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How Moody's got its staff to AAA not ready for prime time mortgages.

Started by Riversider
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http://www.kansas.com/514/story/1016924.html Control Fraud anyone? Where is William Black? WASHINGTON - As the housing market collapsed in late 2007, Moody's Investors Service, whose investment ratings were widely trusted, responded by purging analysts and executives who warned of trouble and promoting those who helped Wall Street plunge the country into its worst financial crisis since the Great... [more]
Response by Riversider
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The fourth estate has certainly let us down in this crisis....

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Response by Riversider
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Where were they back in 2000?

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Response by columbiacounty
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chatting amongst yourself again?

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Response by The_President
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yawn, another borong Riversider post. Oh, and I already read a similar article on Huffington Post. So there is no need to copy and paste all day long. People are capable of finding articles on their own.

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Response by Riversider
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By Erik Larson
Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. judge refused to dismiss a
lawsuit accusing the rating companies Moody’s Investors Service
Inc. and Standard & Poor’s of giving advice that caused investor
losses on subprime and other asset-backed investments.
U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin in New York rejected
the ratings firms’ arguments Oct. 15, forcing them and Morgan
Stanley, which was also sued, to respond to fraud charges in a
class action by investors claiming the raters hid the risks of
securities linked to subprime mortgages.

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Response by Riversider
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/20/AR2009102000035.html

I like Simon Johnson, but he doesn't really discuss how government by bestowing an oligopoly fostered the problem. The bestowed them a privilege without downside risk... Best we can do now is to treat Moody's like KPMG. They don't even fear getting sued under the current system and claim, "freedom of the press".

You often hear critics of government talk about how much better the private sector is at . . . well, just about everything. One common claim is that private corporations are better managed because of some combination of internal meritocracy, shareholder pressure and the profit imperative. This was the basis for Ross Perot's 19 percent of the popular vote in 1992 and the political careers of Michael Bloomberg and many others. However, this tenet of anti-government rhetoric suffers from a big problem: Many private corporations aren't very well managed, either.

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Response by columbiacounty
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still chatting away....

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Response by evnyc
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Actually, I rather agree with Riversider's approval of Simon Johnson, and his assertion that many private corporations aren't managed very well. Problem is that instead of fostering competition, we've now created a system that rewards poorly managed companies, as long as they are very, very large.

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