If this was a bar, who would the regulars be?

licc
10022
w81st
patient09
mimi
spinnaker
bjw
UD
rivresider
rhino
sidelinesitter
evnyc
jasonkyle
marco

how could i have forgotten dwayne_pipe?

there are many others.

yes i just thought of dwayne-pipe too

I think the long-time bartender would be 30-yrs_in_RE. Steve would be arguing an accounting distiction with someone. I'd be very drunk and angry. Urbandigs would break up fights but not sure that would make him the actual bouncer.

Would Alpo trying to change the name on his fake ID to Dea President, after having his first one confiscated?

I would be naked

I would be drunk and startign trouble

wonderinfant would be drinking shirley temples.

I'd be the guy always at the same table drinking tonic water and chatting for hours with my opinionated fun friends--all listed above.

I picture myself out back sitting by the trash cans, missing a shoe, ranting about Obama 'Death Panels'.
FIGHT THE POWER........*hic*

I would be quiet until my third beer. Then I would become decidedly opinionated about everything.

Speaking of bars, can we do another Streeteasy meetup? That was fun!

Having recently purchased I will either be working behind the bar skimming from the register or on the other side sitting alone in a cloud of plaster dust. BTW we just breezed through the board interview yesterday without a single question about our package or weird lives.

Congratulations, spinnaker!

So if you're the bartender, are you doing buybacks?

Thanks ev. SE crew buybacks for sure (double buybacks for bulls -and waning bears)

i would be the newbie, cranking rock & roll on the jukebox and dancing glamma-rously

I would be there too with my many personalities. columbiacounty would be suspicious of me. He would be suspicious of me too.

I'd be getting schooled on Scotch by Noah and cigars by Kylewest (there's a patio in the back), offering suggestions from the extensive microbrew list and swinging by in the afternoon for an espresso.

agent rachel could measure shots. we know they'd be WAY over full. would rufus be allowed in when he visits from chicago?

Wow -- I'd love to see the sitcom! Cheers2!

Y'all would be shocked to find out how handsome I am.

Don't go to bars, sorry.

spin, congrats. cheapskate that i am i nevertheless tip quite well, especially after the first drink, so you would be wise to serve me often.

I am still on summer holiday, back in mid-summer.

Bjw would be the one getting ganged on the pool table

p09, do you have an out of the office auto-reply for SE? it's after mid-summer.

petro, you wouldn't be there because you're a mean-spirited coward. and you'd be far too busy with your delightful slums.

Sorry JuiceMan, I didn't notice you. You were naked.

What about the old-time favorites: spunky, malraux, verain and their ilk? I miss them!

sorry, mid-september. summer brain waves

me, luciato too!

Oldbuyers and exit2?

stevejhx, I thought it was considered know n that rhino was just verain?

Nope I am only me.

petrfitz, actually many of us would be hustling you at the pool table. You know, so we could pay you 50% of our take-home with some of your money. I think w67th would be the guy trying to convince everyone to go to the stripclub at 2am.

"Don't go to bars, sorry."
Steve, what if we let you get a Shirley Temple with a paper umbrella, a sword with maraschino cherries AND a mermaid with a pineapple chunk, AND a whole orange slice on the side of the glass?

Perfitz is Cliff Claven.

This thread is nice.

Actually, the more I think about it, Steve is Cliff Claven. Perfitz lives at home with his mom and tells tall tales, but steve is really very cliff.

Noah is Sam Malone.

SteveF (with bjw a close second) is Dianne.

I think I'm Carla.

Bill, I believe this is killing me.

81 is a real estate novelist
Who never had time for this strife
yet he's teaching Fitzpity, whose investments are shitty
And probably will be for life

and Alan will be doing slam poetry for our entertainment. ;)

alanhart, that sounds disgusting: I hate maraschino cherries!

Cliff Claven? Sorry, no clue.

I'm the absentee owner - I'll show my face once in awhile whilst watching from my 2 way mirror

[side conversation]
ccc, how are your tomatoes doing? I have tomatoes out the wazzoo, and I don't even know what a wazzoo is. I'm practically eagerly awaiting late blight. But not really.

Steve, how about GREEN maraschino cherries?

Also, see http://epguides.com/Cheers/ for Cliff. But Norm is the world-recognized most regular barstool-sitter in that teevee series.

Watch more teevee.

not me

Then you can be an offstage character's disembodied voice, but you don't get out of being a regular at that bar.

admin

i've carefully built a reputation over the years of not belonging to anything

Then admin, if you don't belong to anything, where does your reputation circulate?

in my head

As long as you're happy, I'm happy.

We've already had a meet-the-flesh thing at a bar. I'm up for something in September.

Oh, and P09, NWT, and steve/JM/petr had better show up.

Late september might be good. After the lure of the country/beach has become less alluring, the kids (to the extent that they are) are back in school, etc.

AH, if i were steve i'd want some plastic monkeys in the drinks too. if one has to drink shirley temples with wonderinfant one must be compensated.

AR: done. I'll post something in mid-Sept.

Alan - fall crop this year. I have about 50 on the vine and only plums and cherries ripening right now. I was using serenade but made the jump to evil daconil = I couldn't sleep at night thinking I would wake up to late blight. I wake up at 6:30 every morning to go out and inspect the leaves. It's a money pit! What have been your best tomatoes this year?

My heirloom tomatoes are fine. Seem remarkably resilient to blight. Herbs (basil, oregano, rosemary, okay) but I had to buy seedlings this year instead of starting from seed.

cherry tomatoes doing well

> Cliff Claven? Sorry, no clue.

Why doesn't it surprise me that steve doesn't know popular culture...

I like big tomatoes, mostly, and grow them on my balcony, in a community garden, and in my brother-in-law's roof garden. Definitely everything's late this year, but all is great -- no "-cides". Except for a few, I started everything from seed outdoors -- easy, and makes for the healthiest and happiest plants, but adds a week or two to pick-readiness. Ask me how if you want. No "cides" for me, even natural.

My favorites: Cherokee Purple (my favoritist), Marglobe, Blondkopfchen (an orange cherry), Kellogg's Breakfast.

I'm also growing Beefsteak, George Curtiss Spoon Tomato (size of peas, no flavor, prolific, pain in the ass, but amusing), Japanese Black Trifele, Magnum, Moonglow, Stupice, Clear Pink Early, Old German, Brandywine, Italian Market Wonder ... I'm probably forgetting a few.

I'm saving seeds from all of these, which I'm happy to share with you, CCC, nyc10023, others.

Okeh, back on topic:

The spam-freeper is practicing politics
And the newbies they slowly get homes
Oh, they're spilling red ink I call homeliness
So it's better to rent than to own

(with profuse apologies to B. Joel)

I started half of mine from seed too. I have about 8 cherokees on the vine now with one monster growing although it has a bruise I'll cut off on one side. Also growing sweetie cherries, yellow submarine, enchantments, applause, beefy boy, eva purple ball and carmello. The last 2 are doing just terribly. I won't grow them again. I only get 4-5 hours of western sun a day so that really limits my production - bummer but I'll certainly get enough for my family and some to share. I'll be doing half hybrid half heirloom next year as well. I only grow in the balcony in earthboxes. I just got 2 more boxes and planted spinach and lettuce seeds for the fall. Doing broccoli too - started the seeds indoors last week and I'll plant them out when the weather cools. My daughter is loving it. I may try Brandywine next year - maybe I'll take you up on the seed offer but I may just stick with Brandyboys which I hear are really good. When you have a very limited space like I do I look for productive tomatoes. Next year I have striped german, new big dwarf, goose creek, momotaro, matina, rutgers, hillbilly and cheetham's potato leaf - plus whatever is best from this year on my list which of course changes all the time. I have seeds too but not saved one if you want any - the sweeties are nice - small but not currant= an OP organic but not an heirloom

Alan: here's the real deal.
Billy Joel
"New York State of Mind"

Some folks like to get away
Take a holiday from the neighbourhood
Hop a flight to Miami Beach
Or to Hollywood
But I'm taking a Greyhound
On the Hudson River Line
I'm in a New York state of mind

I've seen all the movie stars
In their fancy cars and their limousines
Been high in the Rockies under the evergreens
But I know what I'm needing
And I don't want to waste more time
I'm in a New York state of mind

It was so easy living day by day
Out of touch with the rhythm and blues
But now I need a little give and take
The New York Times, The Daily News

It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
Don't care if it's Chinatown or on Riverside
I don't have any reasons
I've left them all behind
I'm in a New York state of mind

It was so easy living day by day
Out of touch with the rhythm and blues
But now I need a little give and take
The New York Times, The Daily News

It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
Don't care if it's Chinatown or on Riverside
I don't have any reasons
I've left them all behind
I'm in a New York state of mind

Should I feel good or bad about not making the list?

neither, just overlooked.

a ton of people were left off. glamma's relatively new (but a quick study) and i'm relatively old (my brain is fried).

it may be fried, but is still sorta sexy!

hey! I'm finally at the top of some list!!!!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You guys are all so cute.

I guess I have to be the cool old lady who can still keep up with the boys. But my tomatoes all went down with LB, only the cherries made it. Up in the Hudson Valley, I can never get Brandywines to maturity before frost - it's always a race and I almost always lose. That wazoo, what ever it is, in my case is full of pickling cucumbers. Luckily my Ball jars and I are ready.

saraj should attend. she's in need of wild sex and attention. treat her right.

Hudson Valley seems to be LB Central. I've never grown Brandywine before, but none of mine seem anywhere near ripe yet, plus they have a reputation for falling off the vine before starting to blush. So unless they turn out to taste absolutely spectacular, they're off the list for next year.

I'm also growing Ramapo OP/dehybridized, and Box Car Willie (the latter is doing very little so far, so it's also out for next year).

admin, just what kind of bar is this?

It's a BOOZE bar, honey.

Trinity, I read a hint from a woman who lives w-a-y up in Maine who says that she leaves her tomatoes on the vine for as long as possible then puts them in a paper bag in her pantry to ripen & she uses them into the winter. Perhaps that will work for you?

alan, what's your absolute best loved, tomato-wise? It was my first try this year, started from the seedlings and am on my second crop. But made some uninformed choices about the taste. Advice?

drdrd - tried that. You can also pull up the whole vine and hang it upside down - tried that too. What you end up with is not the kind of sun-ripened taste you put so much time, money and effort into. Unless you don't have frost until Halloween, I wouldn't even bother with Brandywines. Also mortgage lifter (what a great name!) This year I stuck with Early Girls and cherries - the Early Girls were gorgeously heavy with fruit before it all turned grey. No idea how they taste.

I hope the bar has good music, but not too loud.

What do I have to do to be added to the list? Be honest.

I think the ripen off-vine thing only works once the tomato starts to "blush". The tomato-growing crazies/experts seem to agree that once that starts to happen, there's no flavor improvement by leaving them on the vine, and lots of bad things can happen by doing so. I'm only somewhat convinced that that's true, and usually don't pick until they're half-ripe.

I've only been doing this for a couple of years, and a good variety of heirlooms only this year. My one favorite by far is Cherokee Purple -- weirdly delicious, early, prolific. Marglobe has turned out to be a good quick-pick balcony choice -- delicious balanced tomatoey taste, also early and prolific, good small-medium size, red & round so as not to scare people, very little cat-facing, etc. And although I'm not crazy about cherry tomatoes, Blondkopfchen has proven to be tasty and prolific, and a nice interesting bright orange.

steve_cummings, you have to learn how to threadjack to totally totally off-topic (and often one-to-one) discussions involving only a few people who visit the site.

I'll look up Marglobe. Last night's storm was a doozy. My husband was outside on the balcony holding up the plants and getting sopped. I should have taken a picture. I only lost one tomato but the plants are all bent over - not a pretty sight. So far I've only eaten enchantments which are plums and my cherries - yellow and red. Now I followed the directions of the tomato forum and took some cherries off early -they never did taste as good as the ones I left on the vine to get fully red. At this point though I'll have lots of greens by frost time - when do we get our first frost in NYC usually? Maybe we'll meet up again and we can share the harvest - at our fictitious bar or another real one.

My balcony plants got bent over two storms ago, and I think were no worse last night. Not so Central Park, if you've seen the NYT article today. They blamed the wind, but I've never seen such dramatic lightning for such an extended time. It's still burned into my retinas.

I can give you real Marglobe seeds at the fictitious bar. Or you can get those and 5 others of your choice for the cost of three stamps, after learning about wintersowing and taking a little quiz, at http://www.wintersown.org/wseo1/YourChoiceTomatoSASE.html ... it's a horribly disorganized site from a woman who's a saint and a genius.

I use http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/66983/ to look up tomato reviews.

Steve_c - grow tomatoes!

A quiz!!!!!!! There is a big thread about wintersowing going on at garden web. What do you use as planters on your balcony and which way do you face. If I faced South I'd be rocking, but it's great to get any homegrown tomatoes in NYC right outside your door. Sounds like a great deal. I don't think I can WS bc I need every day I can bc of my limited sun. I already have a month added on to my DTM, but I can try it

I use 17" square planters from Lowes -- I think it works out to 8 gallons -- and stakes. And I rigged up a drip irrigation system, but I have to manually connect a reel-in type hose thingy to my bathroom sink each time, because I don't have plumbing on the balcony. South-facing, with no other building as tall for five blocks or so Manhattan south, and due south it's no buildings anywhere near this height for probably 15 blocks.

There's a whole separate WS forum at gardenweb, and Trudi D., who originated wintersowing in its current form, is very active there and on the tomato forum.I use cleaned-out quart yogurt containers, big holes drilled in the bottom, and then cut all but the outer ring away from the lid, fill halfway with moistened new potting soil, sow the seeds very shallowly, then put plastic wrap on the container and the lid-ring over that, then poke a few little knife-holes in the plastic wrap.

If you had to add a month to DTM this year only, I think it's just this year's cool spring, not the sun exposure.

W67, I'm shocked that you haven't chimed in on this thread yet. Shocked. Re: the bar, not the tomatoes.

Alanhart, will you be mine?

Who would w67 be? a standup comedian a la Lenny Bruce?
Noticed that 1 second after he posts he has his shrimp nemesis stepping on his toes? Mysterious...

alan/mimi et.al. (esp shrimpie, not)... been buzy... as a bee entertaining family... sorry they got first dibs on crazy 67th... : )

Thankfully the entire clan is leaving Friday... gotta sort out what's left in the bank.. run some errands.. .then be back at the bar.... : )

trinityparent, always! We can sit on the two barstools at the short end of the bar, and help each other back up from the floor after we fall off.

Seems like everyone's tomatoes got bent over like recent buyers.

I know this is supposed to be a bar so I'm supposed to say "bloody marys" but if any of you gardeners want to provide tomatoes for input I can provide gazpacho for output. I'm a Jane Brody fan on this, so I add notes of cilantro and jalapeno ...

ali r.

Ah: How can you (and your extended family) possibly eat that many tomatoes? Do you can? I found the bounty from 6 ill-tended tomato plants last summer WAY too much bounty for us. At the end I was giving them away to strangers. This year, I did NOT want to plant any tomatoes, but the rotting fruit from last year turned into 6 hardy seedlings.

10023, when life gives you tomatoes, make marinara.

"volunteer plants", as they're known, inspired winter sowing. I bring the extras to work and give them away. I like being able to grow many different varieties, and see what works best. In the future, when I'm settled on a few I like best, I might cut back. I don't can -- food poisoning scares me. Maybe I'll freeze some, but I'm not sure I want to commit much freezer space to them.

"What do I have to do to be added to the list? Be honest."

steve - you are on it. i wrote "the steves" on the first post meaning you and steve jhx

I assumed that meant Steves F and jhx.

whoops sorry steve f. what do you want, i'm a newbie

Oh I make a killer marinara. If I do get extras I will toss them in the freezer. Canning is not for me. I can imagine the burns working with all those jars and hot water etc - not for cc the clutz. I would kill for southern exposure but west is my favorite but for growing tomatoes. I just planted lettuce and spinach and the seeds are sprouting. Very excited.

Hey AH - I have that great fridge and freezer from Leibhor- remember the one that 407PAS put in his apt and couldn't believe I got it in a rental?

btw, how on earth did somebody come up with 10023 and miss me?

you are in aboutready's list. 2nd post, 2nd name

I know, I'm talking about the first post.

You don't grow tomatoes...