CPW-2nd floor facing Central Park near 106th - traffic, subway noise?
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Hi, I'm an international buyer looking to buy a condo for my kid (will attend college there) and found a wonderful looking 1BR directly on Central Park on the internet. I asked about the noise pollution and was told that it's not that bad for the windows, but there was also noise from the floor (subway noise) - but u get used to it and that it's much better with rugs.(the condo has a beautiful... [more]
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I'm an international buyer looking to buy a condo for my kid (will attend college there) and found a wonderful looking 1BR directly on Central Park on the internet. I asked about the noise pollution and was told that it's not that bad for the windows, but there was also noise from the floor (subway noise) - but u get used to it and that it's much better with rugs.(the condo has a beautiful hardwood floor - I've researched possibilities to soundproof the floor - apparently you'd always have to remove the existing floor first)
The apartment is really beautiful, the views very nice (Park across the street), of course if you love the park as we do the location would be perfect...
Anyone who knows how it's like to live on 2nd floor directly on Central park facing all the traffic?
Should I consider it at all and fly in to view it?
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Response by anonymous
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I'm wondering about the floor; perhaps just a pad & wall to wall carpet might do the trick. CPW is prime so I can't imagine that the noise would be such an issue. Anyway actually RIGHT THERE?
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I've viewed approximately 6 apts along CPW facing the park over the past year or so, though only 1 on the second floor, and I have not noticed subway noise in any apartment. Regarding street noise, it has varied a lot - in some places I hear nothing, in others it's constant, particularly near the windows. I suspect it comes down to the quality of the windows. Large truck traffic generally isn't allowed along CPW, other than for deliveries which are mostly M-F during the day, so noise isn't as bad as it could be. If convenient, I'd visit to hear for yourself and check out the neighborhood.
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Thanks for your helpful comments, yes, #2 , it's actually right there. and #3 also sort of calms me down. I expected advice to not go for it, but that doesn't sound too bad:-)
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One thing to do. Check to make sure there is not a bus stop directly in front of the building (CPW is a bus route). NY buses can be very loud and the second floor is very close if the bus is starting and stopping in front of the windows all day long. Good luck.
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hey, thanks! wouldn't have considered that myself..
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Right on about the buses, otherwise 106th CPW is great. As for the second floor, good soundproofing windows will really help. Is it a Coop or a Condo? Before you fly over to see it, be sure that the building allows parents to buy for their kids.
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Am I out of touch or is 106th and CPW still a bit sketchy?
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It is a condo.
#8:I hope not, I figured everything right on the park with all the traffic day and night would be o.k.?
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I tend to think that that area is fine these days although there is an old bias against anything above 96th street. Today they've got multi-million dollar apartments on Central Park North (110th St.) Anybody who actually lives there.......?
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is 106th still considered Manhattan or have realtor's stretched the borders? Ensure the price is reflected to consider this, there should be a good discount for 106th v.s the same unit on 95th
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would 946 per sq feet (fsbo) be acceptable?
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I think if you become a streeteasy insider you can see comps (previous sale prices).
Just a quick look at units sold in 467 CPW (on 107th) indicates that that price per foot seems high.
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106th street is still Manhattan. Manhattan is the whole island. There are probably still some who consider anything north of 96th street as not being PRIME Manhattan. It really depends on who you are, how you live, how much ethnic diversity you're comfortable with.
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Ethnic diversity is actually one of the reasons why I love NYC.
I used to live on 102nd for a few months and was totally happy there.
As long as it is near the park (and near transportation) I would consider it.
on the other hand I was very interested in one of the smaller condos in
Loft 124 on West 124th Street between Lenox and Adam Clayton Powell,
(by now all the affordable units are gone) - so beautiful and just perfect, I could hardly resist.
and then I read a few discussions about the neighbourhood of the building and
found several remarks from people from the area fundamentally saying : you
f*** white a**** stay where you are with all your money, nobody wants you up here!
which I found understandable on one hand (prices going up and consequences) and sad on the
other hand (cause in Europe we tend to believe NYC is ethnic diversity heaven:-)
- anyway I would not want to live in a neighbourhood where my neighbours hate me
for my skin colour either..
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Here we go again with the worship of "cultural diversity"
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#11...what do you mean is 106th street still Manhattan?? 106th and CPW is terrific. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally out of touch.
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Be careful when you are evaluating the price by the square footage, unless you can obtain solid proof of the actual square footage. Do not rely on the seller, get the building plans or neasure it yourself. Lots of people overestimate the size. that said, $946 could be the right price, but you really need to provide more info, e.g., condition of the unit, what floor, what is maintenance/taxes, etc.
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Right, I guess I should also get an appraiser..Anybody knows where I could find a good one?
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You only pay for an appraisal after an offer is accepted an in conjunction with a signed contract.
In this situation - you do your own research. You can sign up here and pay $10/month and get access to previous sales. You can also do this on www.propertyshark.com. For both, look for comp sales in the building and the area around. You do not hire an appraiser for this - this is your own work or a broker helps you - but I think we determined you may not need one.
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oh, I guess I used the wrong term (English is not my mother tongue), sorry.
I meant something like a home inspection - someone professional who tells me:
you'll have to renovate electric wiring soon..etc.
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#20:I just looked at propertyshark - amazing! so much information, thanks for the hint.
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A home inspection is probably a good idea. I would never buy a single family home without an inspection & it makes sense to inspect the unit that you are purchasing.
I'm wondering about the floor; perhaps just a pad & wall to wall carpet might do the trick. CPW is prime so I can't imagine that the noise would be such an issue. Anyway actually RIGHT THERE?
I've viewed approximately 6 apts along CPW facing the park over the past year or so, though only 1 on the second floor, and I have not noticed subway noise in any apartment. Regarding street noise, it has varied a lot - in some places I hear nothing, in others it's constant, particularly near the windows. I suspect it comes down to the quality of the windows. Large truck traffic generally isn't allowed along CPW, other than for deliveries which are mostly M-F during the day, so noise isn't as bad as it could be. If convenient, I'd visit to hear for yourself and check out the neighborhood.
Thanks for your helpful comments, yes, #2 , it's actually right there. and #3 also sort of calms me down. I expected advice to not go for it, but that doesn't sound too bad:-)
One thing to do. Check to make sure there is not a bus stop directly in front of the building (CPW is a bus route). NY buses can be very loud and the second floor is very close if the bus is starting and stopping in front of the windows all day long. Good luck.
hey, thanks! wouldn't have considered that myself..
Right on about the buses, otherwise 106th CPW is great. As for the second floor, good soundproofing windows will really help. Is it a Coop or a Condo? Before you fly over to see it, be sure that the building allows parents to buy for their kids.
Am I out of touch or is 106th and CPW still a bit sketchy?
It is a condo.
#8:I hope not, I figured everything right on the park with all the traffic day and night would be o.k.?
I tend to think that that area is fine these days although there is an old bias against anything above 96th street. Today they've got multi-million dollar apartments on Central Park North (110th St.) Anybody who actually lives there.......?
is 106th still considered Manhattan or have realtor's stretched the borders? Ensure the price is reflected to consider this, there should be a good discount for 106th v.s the same unit on 95th
would 946 per sq feet (fsbo) be acceptable?
I think if you become a streeteasy insider you can see comps (previous sale prices).
Just a quick look at units sold in 467 CPW (on 107th) indicates that that price per foot seems high.
106th street is still Manhattan. Manhattan is the whole island. There are probably still some who consider anything north of 96th street as not being PRIME Manhattan. It really depends on who you are, how you live, how much ethnic diversity you're comfortable with.
Ethnic diversity is actually one of the reasons why I love NYC.
I used to live on 102nd for a few months and was totally happy there.
As long as it is near the park (and near transportation) I would consider it.
on the other hand I was very interested in one of the smaller condos in
Loft 124 on West 124th Street between Lenox and Adam Clayton Powell,
(by now all the affordable units are gone) - so beautiful and just perfect, I could hardly resist.
and then I read a few discussions about the neighbourhood of the building and
found several remarks from people from the area fundamentally saying : you
f*** white a**** stay where you are with all your money, nobody wants you up here!
which I found understandable on one hand (prices going up and consequences) and sad on the
other hand (cause in Europe we tend to believe NYC is ethnic diversity heaven:-)
- anyway I would not want to live in a neighbourhood where my neighbours hate me
for my skin colour either..
Here we go again with the worship of "cultural diversity"
#11...what do you mean is 106th street still Manhattan?? 106th and CPW is terrific. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally out of touch.
Be careful when you are evaluating the price by the square footage, unless you can obtain solid proof of the actual square footage. Do not rely on the seller, get the building plans or neasure it yourself. Lots of people overestimate the size. that said, $946 could be the right price, but you really need to provide more info, e.g., condition of the unit, what floor, what is maintenance/taxes, etc.
Right, I guess I should also get an appraiser..Anybody knows where I could find a good one?
You only pay for an appraisal after an offer is accepted an in conjunction with a signed contract.
In this situation - you do your own research. You can sign up here and pay $10/month and get access to previous sales. You can also do this on www.propertyshark.com. For both, look for comp sales in the building and the area around. You do not hire an appraiser for this - this is your own work or a broker helps you - but I think we determined you may not need one.
oh, I guess I used the wrong term (English is not my mother tongue), sorry.
I meant something like a home inspection - someone professional who tells me:
you'll have to renovate electric wiring soon..etc.
#20:I just looked at propertyshark - amazing! so much information, thanks for the hint.
A home inspection is probably a good idea. I would never buy a single family home without an inspection & it makes sense to inspect the unit that you are purchasing.