future and own a part... [more]
In the beginning a fisherman owned 100 pools to fish and a farmer owned 100 acres to grow vegetables. The farmer needs protein and fisherman needs vitamins/vegetables so they trade and all is well with the world with a little left over for both to sock away for the bad harvests.
A banker and RE broker comes into town and says to the farmer... why don't you take charge of your future and own a part of the fishery outright... so the farmer buys 1 pool from the fisherman with all of his rainy day vegetables, pays the Banker/RE Broker. The banker/RE broker buys a ford and goes to vacation in Maui.
The farmer not being a fisherman gets very little fish from the 1 pool. The RE broker and banker sees the plight of the farmer and says don't worry. They approach the cash rich fisherman and say we'll lend you money to buy 2 acres from the farmer. The fisherman due to his naggy boyfriend buys 2 acres of farm with his rainy day fish and feels "proud" to own more "land." He is a bad farmer and cannot get the yield that the farmer can on his 2 new acres and so leaves it fallow.
The banker/re broker buy a Jaguar then Porsches then Ferraris F430 and goes to vacation in more and more exotic places, like Tahiti, Australia and back to Maui to rest up form the rigors of these vacations.
The process continues with the farmer and fisherman trading their fisheries and land back and forth with the farm land laying fallow and fishes not being harvested. When there is no vegetables and fishes to pay for the land and fisheries, the bankers/RE brokers come up with "State What You Will Seed and Harvest Loans" and then 100 Yr "What I will Harvest Loans."
Then one day, the farmer's children are hungry and asks for some fish... the farmer proudly strips a wad of $100 bills and say go buy some from the fisherman.... when the children go to buy the fish... the fisherman says... I have given all my fish to the RE broker and Banker and I have not fished for the last 10 yrs and now I have no fish to sell you.
The farmer and fisherman realizing that the youngest children has died this winter cause there was no fish and vegetables to feed them, pick up their pitchforks and shovels and head to find the Banker and RE Broker.... they demand their payments back.... the now tanned fat Banker and RE broker tell them "We have eaten all your fish and all your vegetables and we have many salad shooters and many fond memories, but nothing to feed your children."
The farmer and fisherman realizing their folly start to plant and harvest the land and fisheries right away.... but 15 more seasons will pass before there is enough vegetables and fish to get back to the time b/f the banker/RE broker came to their village. Don't forget the bankers/re brokers demand their "interest" on the paper they have sold you. In that time all their children see hardship and hunger never experienced in their lifetimes.
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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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SteveF and Enrich0 say "Buy now before it's too late!!!"
Great story, btw ... what kind of music will you set it to? When does the movie come out?
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Response by sniper
over 16 years ago
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is the fisherman's boyfriend the "fishmerman's boyfriend" because they live in a state wehere "opposite marriage" is not legal?
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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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It's just a phase the fisherman's going through.
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Response by w67thstreet
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alnahart... Tupac :)
Sniper... in my world... people can sleep with whoever they want :)
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Response by waverly
over 16 years ago
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No alanhart, it is a parable. the fisherman is a fisher of men. It's right there if you squint real hard while drinking some bourbon. it's the story within the story.
It's Friday afternoonw67th, so don't leave us hanging. More stories....
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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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i'm just wonderin' why they didn't put the pitchforks and shovels to better use.
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Response by sniper
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mine too, but my question was about "the sacred institution of marriage", you know, the thing that all the republicans like to shout about in public before they set up their wide-stances in airport bathroom.
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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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Foot: "tap, tap, tap"
I thought there'd be a moral about the thriving microecosystems in the soil, and the teeming aqualife in the ponds, all the rich reward from not overworking the environment. But no!
The farmer's public image is that he's the "regular guy" in this story, but the smart (highly-leveraged) money says he's on the downlow.
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Response by waverly
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It's right there again, alanhart, "the farmer proudly strips a wad ".
W67th wouldn't lie to us.
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Response by alanhart
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I'm such a naïf.
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Response by w67thstreet
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"phase a fisherman is going thru" " foot tap tap tap" NICE NICE....
sniper.... in 50 yrs we'll all laugh at Rush Lim's stmt... the gays can't marry cause it'll cause small businesses to not hire workers due to the benefits they will need to pay the spouses..... hell that's the best argument ever for making all marriages illegal. Props for J Stewie for pointing that out.
ericho75/SteveF.... any new paid "bulls" care to engage in a serious discussion of human/capital resources in our society... or does society end at your wallet?
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Response by falcogold1
over 16 years ago
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You know what I'm thinking?
fish for dinner
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Response by w67thstreet
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yo waverly... and rock me amadeus... I think he died?
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Response by dwell
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So, the morale of the story is be a banker or a RE broker.
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good reading compre dwell...
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Response by trembling
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The point of this story is that both the fishermn and the farmer aren't so bright. Any slightly savy stranger can come to town and tell them to give up their livelihoods that they learned from their ancestors. Then, after they don't learn their lesson once, they become more and more gullible, never looking back and saying - hey, this worked well before the way it was but things have gotten worse and the advice I took didn't benefit me - but instead they continue to make another and another bad decision. You know the saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you - these guys just don't get it.
Frankly, this story is insulting to farmers and to fisherman because it assumes they have no smarts whatsoever and just never learn. Even worse, everyone on streeteasy thinks bankers and brokers are jerks and morons, and this dumb fisherman and this dumb farmer never figure it out which really reflects even more poorly on them. Oh well.
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Response by columbiacounty
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look at the fishermen in iceland.
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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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trembling, obviously this isn't a REAL story.
If it were, farmers would've piled on the mortgages in the 1920s, and then default on their farms all through the 1930s and have to move to California, their farms to be amassed by big agriculture.
And if it were, fisherman would've piled on the loans to buy increasingly huge factories-at-sea ships that trawled the sea floor until they'd destroyed the entire ecosystem, and there are no more cod, and then no more other fish that they gave cool new names to, and they'd have defaulted on their ships and had to get jobs selling antiques and ice cream to summer tourists.
So don't let the bankers and brokers in this story spook you. Stuff like this doesn't happen in real life.
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Response by mimi
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It's very nice to know about the stories for XXI century kids that west67th comes up with to entertain his children at night. We better let them know at a tender age about the big, stupid, bad, bad bubble that happen upon their births ....You might have a book deal there...
Now, who are us in the story? Innocent passerbys?
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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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alan: don't tap your little last season Prada shoes at me HONEY!
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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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everyone keeps on ignoring my pitchfork question. lazy americans are hard to incite, but do we think it may happen on some level soon, at least in CA?
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SteveF and Enrich0 say "Buy now before it's too late!!!"
Great story, btw ... what kind of music will you set it to? When does the movie come out?
is the fisherman's boyfriend the "fishmerman's boyfriend" because they live in a state wehere "opposite marriage" is not legal?
It's just a phase the fisherman's going through.
alnahart... Tupac :)
Sniper... in my world... people can sleep with whoever they want :)
No alanhart, it is a parable. the fisherman is a fisher of men. It's right there if you squint real hard while drinking some bourbon. it's the story within the story.
It's Friday afternoonw67th, so don't leave us hanging. More stories....
i'm just wonderin' why they didn't put the pitchforks and shovels to better use.
mine too, but my question was about "the sacred institution of marriage", you know, the thing that all the republicans like to shout about in public before they set up their wide-stances in airport bathroom.
Foot: "tap, tap, tap"
I thought there'd be a moral about the thriving microecosystems in the soil, and the teeming aqualife in the ponds, all the rich reward from not overworking the environment. But no!
The farmer's public image is that he's the "regular guy" in this story, but the smart (highly-leveraged) money says he's on the downlow.
It's right there again, alanhart, "the farmer proudly strips a wad ".
W67th wouldn't lie to us.
I'm such a naïf.
"phase a fisherman is going thru" " foot tap tap tap" NICE NICE....
sniper.... in 50 yrs we'll all laugh at Rush Lim's stmt... the gays can't marry cause it'll cause small businesses to not hire workers due to the benefits they will need to pay the spouses..... hell that's the best argument ever for making all marriages illegal. Props for J Stewie for pointing that out.
ericho75/SteveF.... any new paid "bulls" care to engage in a serious discussion of human/capital resources in our society... or does society end at your wallet?
You know what I'm thinking?
fish for dinner
yo waverly... and rock me amadeus... I think he died?
So, the morale of the story is be a banker or a RE broker.
good reading compre dwell...
The point of this story is that both the fishermn and the farmer aren't so bright. Any slightly savy stranger can come to town and tell them to give up their livelihoods that they learned from their ancestors. Then, after they don't learn their lesson once, they become more and more gullible, never looking back and saying - hey, this worked well before the way it was but things have gotten worse and the advice I took didn't benefit me - but instead they continue to make another and another bad decision. You know the saying, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you - these guys just don't get it.
Frankly, this story is insulting to farmers and to fisherman because it assumes they have no smarts whatsoever and just never learn. Even worse, everyone on streeteasy thinks bankers and brokers are jerks and morons, and this dumb fisherman and this dumb farmer never figure it out which really reflects even more poorly on them. Oh well.
look at the fishermen in iceland.
trembling, obviously this isn't a REAL story.
If it were, farmers would've piled on the mortgages in the 1920s, and then default on their farms all through the 1930s and have to move to California, their farms to be amassed by big agriculture.
And if it were, fisherman would've piled on the loans to buy increasingly huge factories-at-sea ships that trawled the sea floor until they'd destroyed the entire ecosystem, and there are no more cod, and then no more other fish that they gave cool new names to, and they'd have defaulted on their ships and had to get jobs selling antiques and ice cream to summer tourists.
So don't let the bankers and brokers in this story spook you. Stuff like this doesn't happen in real life.
It's very nice to know about the stories for XXI century kids that west67th comes up with to entertain his children at night. We better let them know at a tender age about the big, stupid, bad, bad bubble that happen upon their births ....You might have a book deal there...
Now, who are us in the story? Innocent passerbys?
alan: don't tap your little last season Prada shoes at me HONEY!
everyone keeps on ignoring my pitchfork question. lazy americans are hard to incite, but do we think it may happen on some level soon, at least in CA?