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elevators that can't be used at night

Started by JohnDoe
over 18 years ago
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I was wondering if anyone had experience with buildings that have part-time elevator operators, where the elevator can't be used when the operator is off duty. I'm looking at an apartment in this type of building and trying to figure out how much of an inconvenience it is/how much to discount the value of the apartment because of it. Basically, it's an old building with a manual elevator. Elevator operator on duty only during the day and evening, but not overnight, so you can't use the elevator at night (not allowed to operate the elevator yourself). thoughts?
Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2007

I would never buy in this building.

What happens if you have to go out or return home late at night? Personally, when I get home from work at 3 AM, the last thing I want to do is climb stairs (especially if I am on a high floor).

What happens when I am leaving on an early flight and need to bring my luggage down at 4 AM? Or I return late/very early? Do I have to deliver my luggage to the lobbby ahead of time or leave it there until the next day?

This just wouldn't work for me. Even if it works for you, you are narrowing your pool of buyers for resale.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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An elevator operator is very charming & soooo last century but a part-time elevator is just ridiculous. That building needs to replace that elevator with an automatic elevator; what that would cost, I don't know. Basically it's an old building - with even older residents. If they're just holding out till Dorothy retires they need a third shift on the elevator. Bizarro!

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I think it depends what floor the apartment is that you are looking at. If it is floor 4 or less I wouldn't worry about it too much (just make sure it is priced similar to walkup apartments in the neighborhood). Above 4th floor I would pass. It will be very hard to sell. And yes I agree the building really should put in a modern elevator.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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This is one of the most rediculous thing I've ever heard of! I agree with #2, this could be a bad investment. I travel on business and am thinking of what happens if my flight from hong kong is delayed and I have to lug my luggage up the stairs at 2 am.

The only way I'd consder buying is if the building plans to replace the elevator (As part of the due dilligence process, have your atty ask the management company and get it in writing). The cost may be substantial, but consider against the current mgt fees, buildings financials (do they large cash reserve??) to determine the future financial impact on you.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I'm in contract as a buyer, in good health, and I refused even look at any walk-up apartment, no matter how spectacular. When you go to sell, people like me will not want your apartment. And there are a lot of us.

So what you are looking at is a part-time walk-up apartment and I would never buy it. This is the city that never sleeps, after all!!!

I really wonder why this building has not upgraded its elevator service, and the answer is probably lack of money. It might be worth looking at the board minutes to see if there is any discussion of this.

I would also look long and hard at the financials with your attorney at your side. I could be wrong, but I wonder if this building has a bare-minimum reserve fund or other evidence of being not so strong financially.

And keep looking at other apartments! Good luck!

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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#6--If you do not like walk ups you're discounting a HUGE number of buildings in this town. Anything up to the third floor even in a walk up is still very marketable.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I'll admit I don't think walk up apartments are ideal, but how freaking lazy are you people that the thought of having to walk up a flight or two of stairs is unacceptable. Maybe you should go to the gym more often instead of posting on this message board.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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#9, if you're going to buy a walkup then buy one. The OP is looking at an ELEVATOR building that doesn't always have one. This has implications for resale value, maint fees, building fiancials, etc.

Most walkups are max 5 floors; have no idea how high this one is.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I owned a walk up apt on the 5th floor. Kind of funny when I went to sell it. The day of the open house everyone who walked in were either breathing hard as if they were going to have a heart attack or the looks on their faces were as if they saw a ghost. I don't know why people get so scared when they are walking up those flights. What do they thin they are going to get mugged on the way up or fall down. I mean we are not talking the Grand Canyon here.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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No, the people who are come in breathing hard are just extremely out of shape and having to walk up a few flights of stairs leaves them winded. The people living in this country have gotten so lazy that any bit of physical activety someone needs to go could give them a heart attack. Yes # 13 has every right to think that walkups suck, just as I have a right to think that people who can't walk up a few flights of stairs are lazy, and are the ones who have the most need to live in a walkup.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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It's true stairs are excellent exercise & it's equally true that we are a ridiculously spoiled bunch in this country. Why get free exercise at home if you can pay for it at a gymn. Ha ha!

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I live on the 30th floor and walk up to my apt everyday. I laugh at the people taking the elevators up because they are so lazy. Stupid and lazy Americans

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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uh, as anyone ever tried to walk-up numerous flights of stairs with a 2 year old, a stroller, and groceries all in tow??? idiots.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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oh yeah?? I live on the 54th floor and run up every day. and back & forth to the basement to do my laundry.

#14 I'm sure the folks who attended the open house would be in better shape after living there for a month.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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#13 you fat retard, go eat another canoli, rotundo. better yet, eat another canoli cheesecake you canoli cheescake eatin som' bitch.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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why the christ would you need an elevator operator anyway? what an antiquated notion. probably unionized.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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Walking up stairs is excellent exercise. But when you have an infant, a toddler, a stroller, a diaper bag, and a bag of groceries in tow, walking up stairs becomes very difficult.

It is one thing to walk up and down the stairs in sneakers when you aren't carrying anything. It is quite another to climb stairs in high heels, carrying heavy luggage or bulky laundry bags. I weigh barely 100 lbs and transport close to 40 lbs of laundry to the laundromat every week (with my children). Lazy me for not wanting to carry the laundry, the children, and the stroller down the stairs.

If you feel that you can buy a walk-up because you are single and strong enough to carry your groceries, laundry, luggage, etc. that's fine. But don't be so quick to judge people who aren't able to or who are concerned with the population for resale.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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#23 Dude you must be a wuss. Just kidding. This thread is really dumb. The OP wanted people's opinions on this building. Obviously he doesn't consider it to be too much of an inconvienience (at least to the point that he is highly considering the place). if his feelings were as strong as the naysayers on this board, he wouldn't have even considered it.

To the OP: when you ask a question like this for people's opinions you will get just that, opinions. You need to decide for yourself how much of an inconvienience it would be. Not how much of an inconvienience it is for US.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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If it is priced pretty comparably to a walkup, sounds like a good deal particularly if it doesnt bother you. If it is priced as an elevator building that is a bit of a risk from a resale perspective as many people will opt not to buy a walkup given a choice. Depends also on the price range and size of the apartment. And I lived in a walkup for years, but now that I no longer do I would not want to go back, at least given the plethora of alternatives. It is quite inconvenient, particularly for those who travel.And it is not about laziness,I work out 2 hours a day, but dragging a skibag up or down the stairs early in the morning or late at night is no fun

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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OP here. thanks everyone for your thoughts. I think I was looking for two things - people's thoughts on how much of an inconvenience it would be day to day and on how it would impact resale. Apt. is on 6th floor. It's attractive because it's a beautiful place and priced less than it would be if it were a full-time elevator (wouldn't be able to afford it otherwise). I'm just wondering if I'm risking losing a lot when I go to resell. I know building doesn't have a large reserve. Not sure why they haven't replaced elevator yet - maybe because there's only the one and then it would be a walkup all the time while they're replacing.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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Ouch. The sixth floor. Now that IS a workout. Obviously, from these many posts, resale could be an issue. I lived for years on the 3rd floor with no elevator & it was fine, I loved it, but the 6th floor is a different story. I would be wondering about future plans for the elevator & why the reserve fund is so small. Ultimately only you can make the decision as to whether this is right for you & how long you plan to live there is a big factor. I did have to laugh about the person who works out 2 hours a day but can't carry the ski bag up the stairs. We are a funny bunch. Let us know what you decide.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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## 13/23. For a skinny dork, you sure are good at calling people names. if I were you, I'd shut the fuck up or you might get a beat down, punk. And if you're a woman, act like one.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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One more point to consider re: resale value - is the bldg in an area where there are many observant Jews? If so lack of an elevator may not be an issue as religious Jews wouldn't use the elevator on Friday nights or major holidays. Typically they would buy on a lower floor but 6 isn't that steep.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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I think six floor can be tough with late night travel etc. Overall, it isn't ideal and I do think you will limit your pool of buyers certainly.

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