Another fantastic waterfront park opens in LIC

Queensbridge is the worst of the worst - it's the Cabrini Green of NY. THA HOOD.

The police arrested 59 people on Wednesday in a massive drug sweep of the Queensbridge Houses in Long Island City, Queens, the police said.

Officers recovered a cache of weaponry and related items, including a .38-caliber and a .45-caliber handgun, a Tech-9 machine gun and a bulletproof vest; about 138 small plastic bags of crack cocaine; 400 loose pieces of crack; 350 vials of heroin; and 100 bags of marijuana, the police said.

Officials said the sweep ended a seven-month investigation into violence and drug operations at Queensbridge, a 26-building complex that is the largest public housing project in the city. It has 3,142 apartments, according to the New York City Housing Authority.

All public housing blows - how could it not? It's run by the govt. NYC has spent $6 billion in recent years "repairing" decrepit public housing. It should all be blown up and replaced with privately owned dwellings.

"JuiceMan - search deeply into your memory and you will recall that my rent increase was $90 a month, which did not make either a move or further negotiation necessary - it was negligible."

12 months ago you said your rent was $4500, you said in this thread that it is now $4700. $4700 - $4500 doesn't equal $90, even in dental school. You have been beating your chest about negotiating really hard on rents and you yourself took a $200 increase. Remind me not to ask you for help buying a car.

Seems to me that the Queensbridge Houses - 1006 41st Ave, Long Island City, New York - are just a stone's throw from these new "FANTASTIC WATERFRONT PARKS" that LICC is discussing.

Public housing didn't used to suck, BSex - my father grew up in the Queensbridge Houses. Once upon a time they were safe. My cousins and aunts and uncles moved out in the 70's, when it got very dangerous.

And stayed that way.

So - LICC: you claim that the Queensbridge Houses - the largest public housing project in North America, larger by far than anything even in Mexico City - don't affect your precious neighborhood, yet the Penn South complex, peopled by retired garment industry little old ladies - ruins Chelsea?

How?

And how can Astoria and the Triboro Bridge not be part of LIC when you yourself have stated that the boundary is Hazen Street?

And best of the best: you can swim in the Hudson and even land a plane on it. Whereas you can walk on the Newtown Creek, or light it on fire.

JuiceMan, I don't pinch pennies like you do, or hoard Krugerrands, like the late, great malraux. My rent was formerly just above $4,500 a month, and now it is just below $4,700 a month.

Far less than one week's pay.

Whenever I walk past any of the public housing on the LES, it makes me want to puke. Those buildings look like minimum security prisons. And decrepit ones at that. Give me a renovated ex-tenement building any day. At least those have some character.

The Queensbridge Houses are not near the waterfront parks or the new condos near the parks. They are probably a brisk 20 minute walk, and on the other side of the Queensboro bridge. They have no effect on the Hunters Point area at all.

Did you even read my comments above? People who live in the area never refer to Astoria as LIC, and vice versa. That would be as ignorant as someone who lives in Brooklyn telling someone else that they live in Long Island. Yes, Brooklyn is on the same island that is geographically called Long Island, but for reference purposes, Long Island is Nassau and Suffolk counties, and is not Brooklyn.

Newtown Creek runs all the way through Maspeth. What does that have to do with the condos off the East River in Long Island City?

I never said the Penn South complex ruins Chelsea. I said that it is crummy, and that in addition there are two large NYCHA housing projects right in the middle of Chelsea. You can draw your own conclusions.

steve and BS sure proved InFamous' point. steve is even being considerably more ignorant than usual today, but if wants to keep showing everyone how much of an old, bitter, ignorant man he is, by all means I hope he keeps posting.

"My rent was formerly just above $4,500 a month, and now it is just below $4,700 a month."

How in the hell does that translate to a $90 increase?

"They are probably a brisk 20 minute walk"

I see. Only thieves in Chelsea can run, I guess. Or walk.

"on the other side of the Queensboro bridge"

They are indeed.

"People who live in the area never refer to Astoria as LIC"

You did. You said the border is Hazen Street, and Hazen Street is in Astoria. Have you looked on a map recently?

"What does that have to do with the condos off the East River in Long Island City?"

Newtown Creek is right next to those gorgeous parks you gloat about. Need I post a link to a map for you to see?

"I said that it is crummy."

Actually, had you ever been there you would see that it is meticulously landscaped and quite beautiful.

"there are two large NYCHA housing projects right in the middle of Chelsea."

They're not at all in the "middle" of Chelsea. The seminary is in the "middle" of Chelsea. And altogether they amount to less than half the Queensbridge Houses, with a much lower crime rate. The Robert Fulton Houses are surrounded by some of the most expensive real estate in the world.

I guess so are the Queensbridge Houses, if you could sell the bridge.

My rent hasn't gone up in 2-3 years - I think my landlord either likes me or is afraid I'll leave. It's gone up a total of about 16% over the course of 7 years [from $1900 to $2200] - I can't complain about that.

"My rent was formerly just above $4,500 a month, and now it is just below $4,700 a month."

You pay 56,400 a year on rent? Omg! I assume you've been paying rent the last 5 years too.
How much are you in the hole? 200K?

"How much are you in the hole?"

Absolutely nothing. In fact, I'm about $500,000 in the black, as it would have cost me twice that much to buy.

How long have you been renting?

InFamous - how much in interest payments have you handed over to your loan shark (sorry, banking institution) over the years on whatever inflated mortgages you've taken out to buy overpriced RE?

steve's equivalent apartment would cost $1.3-$1.5 million? Because that would cost twice as much as $4500 per month to rent.

Newtown Creek is well south of the parks. You can't even see Newtown Creek from the parks. Why do you insist on making dumb comments?

The Penn South complex is "beautiful"? Really? When is your next appointment with the eye doctor?

InFamous, most people that complain have even admitted that they don't know and/or have never been to Hunters Point. This isn't really about how nice a neighborhood may be, it is about people trying to defend where they live. If I were reading this post as an outsider I would actually take away that I should go an see LIC for myself before making a decision because everyone is contradicting each other on this thread. In the end, the place will speak for itself.

I personally love LIC ... much more specifically: Hunters Point. I would choose it over Chelsea or the UES. But I also realize that there are plenty of people out there that would argue the opposite.

The bottom line is that most of the people trying to bash LIC on this board are not qualified to do so. They have never lived or considered living here. If they have (like Steve) then they were visiting people in Revenswood which really has nothing to do with Hunters point and shows the lack of knowledge of the area (distance-wise it's like comparing Chelsea to alphabet city (actually Chelsea may be closer to alphabet city then Hunters Point is to Ravenswood ... I mean Hunters point is across from the upper 30's/lower 40s while ravenswood is across from the mid 80's). If we want to have a real discussion about neighborhoods then lets compare similar geographic locations and start talking about Hunters Point vs. LIC. LIC is a ridiculously large group of smaller neighborhoods that have been lumped together.

It is blatantly clear that everyone here supporting LIC on this thread is talking about hunters Point: the small area from 46th avenue and borden avenue, west of Jackson avenue ending at the east river.

So just as Steve is getting specific about his boundaries, let's also get specific about ours. It would appear that Steve's poor grandparents lived well outside of the area that everyone here is describing and therefore most/all of his comments are irrelevant

Tenemental has at least taken the time to bike around and visit the area although admitted that he did not get to see everything and was unaware of the boundaries. Most of the places that he described visiting were outside of the immediate Hunters point area that I just described.

anyhow, everyone can have an opinion but at least have an opinion based on actual knowledge.

either way, I propose that those of you trying to defend Hunters point start referring to it as such in the future just for clarity.

LICC, you're a joke.

The article you post says: "the new six-acre section of Gantry Plaza State Park makes its public debut today"

You say: "Newtown Creek is well south of the parks."

FYI, Gantry Plaza State Park is on 49th Avenue. The Newtown Creek is on 53rd Avenue. 4 short blocks away.

Here's a map.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=YVw&q=long+island+city+map&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=rahTStPMHMKGtgfi4YCiCA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1

And here's the description of what runs through the Newtown Creek: "The creek has no natural waterflows. Its outgoing flow of 14,000 million gallons/year consists of sewage overflow, rainwater runoff, raw domestic sewage, and industrial wastewater. Being estuarine, the creek is largely stagnant. Since there is no current in the creek, sludge has congealed into a 15-foot thick layer of “black mayonnaise” on the creekbed."

If you didn't know, the East River is not a "river" - it is a tidal flow. Which means that the direction of the water changes with the tide. So whatever manages to flow out of the creek manages to float right up to Gantry Plaza State Park - which is just 4 streets away.

Unless you come up with a fantastical new claim....

steve, according to the map you posted, what you call 4 short blocks is about half a mile away. Just use the distance legend on the map.

You are such a clown.

Stevejhx,

Looking at the map. The creek starts at about 20 something street in reference to Manhattan. The park starts at 40 something street. That's a good 15-20 city blocks my friend.

4 short blocks? Wow, i'm convinced you're a nut.

"steve, according to the map you posted, what you call 4 short blocks is about half a mile away. Just use the distance legend on the map."

My exact thoughts.
I wonder who's he trying to fool.

"Looking at the map. The creek starts at about 20 something street in reference to Manhattan. The park starts at 40 something street. That's a good 15-20 city blocks my friend"

and then immediately curves up and hits what would be a continuation of like 37th.

If you're going diagonally, then that is a bad measure. Because 15-20 blocks off angle isn't 15-20 blocks anymore. its like talking a foot ruler, angling it just off the ground, and then counting.... 2 inches will "measure" 12.

Way I see it, creek seems to hit 38-39 if you "extend" them from manhattan. Bottom of the writing for the park is 41.

or, an easier way.... 53rd ave is the last street before the overpass. Park hits 50th ave.

"what you call 4 short blocks is about half a mile away"

So pollution doesn't travel 0.5 miles?

Did you know that the distance from 14th Street to 23rd Street in Manhattan is about 1/2 mile? I guess no one has ever walked between those two streets.

And I'm a clown? Face it, LICC:

a) You don't know the boundaries of your own neighborhood (Hazen Street?)
b) The largest (and one of the most dangerous) public housing projects in the world is just a mile from your 'hood.
c) Your 'hood lies about 2000 feet from one of the most polluted sites in the solar system.
d) It's bounded by one of the noisiest rail yards anywhere.
e) There isn't a even a grocery store or drug store anywhere around there.
f) It's got very good views of where you REALLY want to live: MANHATTAN.

I think the atmosphere on Venus is safer than Long Island City's on a day with southerly winds. I'll refrain from making Uranus jokes.

Infamous - you're as ignorant as LICC: "That's a good 15-20 city blocks my friend."

Uptown / downtown in Manhattan there are 20 blocks to the mile along the grid. There is no standard east / west, however.

I'm not trying to fool you. You beat me to it.

Did I forget the pollution from the LIE - the world's longest parking lot?

I think I did....

Aren't you a few blocks from Hudson River too and all those super sites in New Jersey.

thats why the good real estate in manhattan is in the middle!

And aren't you 1 block from Westside highway and all the traffic and noise of the city?

The real question is, why would anybody who can afford to live in Manhattan choose to live in Queens instead? It's a no-brainer to choose Manhattan.

BTW, Queens ain't very pretty, but if you've ever been to China, then Queens looks like Utopia in comparison.

Nope, InF. I'm between 6th and 7th Avenues, next to a cemetery.

I'm far from the projects and the water.

Unlike LICC, who abuts both.

I'm still trying to figure out how $4700 - $4500 = $90. This is the same guy that says it is twice as expensive to buy than to rent. Hey steve, anymore man boob math?

"I'm still trying to figure out how $4700 - $4500 = $90"

I'm sure you are, JuiceMan. I "rounded." Here's what that means:

"expressed in convenient units rather than exactly, for example to the nearest whole number"

Did they teach you that in dental school?

This is why steve is the town clown on these boards, spouting off about things he knows nothing about. The mouth of where Newtown Creek meets the East River is about the same distance to Manhattan as to the middle of the Gantry Plaza parks. I guess the Newtown Creek is polluting all of the Manhattan waterfront too, according to steve.

For someone with two large NYCHA projects in his own neighborhood, you sure like to harp on these ones in LIC. They do not affect Hunters Point at all. You can keep fantasizing that they somehow affect the quality of life of Hunters Point, but ask any resident and they'll tell you that if someone didn't tell you about them, you wouldn't even know they were there. You even admitted above that you don't think they affect the neighborhood.

What rail yard? There is an LIRR yard on Borden Avenue, but no trains are there at night or on weekends, and unless you are near the yard when the trains are there, what's the problem? The west side of Manhattan has rail yards.

There is a great big food market right in the heart of Hunters Point, a huge Duane Reade, several very good groceries along Vernon Boulevard, and a Met Food under construction right now.

The LIE? That's a stretch. Traffic congestion in Manhattan is much worse than anything in LIC.

The views of Manhattan are outstanding. You seem to think this is a bad thing?

The circus will be in town soon to keep you busy steve.

"The views of Manhattan are outstanding. You seem to think this is a bad thing?"

Is it better to be in the penthouse looking out over the commoners, or to be one of the commoners looking up at the penthouse? Take your pick.

"expressed in convenient units rather than exactly, for example to the nearest whole number"

Oh ok. Bravo on the rent negotiation. You really nailed that one.

If you were to use a rounded number, why wouldn't you say $100 instead of $90. steve's bizarro world . . .

"Is it better to be in the penthouse looking out over the commoners, or to be one of the commoners looking up at the penthouse? Take your pick."

ha.

LICC, did you know that in Windsor, England, the views of the castle are marvelous, as well.

"I guess the Newtown Creek is polluting all of the Manhattan waterfront too, according to steve."

Not according to me, LICC - according to scientists:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V6N-4B1X4KV-3&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=950788700&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=001c2ee333cb3fbb1fa107f6676df6ab

Heavy metal contamination. It causes mental dysfunction. Who would have guessed corresponding with you, LICC?

"The mouth of where Newtown Creek meets the East River is about the same distance to Manhattan as to the middle of the Gantry Plaza parks."

And the day rivers flow sideways from the right bank to the left is the day we have to worry about it.

"You even admitted above that you don't think they affect the neighborhood."

I actually don't. Yet you continue to insist that Penn South is a project, and that the 2 small projects on 10th Avenue somehow affect the quality of life on 6th Avenue. They don't.

However, I stand by the pollution - I would no more move close to the Newtown Creek than I would to the much smaller and less polluted Gowanus Canal.

"The west side of Manhattan has rail yards."

It does - and that's why I don't live there.

"What rail yard?"

It's pretty hard to believe you missed it, or the trains zipping by every day.

Somebody needs to think up a term to describe the angry outer borough types like LICC who secretly wish they could live in Manhattan - "bitter outer borougher" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but you get the idea. Any suggestions?

Growing up, it was pretty simple, we called it "Bridge & Tunnel". Of course, now that seems to refer more to New Jersey than anything. But, I agree there is a new thing here the pee wee herman "I meant to do that". I know a few folks who did it for admitted financial reasons, then changed the story after a few months.

How about bitter bridge crosser?

How about Poopen-Shafter?

How about "subprime Manhattan renter"

I don't think "prime LIC" - oxymoron that it is - comes close to Subprime Manhattan, Juicy. Do you?

And LICC INVESTED in Long Island City, and even changed his name to LICC. Now that's DEDICATION!

"swimmer"

Not LIC, I was talking about the group of posters on this board that rent expensive apartments in marginal Manhattan neighborhoods. They also happen to be really poor negotiators and struggle with math.

"manhattan-adjacent"

How about "Pay Double in Rent to Live in a Shoebox in Manhattan"

"erentile disfunction"

> "Pay Double in Rent to Live in a Shoebox in Manhattan"

LOL.

Isn't that what the people who live in Kansas, say, too?

Lets just call it what it is...

"jealous"

Don't worry JM, if steve's rent goes up $200 again, in his mind he will just round it down to $50 and feel fine about it.

"erentile" is not a word, Juicy - you'll have to 'splain.

"How about "Pay Double in Rent to Live in a Shoebox in Manhattan""

How about, "Lose your shirt in a sh*thole?"

Oh! That would be a poopen-shafter!

new tagline

"Long Island City. Not quite as bad as roosevelt island - we have *two* Duane Reades - but a little further".

How about: "Blown a Ton of Money Renting for Over 10 Years"

newer taglines

"Upper East Side, where 70 is the new 50"

or

"Upper East Side, I like them wrinkled and blue"

The level of LICC's stupidity never ceases to amaze me:

"That is like someone in Brooklyn saying they live in Long Island, because Brooklyn is part of the same island as Nassau and Suffolk counties. They may be technically correct, but they sound stupid because no one in Brooklyn considers themselves residents of Long Island, which refers to Nassau and Suffolk."

Where does he live? LONG ISLAND CITY. Since Long Island City is in Queens County, not Nassau or Suffolk, by LICC's logic, Long Island City is not on Long Island.

Where, then, could it be?

> "Blown a Ton of Money Renting for Over 10 Years"

"Long Island City - only if you don't know math"

ROTFL.

"Chelsea, this ain't London"

> "Upper East Side, where 70 is the new 50"
> "Upper East Side, I like them wrinkled and blue"

Oh my god, of course... how could I miss this...

"sour grapes"

"LIC, making the most of toxic waste"

"East Village, where the meatheads come to dance"

"Tenemental has at least taken the time to bike around and visit the area although admitted that he did not get to see everything and was unaware of the boundaries. Most of the places that he described visiting were outside of the immediate Hunters point area that I just described."

Holy crap, you guys are still going. I thought that "hot chicks" tangent a while back might build some common ground.

I agree that conversations about Hunters Point and the rest of LIC could, and often should, be very different. Unfortunately, if you look at past LIC threads on SE (not to mention broker hype on Curbed, etc.) you'll see proclamations of the incredible change that would encompass all of LIC, that Hunters Point was just the start, and that the rest would soon be a whole new neighborhood. But, of course, LIC is huge, those changes will happen over an extremely long timeline, if ever, and the majority of new developments are not in Hunters Point. Just look at the SE New Developments map.

I think the sudden change in the neighborhood past the Vernon/Jackson subway station creates some value challenges for Hunters Point, but that's a more nuanced conversation, part of the risk any homebuyer should consider. Gantry Park, I've said before, is very nice, and I'll be checking out the new parts of it.

"LIC - if you can't be where you want to be, at least be able to look at it".

"East Village, where the meatheads come to dance"

"LIC... and when the market recovers, some day, and the rest of the duane reades come, we'll finally get our own meatheads!"

"LIC, making the most of toxic waste"

LMAO!

How about: Long Island City - Where Grunge Meets Dinge!

LIC - slightly nicer than Chernobyl!

"LIC - live where you can see where you wish you lived!"

OK, I'm done now.

"Almost hoboken".

tenemental - I agree completely. It's a stupid arguement to make to say that LIC is all good or all bad. Most of it, IMO, is not so hot. I have no idea what people were thinking when they bought at places like the Crescent Club, the Star Tower, Verve, or Arris Lofts for that matter. However they may be on the inside, the surrounding neighborhood is not that great. Maybe in 10 years, but not anytime soon. Again, I'm someone who is looking forward to moving to Hunter's Point next month, but I am realistic on the state of the area. I think that Hunter's Point still has some growth potential once the economy gets moving again. The others areas have a long way to go.

Hey Bsex - that's my line!

"by LICC's logic, Long Island City is not on Long Island.

Where, then, could it be?"

steve, Kansas City is not in Kansas either; this is some pretty juvenile stuff you guys have got going. At least JuiceMan's taglines are funny.

The Upper East Side, where Madonna's brought the average age down to double-digits!

"steve, Kansas City is not in Kansas either; this is some pretty juvenile stuff you guys have got going. At least JuiceMan's taglines are funny."

Difference is, Steve is right...

Britannica -

"Long Island
island, New York, United States
Main
island in the Atlantic Ocean that comprises the southeasternmost part of New York state, U.S. The island lies roughly parallel to the southern shore of Connecticut, from which it is separated to the north by Long Island Sound. Long Island’s western end forms part of the harbour of New York City. The island has four counties; from west to east they are Kings, Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk.
"

> steve, Kansas City is not in Kansas either

Error total up to 1.5...

Kansas City, KS is in fact in Kansas. Kansas City, MO is not.... and its all one metro area.

> "The Upper East Side, where Madonna's brought the average age down to double-digits!"

"LIC... still wishing ANYBODY that mattered moved there".

granted, I think sour grapes covered that one, too.

so I guess that leaves us with...

"Williamsburg... we have, uh, Norah Jones"

I think she lives in Cobble Hill, but thanks for trying. I don't think many people care all that much about which celebrities live in their neighborhoods. Unless you're, you know, a tourist.

"Kansas City, KS is in fact in Kansas."

Of course you'd do this. When people say Kansas City, they usually mean Kansas City, MO, which is much bigger. When people say Long Island, they usually mean Nassau and Suffolk. That's the point, capisci?

> I don't think many people care all that much about which celebrities live in their neighborhoods.

- guy who started naming celebrities

ROTFL!

> Of course you'd do this

Prove you wrong. Yes, it is pretty easy.

And London Terrace isn't in London.

No doubt.

But Long Island City is, in fact, on Long Island. If LICC cares to dispute that, he needs to point to a map.

In New York, people refer to Manhattan as "The City." That does not make the Bronx any less part of "the city.

In London "The City" is the financial district - the City of London, per se, rather than a borough.

Guatemala City is in Guatemala.

Mexico City is in Mexico.

Salt Lake City is on Salt Lake.

River City is in trouble.

And so is LICComment with his stupid comments.

"- guy who started naming celebrities"

Please, I was merely poking fun at the UES, but apparently you didn't get it.

"Prove you wrong. Yes, it is pretty easy."

You like to say this, but continue to fail to tell me what it is I got wrong. Nice work Eddie!

> Please, I was merely poking fun at the UES, but apparently you didn't get it.

Yes, because I, uh, wasn't poking fun at WB?

Oh my LORD... hypocrisy much?

> You like to say this, but continue to fail to tell me what it is I got wrong

That you have trouble reading the corrections doesn't mean you weren't told. Read the thread more carefully.

Here we go again... I have no problem with poking fun at WB; I just stated that I don't think most people really care about celebrities living in their neighborhood. And I have no trouble reading the thread - I referred to Kansas City being in Missouri. You're a special one.

There is a Kansas City in Kansas. And a Brooklin in Brazil. That doesn't make them the Real McCoy. (Even if KC, MO is the bigger city.)

No one doubts that LIC is getting better, but it will always be hobbled by very large projects and an industrial history of severe contamination. Hunters Point is isolated by the LIE and the Queensboro Bridge, and they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

So the point is that during a downturn like this LIC is going to be hit the worst. In a sense it is like Roosevelt Island: alone.

And there are so many neighborhoods in MANHATTAN that have yet to be developed, that when prices fall they will be gentrified first. I hate to say the LES b/c of petrzitz, but it has lots more going for it than LIC ever will.

Geographically, Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island, but colloquially, no one references Brooklyn or Queens as Long Island. To argue otherwise just shows you are ignorant. If you ask someone from Brooklyn or Queens where they live, they would never in a million years say "Long Island."
Why does steve insist on continuing to say the stupidest things about LIC? Hunters Point is getting more and more popular, has great new places to live, has a great, young, happy crowd of people moving in, has spectacular views and waterfront, great new parks, and 5 minute commutes to midtown and easy access to the LIE and BQE. steve, the clown that he is, of course says this is a terrible area with nothing going for it.

You're trying to argue that Long Island City isn't on Long Island, and I'M ignorant?

That's grand.

"Hunters Point is getting more and more popular"

So did Alcatraz when they turned it into a tourist destination.

And now it's not Long Island City anymore (since that would be on Long Island), but "Hunters Point".

The point that you would hunt from is the Newtown Creek

Ah, to pay for a water view!

You're trying to argue that Long Island City isn't on Long Island, and I'M ignorant?

I never tried to argue that LIC is not on Long Island, and yes, you are ignorant.

LICC: "Geographically, Brooklyn and Queens are on Long Island, but colloquially, no one references Brooklyn or Queens as Long Island"

LICC: "I never tried to argue that LIC is not on Long Island"

Hmm.

Salt Lake City is not on Salt Lake, but it doesn't matter; it's close.

I wouldn't want to live at Qns Plaza, but for some people it will be great,
only steps from 7, N, R, G, E, F trains, and walking distance across the
bridge from 59th & 2nd.

I don't know how long it will be before LIC is a place people love
and rave about, but by that point it will be very expensive.

tenemental - "Lowery, are you sure you have your date right for Domino?"

No, not sure at all. Is it possible it was still operational when I
was in awe of how ugly and decayed it was? I actually wished I could
get a big wide open loft space in it, but even in today's market I'm
sure I could nver afford that. Just for the record, I was not impressed
by Wmburg ever, but I need to do a tour now to see what everyone's
talking about.

Yeah, Inwood Hill Park's view across to Spuyten Duyvil is awesome.
Here's another maligned neighborhood - Inwood. Yes, it has an
outer boro feel, as though it's not in Manhattan. But check out
that wooded park! The trails underneath the Parkway and bridge have amazing views.

nyc10022
1 day ago
ignore this person
I love summer!

Those floral print mini dresses. Yowzah.

Of course, I am also very partial to the formal yet slutty atire on 6th avenue in the 50s. Got to wear the skirt suit, but of course, unbutton the blouse as low as you can!

Please nyc10022, our collective image of you is that you walk around wearing a whole body condom to keep out the "germs" as well as a pocket protector. We do not view you as a potentially reproducing male and would prefer if you would keep language like the above to yourself. Stick to geeky arguments about if 4th Avenue is in Park Slope, or which high school had more Ivy League kids, or if the stock market went down today how that correlates to renting vs. buying math.

Thank you!