Garbage transfer facility on Upper East Side?

A friend of mine told me you can see a map of the route the trucks will take to the dump - can anyone tell me if that's true, and if so where I might find it?

>Won't it make sense to put the next garbage dump or compost heap in the neighborhood they move to? There's no escape.

Actually makes sense for each person to just keep his or her own garbage. And none of this backyard crap - you keep it in your actual apartment because most people don't have their own backyards, and it would be unfair to say have people on the 5th floor keep it in the backyard of a building because then it is closest to people on the ground floor who are likely to be disproportionately something or other that is protected, such as Oprah who need protection from shop clerks in Switzerland and has the right to globally shame the clerk if she doesn't get to buy her $38,000 purse. Each and every person should be reduced to the lowest common denominator (except Oprah of course). Also if there is overflow, we can use Central Park and the median on Park Avenue as staging areas for garbage compaction before the garbage is returned back to the original NYer who is responsible for it.

huntersburg: lol!

All Oprah had to do was whip out her AmEx Black (!) card and ask to see that 38k bag.
Or she could just have called the big cheese at whatever company is producing that bag:
"Hello, it's Oprah here in Switzerland at the "____" shop. Please send that "____" bag to my hotel, I'd like to see it."

They would have sent it (and every other similar bag in whichever style and color (!) she wanted), as well as sending the entire line of those bags directly to her hotel room.

La vaca vieja!

Jim_Hores / C0lumbiaC0unty, could you translate what alanhart said?

midageguy, there's one at http://sanetrash.org/truck-routes/

There must also be some in all the Environmental Impact Statements, but they're so huge nothing can be found in them.

Hey - thanks NWT.

"OK, OK...we get it "More NIMBY BS"...lets move on. You're above NIMBY...you would never do it. You are better than these other people. What a guy. There are people on here that now need to decide if they are going to move. There standard of living is about to change. If you don't live there or feel compassion for the decisions these people now need to make, why are you on this blog? To gloat. You're a class act. What a tough guy..big shot. Can we move on now? Have I praised you enough...is your ego stroked enough now?"

Let me get this straight... after going off on me personally, you continue to argue your points AGAIN.

And THEN talk about moving on?

Completely disingenuous.

"There [sic] standard of living is about to change."

Yes, the value of their apartment goes down 2%. THey still live exactly where they live, their kids are just as safe, going to the same schools, and their lives don't change AT ALL.

Break out the violins....

Send in the clowns.

http://gothamist.com/2013/08/16/video_hilarious_hypocrite_only_want.php

john Catsimatidis says hell stop if elected.

The Catsimatidis family is like SOOOO Cuh-LASS-y!!!!

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/files/Christmas2012.jpg

What do holidays at the Jason household look like?

Catsimatidis will stop if elected? Seriously?
On the subject of Catsimatidis: anyone who's ever set foot in Gristedes cannot help but wonder, how does he make money? The most overpriced, understaffed, lowest quality crap and NO CUSTOMERS. I mean, people buy canned stuff and, say, paper towels but you have to be mad to consider eating he produce or meat. I live near one of them and never ever saw anybody buying actual food items. To me, that smells like a perfect money laundering operation.

Catsimitidis will keep the garbage in Staten Island.

ideally we'd get a Thompson / catsimatidis race

I'm voting for Patrick M. Grattan.

http://pledge2protectnyc.org/scorecard/

I have very high standards ... I wouldn't send my garbage anywhere but Yorkville.

if Joe Lhota becomes mayor, the dump gets dumped.

I read some fishy stuff about Lhota's record on this one. This is going to be the primary voting issue for many of us who live in the neighborhood. After being bombarded by the propaganda re: which democrat to vote for, the decision becomes a lot trickier for democrats who will be torn between voting on principals (though De Blasio may piss off a lot of UESers in the upper tax brackets anyways) VS just voting on the issue of the tranfer facility.

Will be very interesting to watch this election...

What principals will trump you and your family living amid garbage and higher crime?

Not everyone lives on 91st and York...those on 90th and 91st from the Park to the FDR and those along 1st and York will all be affected by dozens of garbage trucks barreling up and down the side streets...that's a very different issue than living next door to the facility.

If the dump gets dumped, will the UES and Yorkville stop sending it's sewage to Ward's Island, and just keep it instead?

its

Bill de Blasio:
born WARREN WILHELM;
married but to a lesbian; if politically beneficial, would be married to himself;
trotting out his family like war horses: supposedly everyone had to fall in love with those children of his, for some reason;
volunteer coordinator for David Dinkins' 1989 mayoral campaign

As a lifelong Democrat, I am forced to admit that Lhota is the only one, so far, who is intelligently liberal (pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-legalization of marijuana, for women's rights), who held an honest job with REAL responsibilities and salary, who did not whore out his family's priviacy for political gain. So this Democrat (me) votes for Lhota.
NYC10007, isn't it your garbage, too? Or you and yours don't produce any?

You can't blame him for having his family in the ads, it's none of your business that his wife is or was a lesbian. And you know, NYC was a little tired of Koch in 1989 after 12 years (ahem). You kind of sound like a birther.

Interesting how outside Yorkville, nobody gives a shit about the MTS.

Note how most of the election districts carried by the anti-MTS Thompson are in Yorkville. The ED for the blocks immediately above and below the MTS went for him 80-something percent.

I don't care if she is a lesbian, you troll. He and she made their family my business without my asking. I'd be just as happy to know nothing about their private lives/children/etc. I am as much of a birther as you. Idiot troll.

>He and she made their family my business without my asking.

What?

Politicians (especially those running for office) make "their family business (your/the public's) business without (your) asking". That's how the game is played.

Why would Yorkville be more equal than other animals?

Is there a "Yorkville" animal species?
I thought that "Yorkville" is a neighborhood.

NWT, any research on a "Yorkville animal" species?

Dollar. Of what possible significance could his name at birth have to do with his candidacy? Are we a little bigoted? The act of changing ones name to avoid potential intolerance seems a reasonable rationale. To 'out' somebody as being of German heritage??? All. Credibility. Gone.

Exactly. The man showed his family. He may or may not be married to a lesbian, or someone who had a lesbian relationship in the past. Who the hell cares? Rudy tried to move his mistress into Gracie while his kids were still there and first announced his intentions to leave his wife publicly. That's a total asshole.

You don't sound necessarily like a liberal, you sound like a Lhota campaign worker.

Oh, Wilhelm is half of German heritage. Hmmm. East or West?

fieldschester:
"All in all,
it's just another brick in the wall..."

Wilhelm is often changed to bill or William in the us, and he took his mother's last name at the end of his college years. His father was an alcoholic war vet who was gone by his early years. I think that to impute some other motive for his name change is rather vile.

>Wilhelm is often changed to bill or William in the us

That makes sense, since his name is Bill de Bill

>I think that to impute some other motive for his name change is rather vile.

Vile? Exactly what is the vile issue here? You just called his father alcoholic.

"Vile"? What a load of alkie B.S.

Oxymoronic, I did NOT mean to "out" anyone, and I do not consider talking about someone's real name, whether German, Jewish, Chinese or any other to be called "outing". If you see it as "outing", it says more about you than about what was said.
What I meant to say that a lot of "...but" in this guy's life. Almost everything about him comes with a "...but", and almost everything requires elaborate explanation. I do not like that at all in a public "servant."

Dollar - You consciously chose to capitalize and thus emphasize his born name not the act of changing his name. Just be careful that you write what you mean to say.

Let's go back to the Waste Transfer Station.

Does anyone have a better map or details of where the trucks will go. The one NWT kindly posted doesn't provide any real facts, just highlighting that there are multiple rouds the trucks could go down. I thought that EIS had highlighted that 1st and 2nd Avenue were "existing Truck Routes" and not York. I'm not sure what the significance of that is. Clearly trucks are not prohibited from driving on York.

I think I've answered my own question. "This shall be accomplished by leaving a designated truck route at the intersection that is nearest and provides the most direct route to his/her destination, proceeding by the most direct route while observing existing street directions and turn restrictions"

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/trafrule.pdf#section4-13a

This would suggest that trucks cannot use York south of 86th street which NWT's. It also implies trucks would have to use 90th and 91st street to get to and from the transfer station from 1st or 2nd.

In reality, I've no idea how this is enforced. It certainly seems to be that very few trucks use York right now.

To answer your question, greenberg, East. Specifically, Manhattan.

Although, like Boston Bloomberg, he was raised in Red Sox country. So presumably he's being monitored, and a dossier is being kept on him. Freedom ain't free.

Dollar asks.."NYC10007, isn't it your garbage, too? Or you and yours don't produce any?"

My poopoo smells like roses and I use the 1/2 bath as a compost room. And like any good Manhattan elitist liberal, I'm for all good leftist causes...unless, of course, it's in my own back yard and impedes MY quality of living. Duh...

When I went to vote the other day, Bill de Blasio was second on the list but if you were looking for Bill Thompson, you had to search and remember that his real name was William Thompson, Jr. I wonder if Bill de Bill went by, ahem, WARREN WILHELM, ahem, which would also have been after William Thompson, if he would have done as well.

NWT wrote:

"Interesting how outside Yorkville, nobody gives a shit about the MTS.

Note how most of the election districts carried by the anti-MTS Thompson are in Yorkville. The ED for the blocks immediately above and below the MTS went for him 80-something percent."

Yup, completely true...I wouldn't give two licks if I didn't live in the neighborhood either...much of Carnegie swung his way too for the same reasons...tons of families with kids who play sports at Asphalt Green.

Bill-de-bla
Bill-bla-de,
Bill-bla-da

Saw the demolition of the original station today. Quite impressive. There was one barge filled with massive slabs of concrete? stone? Another barge was filled with the siding on the water side of the building.

http://www.nydailynews.com/1.1463591

Looks like the waste trasnfer station results in a discount of approx 25% - 33% compared to comparables below 86th on East End. I can relate to a little nimbyism if it were proposed opposite my apartment.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/875204-coop-200-east-end-avenue-yorkville-new-york?email=true

"Makes sense, someone doesn't want garbage in their backyard, they should therefore be ashamed of themselves."

No, ashamed for *lying*, hypocrisy, and making up BS stories about children's safety for their own financial gain.

"There [sic] standard of living is about to change. If you don't live there or feel compassion for the decisions these people now need to make, why are you on this blog?"

If people's lives are ruined because their property values went down 2%, then they didn't have much in the way of lives to begin with.

And, no, I don't feel compassion for the deceitful. The others, as I've noted, the effect is minimal, and part of the price one pays for living in New York.

Now STOP WHINING!

Are they whiners or are they deceitful?

God this "Somewhereelse" guy is repetitive. We get it!

http://gothamist.com/2013/09/30/bill_de_blasios_father_ended_his_li.php

Keep the punches coming, Mr. Lhota
By Post Editorial Board
October 21, 2013 | 10:34pm
http://nypost.com/2013/10/21/keep-the-punches-coming-mr-lhota/
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Good for Joe Lhota. When the GOP candidate for mayor released the first ad to hit his Democratic rival hard — for policies that would undermine the cops’ success in driving crime down to levels that are the envy of every other big city in America — Bill de Blasio complained it was “divisive” and “inappropriate.”

But Lhota hasn’t backed down, and that’s a good thing. It will make for an even better mayoral debate if Lhota follows up tonight by turning the tables on de Blasio’s preferred tactic in the first debate, which was to focus on Lhota’s “ideology.”

If de Blasio tries that again, Lhota would do well to turn the tables by highlighting the connection between de Blasio’s ideology and, say, his approach to taxes. The combined top city and state income-tax rate here is 12.7 percent. Only California’s is higher, at 13.3 percent.

Every day these high rates are sending more of our tax base to more business-friendly locales. And what is de Blasio’s answer? To jack them up even higher. Indeed, Joe might want to ask de Blasio if there’s any point in his ideology where a liberal can say taxes are too high.

Or take spending. New York spends more than any other city in America. We’re a big city, of course, but we spend more proportionately, too. It would be worth asking de Blasio if he thinks we get good value for it.

Mayor Bloomberg points out that New York City now spends more for pensions each year than for its operating budgets for the police, fire and sanitation departments combined. So again, it would be worth asking de Blasio to explain why in his ideology this is not enough.

At its core, de Blasio’s Tale of Two Cities is a government-heavy approach that will tax more, spend more and regulate more. That’s an ideology, too.

And we’re not surprised that de Blasio would rather complain about his rival’s imagined ties to the Tea Party than explain why an ideology that has bankrupted so many other cities will somehow work in New York.

Yorkville... what a beautiful little neighborhood. Diverse and quiet. Sitting at the East River, watching the dog run or boats go by. Maybe a little expensive but not outrageous. It feels like a hidden gem. My wife and I just re-upped for two more years. Sure, we can leave in a couple of years if the dump pushes us out, but we both are saddened that a neighborhood this nice would get dumped on to begin with. I'm truly sorry for those who own, and hope for the best for them. If this is honestly political... honestly... then it's a big mistake. It's just messing up something that's nice.

That said, anyone joyful or smug over this situation imposed on others is misguided. What's bad for Yorkville is bad for NYC. You should want nice neighborhoods anywhere you can get them.

Hi everyone,
This morning Tuesday Jan 14th I noticed some oily liquid in the water coming from the construction site. I took pictures. It doesn't look normal to me to dump oily liquid in the water for any reason. Who should I contact and send my pictures? I live in one of the building in front of the construction site.

Thanks!

I just read this article. In it, the sanitation commissioner, Ms. Garcia, says: "The Department of Sanitation is continuing to meet with the Upper East Side community to discuss possible solutions in an effort to demonstrate our willingness to be good neighbors.” What does "possible solutions" mean exactly? Might the plan actually NOT go through?

Can anyone in the know enlighten me?

I read another article that says the city is "trying to reduce the impact" on the neighborhood… so it looks like the plan might go through… Hmmm

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06/01/transfer-station-opponents-put-ad-blitz-on-hold-as-talks-with-sanitation-commissioner-continue/

She means the DoS will send someone to listen to them whine. Meanwhile construction continues, and should be done by 2016.

Woman killed by garbage truck today, partially her fault, partially driver's whose view obstructed:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/07/02/woman-struck-killed-by-sanitation-truck-in-chelsea/#comments

How is that story relevant?

fieldchester: Accidents like these with garbage trucks are what Pledge to Protect is concerned about at E 91 st and York. In the case yesterday, the co-worker of the driver saw what was happening and yelled for the driver to stop. The driver didn't hear him resulting in the woman being killed. The chance for this happening at E 91 St are high considering all the large number of small people and baby carriages crossing the sidewalk where the garbage trucks turn to their ramp. Visibility is poor on these garbage trucks, something the city should be addressing with the 3 deaths they've caused this year.

I'm sure she's a nice woman and she loved her dog, but she ran in front of a garbage truck. She got killed. It's not like the garbage truck jumped the curb and killed her. This was her fault. And she knows it, because she ran to get her dog because she knew her dog was in danger being in that exact position.

> Visibility is poor on these garbage trucks, something the city should be addressing with the 3 deaths they've caused this year.

I disagree. Should we be ordering new low top garbage trucks? Should we have additional men (or women) standing guard? I don't want to pay for that.

> Visibility is poor on these garbage trucks, something the city should be addressing with the 3 deaths they've caused this year.

I totally agree

dnainfo says she didn't exactly run in front. It was stopped and she crawled under it to retrieve her dog when it started moving. While gruesome, one wonders why she wouldn't have just banged on the door and asked the nice man not to move for a sec.

http://therealdeal.com/2016/04/27/de-blasios-law-firm-also-represents-controversial-uws-developer-he-backed/

The view of the garbage gazebo today (the tower in the first photo is the Brittany, rental, 1775 York Ave):

https://www.anony.ws/image/JzVf
https://www.anony.ws/image/JzV0