One reason to send your kids to private schools

Yeah, all the boom of the last few years sort of let people forget.... your kids are still at the mercy of NYC/NYS government politics and idiocy.

10023, carolst actually accused me of being THAT MOTHER earlier today. laughter.

ROTFL.

I guess we get a new moron about once a month. Endless supply.

Ah, I bypassed that whole train wreck of a thread. It's pretty funny, IMO. Maybe I'll see her sometime on the UWS.

Many reasons to avoid any venue where you might cross paths with her.

Read the article.

Can't miss her if she's wearing that same outfit. The picture in the paper didn't do it justice.

I did read the article. I have a voyeuristic interest in psychos - as long as they are not neighbors or parents of my daughter's classmates.

Hey, AR. Was in your nabe today, went for ramen at Momofuku. Avoid! Food has gone downhill. I might try Ippodu later this week.

I love this...

"The Roths previously lived in Millburn, N.J., where, after Ms. Roth waged war on the bagels and Pringles meal served to kids at lunch, received e-mail from one member of the P.T.A. that said, “Please, consider moving"

That sure looks like a disproportionately flabby upper arm in the picture. Maybe the Times will be next on the hit list.

she's nuts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/may/24/meme-roth-obesity-nutrition

There are unstable parents everywhere. I feel bad for her children.

10023, sad. but there are some great finds. was at Absinthe the other day, the owner used to be with Ducasse, has a business model based on small restaurants in cheap locations that don't require, at least initially, huge crowds and provides really great food for really cheap. come on down again and we'll go.

psychos are fascinating, as long as you don't have to deal with them too much. we have one or two in the class that could use meds adjustments, but that doesn't seem so bad for a high-level private.

aboutready, speaking of sad stories, did you see the custody case in the NYLJ the other day? Kid at that school on 93rd (Columbia?) The lower-school head reluctantly testified for one parent or the the other, called them both "obnoxious".

"has a business model based on small restaurants in cheap locations that don't require, at least initially, huge crowds and provides really great food for really cheap"

I guess that works because every new lease is cheaper!

Commercial is getting hit worse than residential. Crain's just reported a 50% increase in overall commercial vacancy rate (from 6 and change to 9 and change).... and their deal rents are estimated at 30 to 50% off...

Sorry nyc10023, talking to nyc10022 not you.

alex09 - great article. she's sad, isn't she? literally running from her ghosts.
darwinian, huh? has anyone told her that the female body requires X amount of body fat in order to BE fertile. sad....

NWT, didn't see it. i see some shit that should have turned my hair grey. in both the public and the private school worlds. but i'm very active in our private school, and i can tell you, the parents aren't allowed here to dish out much shit. and i can see why.

sadly i think it's not that common for parents to be both involved and able to allow their children to grow at their own pace and with their own style. people need to quit living through their children.

it's hard, very hard, to be a parent. maybe we should let people know that, but that would imply some recognition for parenting, particularly mothering.

Dream on. If anything has to be its own reward, it's that.

NWT, you're probably right. but sadly it's not its own reward for far too many people. and then you have abuse, subtle and not so subtle.

everything that is an effort should be recognized. every job well done should be noticed. even if it's just wiping up the snot of a baby without complaint, and standing over a toddler who is pitching the fit of a lifetime in a public place, while retaining a measure of calmness. the reward is a well-adjusted adult who has little to no serious psych issues, and few if any maladaptive coping behaviors. and how many people manage that? so maybe something's wrong, just a bit, here?

a person like that should just home school the kids. if she was thrown out of Millburn, one of the best school districts in the country, there is definitely no room for her here.

> a person like that should just home school the kids.

Yeah, but then her kids would be screwed even more.

At least they have a fighting chance if they get to meet normal humans.

We're very close to this story... very, very close. Neither the school nor the kids show any lasting, adverse effects, and the message of healthy eating is one worth hearing. As for the messenger, well...

Read this artical. Roth(mother) is basicly correct but, what a psycho!

We got a couple of over the top 'freak' moms at my kids school. There are so many paths to the same place. It always amazes me how these crusaders take the worst path on the road to their goal.

Can you just imagine being married to this crazy zealot? She probably has some intence redemable quality like................being able to suck a golf ball through 75 feet of garden hose.

"being able to suck a golf ball through 75 feet of garden hose"

WOW

Actually, sending your kid to private school will not prevent either of these problems, wacko mothers or crappy food. And after McDonald's opened on the corner, Trinity's food got worse. The food director told me he was 'fighting back' by serving Tater Tots. If you want to fight child obesity, keep fast food more than 2 blocks from schools, like they do with liquor stores.

I agree that healthy eating is VERY important for children and adults. But making your child use a junk food tupperware container seems a little extreme to me. Not only is it failing to teach a child moderation (a cupcake on a special occasion can be ok, even for the healthiest nuts), but this woman's person agenda is making her children a target for ridicule. Not the best parenting imo.

Kids need to be kids. If they get a few sweets a few times a year, they will not grow up diabetics. The school is feeding them healthy. At home they are being fed healthy. The whole point of being a kid is to look forward to that birthday party where you can "get your cake and eat it too".

The way I see it is, if you oppress your kids this much they will:
1 - Resent you.
2 - Will start sneaking behind your back and stuffing themselves with the junk.
3 - End up fat with diabetes.

Doesn't everyone want to be a kid again? If I had a nighmare, sorry... mother, like that, I definitely would want to be 18 and out of that hell hole of a house and never look back.

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She's a psycho and not a nice person. She is so nasty. You have to read the other articles. She herself has an eating disorder - she doesn't do breakfast or lunch and only will eat once she runs 4 miles. She has all her meeting away from anywhere that has food, doesn't take off her coat. Honestly she is certifiable.

When I went to HM there was a liquor store down the hill...it was delightful and super convenient.

years ago, when our daughter was but a tot, someone said something that stuck with me. transformative, really. she had high-school aged children at Trinity (holiday party being thrown by friends of ours who also had children that went to Trinity), and she said that at any gathering you could always tell the children who weren't allowed junk food, tv and computers. they were the ones watching tv, trying to access porn sites on computers, and inhaling 80% of the junk food.

balance, along with a healthy self-respect and a knowledge of health-related issues. and it doesn't hurt if you get off your lazy ass yourself and do something active with the young ones. the psychologist at our daughter's school talked about eating issues recently. she told us that the girls were mostly concerned with their MOTHER's eating habits, how little they seemed to eat. mothers, heal thyselves.

wise words aboutready... the really whorish girls in my school all didn't hang out and play spin the bottle... early on :)

Ahhh those were the days.... spin little bottle spin!

uwsmom... curves! curves! curves! yeah!

She is a nut, but I can agree somewhat with her message. My husband is a teacher and I have in the past commented that his school needs to come up with other ways to celebrate than with junk food for all of the many many occasions that they seem to come up with.

Honestly, I think it is the path of least resistance for many teachers and parents. Instead of coming up with interesting ways to interact with the kids, it is easier to present the students with plates of pizza and cupcakes than to organize an active celebration.

But to run away with the sprinkles? She is obviously in need of in-patient treatment.

forgot to add.... if I didn't want curves, i'd sleep w/ a man! doh!

lookingforhome... there should be a whole industry devoted to mini-sweets... 1/10 sized cupcakes ....

There are some really yummy vegan cupcakes out there. I'll buy a batch for the next celebration. I try not to deprive my kids. One kid eats her sweets very, very slowly and has tremendous self-restraint; only kid I know under 5 who can hoard Easter candy for 2 months and eat a little every day. The other kid, well, not so much. So I can't really leave them out, easily available because one kid WILL gobble it all up instantaneously. The other self-regulates. Yeah, it's hard to parent.

25+ bdays through the year can really add up. The problem is that one kid brings ccakes, the other kids want them for their bdays as well. I get ours made by a home baker, and I get her to make them smaller than the average humongous cupcake (which the kids can't finish anyway). Maybe this year, I'll ask her to make vegan ones.
I don't have an issue with the Me-ster's msg, but her methods are hmm, heavy-handed and she's so obviously self-aggrandizing.

LOL 67thSt - rock on! for some reason I have you pegged as greek....don't know why. gotta love a man who loves curves; my italian blood wouldn't allow anything but!

Whole Foods makes a very yummy vegan ginger cookie.

The other day I was telling my wife that I don't think they should take vending machines out of schools, but I do think each vending machine should have a scale and devise to measure BMI. If the kid's BMI is too high then they can't buy anything. If other kids are seen buying "the goods" and selling them to the fat kids, they both will be suspended. LOL

I agree that we have a huge problem with obesity in this country and like everyone else here I disagree with the way the MeMe is handling it, but I disagree more with the parents of fat kids. I find the behavior of parents with fat kids more offensive than MeMe's behavior.

We're allowing people to slowly kill themselves. Why? Don't we love them enough to make them stop.

PS --I also think we should stop giving food stamps to people who are obese. Clearly they don't need the food.
And I obviously think we should outlaw cigarettes.

Everyone is talking about vegan cup cakes as if they are much better. Ehere was an article, i think on cnn, that said something simple. Vegan/Organic <> Healthy. You can use plenty of "vegan/organic" sugar to make the cup cakes 10 times more caloric than the regular ones. making them smaller with less icing is the way to have the kids get their cup cakes and not gain 5 lbs during every birthday.

"We're allowing people to slowly kill themselves. Why? Don't we love them enough to make them stop."

Parents, it's that simple. Self absorbed, worthless parents. Remember, there is no such thing as a bad 4yr old, only bad parents of 4yr olds. Behind every rude, dishonest, fat child there is a worthless parent. They are the root cause of problems in todays schools, prisons and hospitals.

patient, you have it quite backwards.

4 year olds are responsible for controlling and managing their parents' behavior. And most are quite good at it, having them wrapped around their little fingers. But a few fail completely. Don't blame the parents -- they're just doing whatever they can get away with when and where they're able.

Oh, and you forgot jolly and prosperous.

patient09 - you're right
alanhart - you're wrong

I have a 4 year old right now - I'm in charge - she tries to manipulate, control, and manage us but we win. Parenting is work, many are not skilled enough to pull it off -that's why the most successful times in our country occurred when child raising was more the responsibility of a community than a single parent.

http://www.tonniesminis.com/

BEST mini cupcakes in NYC....and perfect for portion control!