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creating garage in historic district

Started by KISS
over 16 years ago
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Seeing modern's other post re Charles St condo with parking spaces, I am wondering if it is possible to carve out a garage in a bldg/townhouse in a historic district like the WV. Let's assume that the work could be done contextually for the area, and that one can get a permit for a curb cut. I know that one can replace old windows with new ones in a historic district as long ss they look like the old ones (e.g., double hung, six over six).
Response by ph41
over 16 years ago
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I think you'd have a snowball's chance in hell of doing that (unless the townhouse was a carriage house that already had the wide door) and the curb cut

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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WRONG, ph41! The snowball would have a better chance.

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Response by maly
over 16 years ago
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let's cut to the chase, the answer is NO, N-O, no.

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Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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I can't imagine your getting a new curb cut approved in the West Village. The crazies there would lie down and block you before they let that happen. They think cars are the root of all evil and you are evil for owning one.

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Response by kylewest
over 16 years ago
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I recall reading no curb cuts are being granted at all any more. I

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Response by glamma
over 16 years ago
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dream on..

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Response by alanhart
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You have to link to a heavy metal youtube video if you make a statement like that, glamma.

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Response by glamma
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haha yes now you see where i'm coming from

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Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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In NYC, there is a group to oppose anything and everything:

Coalition to Curb the Use of Curb Cuts

DRAFT Coaltion Goals:

1.To cut back on the number of curb cuts for cars in NYC - epecialy curb cuts for private or exclusive use.
2.To highly tax property owners with curb cuts.
3.To raise awareness about the negative impacts of curb cuts.
4.To keep cars off of the sidewalks and in the gutter where they belong!

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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Would you want to be one of the zillions of pedestrians walking down a Manhattan sidewalk that has curb cut after curb cut, constantly having to pay attention to the cars coming and going? Would you want to live on a street where the traffic backs up while cars wait out the pedestrians to enter the driveways?

Curb cuts make no sense here for 1-2 car garages. Encouraging more car traffic makes no sense for anywhere in prime Manhattan, much less the WV.

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Response by KISS
over 16 years ago
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actually, I think the cobblestone moguls do a pretty good job of deterring cars driving through.

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Response by modern
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Curb cuts for 1-2 car garages have little impact. What, in and out once a day maybe, if that? It is the commercial garages that have cars going in and out all the time, where the drivers from New Jersey can run you over.

My solution to traffic in Manhattan? Make all cars with New Jersey license plates have EZ Pass and charge them $20 per day if they enter Manhattan. Double it if they have vanity license plates.

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Response by glamma
over 16 years ago
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here here! triple for blasting terrible music on the way in...

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Response by nyc10023
over 16 years ago
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KW - they're still granting curb cuts in Bk. I think approval has something to do with replacement of low-density with higher-density housing or something like that.

In Manhattan Valley, there are a couple of corner houses with garages. There are a couple on Riverside Drive in the 70s/80s, another one on 75th (?) and Columbus. Or you could be like Seinfeld and buy your own garage building.

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Response by nyc10023
over 16 years ago
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There always seem to be a couple of commercial/residential properties on the market s. of 96th that have curb cuts. I think there was one in the E. village last year (under 4m), and a couple on the UES.

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Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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Buy a building for $5m in 2006. Fix it up a bit (but don't bother to add an elevator for your 6 level house) and ask $25 million.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/416749-house-400-west-street-west-village-new-york

And get Wendy "6 inches is the new foot-long" Maitlan to list it and call your 12' by 25' one-car garage a "two car garage".

How does she think she will get away with this? I mean, somebody buys this place and shows up to park their 2 cars, you think they are not going to notice they don't fit? (unless they have 2 Smart cars).

And I love how the floorplans show the building to be 19' 3" wide in most rooms, yet it is listed as a 22' foot wide townhouse.

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Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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I take back the crack about the 22' width, as the lot is 22 and 3/8" wide, so I guess the walls must be a foot and a half thick on each side. But they only paid $4.3m in 2007 and want $25 million now?

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Response by drdrd
over 16 years ago
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Another issue with curb cuts is that with each curb cut you lose a parking space along the street.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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When is 200 Eleventh Avenue closing?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 16 years ago
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"Another issue with curb cuts is that with each curb cut you lose a parking space along the street."

I think it's pretty clear from what the city is doing to our boulevards that they don't give a rat's ass about "losing available street parking spots".

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