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Shocking Acceptance of Lowball offer

Started by Mhillqt
over 16 years ago
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My low ball offer($490k) was accepted for the murray hill 750 sq ft one bedroom on park in the east 30s.....no work needs to be done and mtce is about right....
Response by drdrd
over 16 years ago
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Congratulations, enjoy it & best of luck!

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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congrats. it's been a long time coming. enjoy.

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Response by lowballer
over 16 years ago
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congrats! what was the asking price? how did you spin it to the broker/sellers?

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Response by Mhillqt
over 16 years ago
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Well.....i walked away 2 wks ago saying i wasnt interested in buying anymore since i felt market was going down next year....they called this week with the matching of my lowball and if i was still interested......i told them im thinking about it...so havent formally accepted yet......

original ask in oct 08 was 705k.......

im very qualified for this building.........and sellers dont want to dilly dally with the board......

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Response by urbandigs
over 16 years ago
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nice! but what about the green shoots and buying before prices skyrocket away from us? this doesnt jive with some of the bulls out there who predict a stock fueled price recovery

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Response by lo888
over 16 years ago
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Congrats. Sounds like a great deal to me. Things have to start moving at some level...

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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mhillqt, that's quite a drop for that price range. what are the comps like?

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Response by Apt_Boy
over 16 years ago
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If your lowball (15% or more below ask??) was accepted without any counter, then:

1) You left money on the table, or
2) The seller knows something about apt., building, hood, etc. and is eager to leave before it comes to light, or
3) Simply they needed to sell quickly at any price due to personal reasons, which reverts back to #1 above.

Any "Lowball" (your words) offer that is accepted without a counter is suspicious. If the ask was $510k, then $490k is a fair offer and may not lead to a counter, but if the ask was like $550k+, then I would question the sellers motivations.

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Response by Mhillqt
over 16 years ago
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It was priced accordingly in october 08....but then the market crashed and it just didnt move like most properties in manhattan........the 490k pricing is close to 2004 pricing from comps ive seen(although this particular line of apts doesnt have any streeteasy comps but same sq footage as other lines).......other 1 beds in the building are still listed in the 600s.....is there a way to see comps prior to 2001.....streeteasy is limited in this regard...any other sources for comps?

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Response by patient09
over 16 years ago
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I would get SE to kill this thread till you close!

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Response by evnyc
over 16 years ago
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Congratulations, Mhillqt. That is quite a startling drop!

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Response by sledgehammer
over 16 years ago
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Why would an accepted 15% discount look suspicious? I've stopped counting the number of properties that are being offered for sale at 70% more than the amount the seller paid it for in 2005...

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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also, i would suggest ignoring the sour grapes comment from above. the seller agreed---you feel great about the price. don't let anyone lead you down the path of buyer's remorse.

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Response by Mhillqt
over 16 years ago
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There were numerous counters and i rejected them all.....starting in the high 500s.....

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Response by mimi
over 16 years ago
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There are lots of examples of big chops. What's aptboy's problem? People needs to sell, the market is down, hello!!!

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Response by front_porch
over 16 years ago
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Congrats! Now be very diligent with your application package. If indeed this apartment is the "steal" that you think it is, you still have to convince the board of the co-operative that it is in the service of the building that they sell to you at this price.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

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Response by urbandigs
over 16 years ago
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at some point buyer and seller have to meet. if your diligent, you know what you want, you know the market, you know the comps, and you love the product, and you held strong with your bid - I think you did very well! people will always tell you that you left money on table. maybe you did maybe you didnt. but in the end, you never really know.

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Response by hotproperty
over 16 years ago
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Congrats ParkAveCutie!

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Response by ph41
over 16 years ago
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Congratulations on making this big move!! Does seem like a very good price, and I'm sure you will enjoy living in your new home.

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Response by Village
over 16 years ago
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Congrats Mhillqt!

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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Congratulations! And please ignore the ridiculous "money on the table" suggestion. Mebbe the seller wants a timely sale, rather than top dollar, to buy a particular other place that has a timeframe ... or maybe this is the market price for that apartment. Either way, you did well if you see it through.

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Response by Apt_Boy
over 16 years ago
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Response by bjw2103
over 16 years ago
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Congrats Mhillqt - sounds like you played the negotiations perfectly. It's really key to let them know you're a serious buyer but hold absolutely firm on price (by that I mean the actual price you'd be willing to pay). That strategy pays off eventually, in my experience. Good luck if you decide to go through with it!

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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mhillqt, it may simply be that this apartment building is not in an area where young people gravitate toward. that price range is often for the first time buyer, and many would not be looking at park avenue there.

once again, great job. and you've been looking for awhile, trust your instincts. now do as p09 suggests, and ask SE to kill this thread.

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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apt-boy, don't be an ass.

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Response by nyc10022
over 16 years ago
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$650 psf! Well done, Mhillqt!

Although, is it really *that* shocking?

;-)

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Response by saraj
over 16 years ago
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Nice! Congrats on getting a good deal.

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Response by Apt_Boy
over 16 years ago
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AR, excuse me...don't come to the playground if you can't play with the big boys...this person comes to a public board and describes details of a private transaction and then should expect to be treated with kid gloves...why was this posted in the first place? either it is a fake post or someone in the need of positive re-enforcement.

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Response by hotproperty
over 16 years ago
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I think apt. boy is wrong anyway.

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Response by NWT
over 16 years ago
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Congrats. Good deal, handy location, nice streetscape out the windows, etc.

It's a kick in the butt for the seller upstairs, for sure.

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Response by aboutready
over 16 years ago
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apt-boy, i have no problem keeping up with ANY of the boys. and if you don't see how you're being an ass, well, keep it up then.

hotproperty, i think so too, but still the effort is spiteful.

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