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Buying with tenant in place?

Started by e76
about 17 years ago
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Is there a specific way to discount the value of a unit with a tenant in place or is it strictly qualitative? I'm trying to put some pro formas together. Thanks
Response by The_President
about 17 years ago
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If the tenant is rent controlled, then you should get at least a 20% discount, if not more. If it's a market rate tenant, I am not sure if you will get a discount since you can boot the tenant once the lease is up.

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Response by columbiacounty
about 17 years ago
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hey el jefe---why 20%? why not 27% or 18%? and...a discount from what?

OP--not enough facts presented to formulate intelligent answer.

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Response by The_President
about 17 years ago
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discount from the asking price dimwit.

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Response by columbiacounty
about 17 years ago
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so...if i'm asking $3 million for a studio with a tenant, you would recommend offering $2.4 million?

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Response by The_President
about 17 years ago
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if you were asking $3 million for a studio, I would offer you a free cab ride to Bellevue.

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Response by ChasingWamus
about 17 years ago
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Considering that tennant's children can assume the lease, I think a 20% discount is wildly overpaying. You can be stuck with an apartment where the rent doesn't even cover maintenance, an apartment you will never get any value out of.

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Response by The_President
about 17 years ago
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that's not entirely true ChasingWamus. We do not know if the tenant is rent controlled or market rate.

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Response by The_President
about 17 years ago
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if the tenant is market rate, then you can boot them at the end of the lease. And if they don't want to go, then just double their rent and I doubt they will be around too much monger.

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Response by ChasingWamus
about 17 years ago
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You are right, I thought the thread was about a rent stabilized tenant. I have seen apartments for sale with rent stabilized tenants asking for a 25% discount, which seems crazy.

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Response by NWT
about 17 years ago
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e76, this might apply: http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/12361-why-buy-an-apt-wrent-controlled-tenant

Whole different set of possibilities if you're talking about one of those yokel-speculator's-delight new condos.

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Response by e76
about 17 years ago
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i was referring to market rent units (i have no experience with rent controlled units and they scare the living hell out of me)

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Response by leejames
about 17 years ago
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If you are getting a market rate then there's no difference from if there is no tenant. Unless you need a place to live, in which case don't bother.

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Response by ab_11218
about 17 years ago
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You should consider if you plan to live there once the tenant's lease is up.

If yes, then with 30% down, the mortgage and maintenance should be covered.

If no, with the same 30% down and consider that the is a good chance that the rent will be down 10-20%. Then see if mortgage and maintenance will be covered and you should have some left over.

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