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11 fifth Avenue - The Brevoort: Local Law 11 Compliance

Started by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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Any have info re: scaffold erected around 11 Fifth Ave in the last 2 weeks? Is this Local Law 11 related? Scope of project? Cost? Special assessements announced to cover costs? Projected time to completion?
Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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Anyone?

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Response by manhattanfox
almost 17 years ago
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Response by craigwasserman
almost 17 years ago
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They are replacing all the windows with new frames, tracks and glass. All a/c units will now be through the wall, with aesthetically improved grills. It is a combination of local law 11 compliance, window replacement, and an overall updating for the facade. All a/c units and grills will be flush with the wall. There are no special assessments, it is already budgeted out of current monthly maintenance charges, and it should be completed by the end of the year. There is also a fitness center being planned for the lobby level.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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I'm glad they're fighting against the "green" movement of 2007 by requiring through-the-wall air -- by far the least-efficient form of cooling there is.

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Response by craigwasserman
almost 17 years ago
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The required units have the highest efficiency rating on the market today. Through the wall a/c do not function differently than through the window a/c, all else equal, (cooling capacity etc.) they will utilize the same amount of power. All the units comply with the new National Energy Policy as stated in ASHRAE Standard 90.1.

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Response by JEF
over 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2008

Any update on this project? What is expected completion date? When will scaffolding come down?

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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craigwasserman, through-wall AC can dissipate heat through one side, while window ACs can do so through five sides. Moreover, through-wall ACs suck in the hot air that was just expelled, because it has only one side to do both.

Are you saying the required units have EERs of 11 or so, which last I checked was the highest rating available for window units?

I believe through-wall units are compared with one another, rather than with all types of individual cooling units (including window units), so "highest efficiency rating on the market today" might not mean much.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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EER's are over-rated as a means to determine the true "goodness" of units. In most cases, high EER units obtained that EER at the sacrifice of dehumidification. So you end up with humid air, which makes you run the units more/at a lower temperature.

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Response by calypso
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2009

The window replacement project and brick appointing are going on simultaneously. The windows are slated to be done sometime in Nov/Dec. The green roof work on the north side is also complete.

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Response by JEF
over 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2008

What about the repointing? Any time line on that? How about the scaffolding coming down?

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Response by Zerocool86
about 15 years ago
Posts: 19
Member since: May 2011

Hi,

Anyone have any info about this bldg-good or bad? Am considering an apartment here and I just want to know what you think.

Thanks

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