http://wcbstv.com/local/nyc.property.tax.2.1318668.html Residents Furious, Say Bloomberg Doesn't Care; Condo And Co-Op Owners To Be Hit With Double-Digit Increase NEW YORK (CBS) ― It's another act of a tone deaf government. Cash-strapped New York City homeowners are being hit with hefty property tax increases. And the reason is hard for homeowners to both understand and swallow. To city homeowners... [more]
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Residents Furious, Say Bloomberg Doesn't Care; Condo And Co-Op Owners To Be Hit With Double-Digit Increase
NEW YORK (CBS) ―
It's another act of a tone deaf government.
Cash-strapped New York City homeowners are being hit with hefty property tax increases. And the reason is hard for homeowners to both understand and swallow.
To city homeowners it gives new meaning to the term fuzzy math. Their property values have plummeted but their taxes are going up.
And they are furious.
"All you're paying is taxes on top of taxes so what do they really do for you? They don't do nothing. Vote for me. Vote me in. We'll do this for you. We'll do that for you. They don't do nothing for you. They just give you headaches on top of headaches," said Alan Navas of Astoria.
Voters all across the metropolitan region are in revolt over high taxes, but city residents will have to dig deeper to live here to reflect -- if you can believe this -- higher property assessments during the boom years that by state law are still being phased in.
Councilman Peter Vallone voted against the increase, but he couldn't stop it.
"This will lead to more foreclosures. It's the continued erosion of our tax base which is, I'd like to say is pennywise and pound foolish, but it's not even pennywise, it's just plain foolish," said Vallone, D-Queens.
One- and two-family homeowners will be hit with an 8.8-percent increase. The average homeowner will see his taxes go from $3,233 to $3,519.
Co-op and condo owners will pay 10.3-percent more.
The average co-op resident's tax bill will go from $4,467 to $4,930 and condo owners from $6,422 to $6,874.
Homeowner Delores Camilleri was shocked when CBS 2 HD told her the new bills were being sent out on Monday. Tom Flynn of Astoria fought to bite his tongue.
"It's Bloomberg nickel and diming us for everything he can get," Flynn said.
When asked what she would say to the mayor if given the opportunity, Astoria homeowner Mary Volponi said, "Oh I'd kick him. He don't care."
Added equally disgruntled Navas: "As far as I'm concerned New York City is just gonna be the poor, and the middle class. The rich are gonna get out and you ain't gonna have nothing here if they keep raising the taxes and raising the taxes."
The new tax bills are being put in the mail Monday by the city Finance Department. Homeowners have until Jan. 1 to pay up, the same day the mayor and City Council are sworn in for new terms.
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Response by columbiacounty
about 16 years ago
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hell no....for me, the world is a great place. you're the one who decided that everything makes me angry.
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Response by spinnaker1
about 16 years ago
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hfscomm1 - Who are you really? Do we know you? Do we debate with your other identity? Did someone hurt your feelings somewhere along the way? Is your other identity too fragile to stand up for him/herself?
So you came up with this puzzling solution to help you through your embarrassment, demonstrating your slighted brilliance by repeating the words of those who slighted you. While a novel approach I'm not sure it's giving you the desired results. It's not really making you feel better, is it Sybil? Now don't take this personally and go off inventing another personality but I think I can speak for the rest of us that your approach is uninventive, a little juvenile, and most definitely boring.
So I guess you can consider this another in your string of failures. Did you buy in 07, too?
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Response by Riversider
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I agree with ap23, The Police & Firemen are great(except when they are used as revenue generators handing out nuisance fines), but seriously the city can't afford the lifetime benefits that are provided to city workers who can retire after only a fraction of the years non-civil servants can. Doubt the politicians have the political will to tackle this, it will come via a tax-payer(property owner) revolt of sorts.
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Response by hfscomm1
about 16 years ago
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I entered into a lease at a new residence in 2007.
I'm so boring I get all this attention! Imagine if I had interesting stories about my bathroom or what I'm entitled to like aboutready!
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Response by columbiacounty
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more giggling? trying to figure out what kind of person enjoys this type of attention. think that spinnaker is on the right track.
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Response by spinnaker1
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Don't confuse pity with attention.
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Response by aboutready
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hsf is a pimply-faced 15 year old who just got kicked out of dalton for drugs. the parents bought a huge apartment in 220 RSB early '08, right after dad made MD at Lehman. mom is a selfish bitch stay-at-home mom who can't break her addictions to botox and prada. dad is currently nowhere to be found, but HSBC, the mortgage holder, is very present in their lives. hsfcomm stands for HSBC fucks completely, but in his drug-addled state he misspelled.
or maybe hsf is riversider. who knows?
i would find all of this funny, but for the fact that it must be annoying as hell for the rest of you. that someone devotes their time to following me around and quoting what i say and then possibly thinks that could bother me is unfathomable.
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Response by modern
about 16 years ago
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Here is what I don't get.
This thread has like a zillion posts complaining about this hfs guy/gal.
Yet if the people complaining simply placed him/her on ignore and stopped responding, there would be 90% fewer posts about it.
I think some posters here have a serious case of Last Word Syndrome.
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Response by aboutready
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oops, guilty as charged. although i've been quite good at not responding generally, probably because i truly can't be bothered. that last one was just for fun.
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Response by columbiacounty
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my vote remains riversider. and...since modern has been ignoring me for weeks, i would appear to be getting in the last word.
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Response by hfscomm1
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"then possibly thinks that could bother me is unfathomable."
Very evident I'm failing, right?
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Response by columbiacounty
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yes...it is...apparently not to you? that's your problem.
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Response by hfscomm1
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Why does it matter to you if it doesn't bother you?
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Response by columbiacounty
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i am still trying to understand the point of someone like you. think of it as a psychology experiment. you do seem to fit the profile of a pimply faced teen.
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Response by hfscomm1
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Aboutready, you studied psychology at Yale (for free), am I performing a psychology experiment? Help clarify this for your big brother.
columbiacounty, I'm going to go away for a few hours now. I'll come back and check in on you and see if you have managed to restrain yourself from following around and yelling at other old and new posters. Maybe if you can manage that for a few days (that includes passive aggressive statements like "huh?" or tendencies to ask rhetorical questions), you might have a case for your point of view about me.
Have a good day! I'll be back.
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Response by columbiacounty
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so...if i behave myself according to your rules, i'll get a passing grade? delusions of grandeur?
p.s. you obviously haven't followed me as closely as you need to be---no passive in my aggressive.
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Response by gcondo
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well over 1/2 of my pay goes to taxes and now more property tax! im so outta here -
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Response by petrfitz
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gcondo - see ya! have fun living in Detroit
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Response by somewhereelse
about 16 years ago
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"I agree with ap23, The Police & Firemen are great(except when they are used as revenue generators handing out nuisance fines), but seriously the city can't afford the lifetime benefits that are provided to city workers who can retire after only a fraction of the years non-civil servants can. Doubt the politicians have the political will to tackle this, it will come via a tax-payer(property owner) revolt of sorts."
Its rediculous. They can't touch current folks' pensions, everybody SCREAMS when you tell them they can't have $150k a year for life and full benefits (after retiring a $70k job).
So, Albany is asked to at least change plan options for future hires. The stupid bitch in charge of things - some assemblywoman, can't remember her name, runs labor committee - LAUGHS and then says "but that won't have any real effect for 20 years".
Fing albany morons.
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Response by somewhereelse
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BTW, this is clearly going to have a negative effect on prices.... (and I'm pretty sure many of us predicted exactly this happening".
Perfitz 100% wrong, once again!
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Response by apt23
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somewhereelse: NY is following in the footsteps of CA. It is a pity the new hires didn't get pension adjustments as a shot across the bow. All those pensioners are going to suffer when they finally have to cut the pensions -- and they will. It probably won't happen until it comes down to firing teachers or cutting the lifeblood to all the second homes of the pensioners. When the Post and the News start reporting on the money the NY pensioners are getting in daily lifestyle pieces, it will not bode well for them .
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Response by somewhereelse
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Post has been covering that stuff for years...
but the assembly and the state population are too stupid to have figured out that this is the CAUSE of the problems.
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Response by Boss77
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let's get back to the McD's. I'll admit, love the FoF. Also the Egg McMuffins.
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Response by somewhereelse
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Chicken McNuggets. I don't know if I'd call them food, but they're just heavenly....
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Response by Boss77
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Key is to get one of the mustard sauce and one bbq.
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hell no....for me, the world is a great place. you're the one who decided that everything makes me angry.
hfscomm1 - Who are you really? Do we know you? Do we debate with your other identity? Did someone hurt your feelings somewhere along the way? Is your other identity too fragile to stand up for him/herself?
So you came up with this puzzling solution to help you through your embarrassment, demonstrating your slighted brilliance by repeating the words of those who slighted you. While a novel approach I'm not sure it's giving you the desired results. It's not really making you feel better, is it Sybil? Now don't take this personally and go off inventing another personality but I think I can speak for the rest of us that your approach is uninventive, a little juvenile, and most definitely boring.
So I guess you can consider this another in your string of failures. Did you buy in 07, too?
I agree with ap23, The Police & Firemen are great(except when they are used as revenue generators handing out nuisance fines), but seriously the city can't afford the lifetime benefits that are provided to city workers who can retire after only a fraction of the years non-civil servants can. Doubt the politicians have the political will to tackle this, it will come via a tax-payer(property owner) revolt of sorts.
I entered into a lease at a new residence in 2007.
I'm so boring I get all this attention! Imagine if I had interesting stories about my bathroom or what I'm entitled to like aboutready!
more giggling? trying to figure out what kind of person enjoys this type of attention. think that spinnaker is on the right track.
Don't confuse pity with attention.
hsf is a pimply-faced 15 year old who just got kicked out of dalton for drugs. the parents bought a huge apartment in 220 RSB early '08, right after dad made MD at Lehman. mom is a selfish bitch stay-at-home mom who can't break her addictions to botox and prada. dad is currently nowhere to be found, but HSBC, the mortgage holder, is very present in their lives. hsfcomm stands for HSBC fucks completely, but in his drug-addled state he misspelled.
or maybe hsf is riversider. who knows?
i would find all of this funny, but for the fact that it must be annoying as hell for the rest of you. that someone devotes their time to following me around and quoting what i say and then possibly thinks that could bother me is unfathomable.
Here is what I don't get.
This thread has like a zillion posts complaining about this hfs guy/gal.
Yet if the people complaining simply placed him/her on ignore and stopped responding, there would be 90% fewer posts about it.
I think some posters here have a serious case of Last Word Syndrome.
oops, guilty as charged. although i've been quite good at not responding generally, probably because i truly can't be bothered. that last one was just for fun.
my vote remains riversider. and...since modern has been ignoring me for weeks, i would appear to be getting in the last word.
"then possibly thinks that could bother me is unfathomable."
Very evident I'm failing, right?
yes...it is...apparently not to you? that's your problem.
Why does it matter to you if it doesn't bother you?
i am still trying to understand the point of someone like you. think of it as a psychology experiment. you do seem to fit the profile of a pimply faced teen.
Aboutready, you studied psychology at Yale (for free), am I performing a psychology experiment? Help clarify this for your big brother.
columbiacounty, I'm going to go away for a few hours now. I'll come back and check in on you and see if you have managed to restrain yourself from following around and yelling at other old and new posters. Maybe if you can manage that for a few days (that includes passive aggressive statements like "huh?" or tendencies to ask rhetorical questions), you might have a case for your point of view about me.
Have a good day! I'll be back.
so...if i behave myself according to your rules, i'll get a passing grade? delusions of grandeur?
p.s. you obviously haven't followed me as closely as you need to be---no passive in my aggressive.
well over 1/2 of my pay goes to taxes and now more property tax! im so outta here -
gcondo - see ya! have fun living in Detroit
"I agree with ap23, The Police & Firemen are great(except when they are used as revenue generators handing out nuisance fines), but seriously the city can't afford the lifetime benefits that are provided to city workers who can retire after only a fraction of the years non-civil servants can. Doubt the politicians have the political will to tackle this, it will come via a tax-payer(property owner) revolt of sorts."
Its rediculous. They can't touch current folks' pensions, everybody SCREAMS when you tell them they can't have $150k a year for life and full benefits (after retiring a $70k job).
So, Albany is asked to at least change plan options for future hires. The stupid bitch in charge of things - some assemblywoman, can't remember her name, runs labor committee - LAUGHS and then says "but that won't have any real effect for 20 years".
Fing albany morons.
BTW, this is clearly going to have a negative effect on prices.... (and I'm pretty sure many of us predicted exactly this happening".
Perfitz 100% wrong, once again!
somewhereelse: NY is following in the footsteps of CA. It is a pity the new hires didn't get pension adjustments as a shot across the bow. All those pensioners are going to suffer when they finally have to cut the pensions -- and they will. It probably won't happen until it comes down to firing teachers or cutting the lifeblood to all the second homes of the pensioners. When the Post and the News start reporting on the money the NY pensioners are getting in daily lifestyle pieces, it will not bode well for them .
Post has been covering that stuff for years...
but the assembly and the state population are too stupid to have figured out that this is the CAUSE of the problems.
let's get back to the McD's. I'll admit, love the FoF. Also the Egg McMuffins.
Chicken McNuggets. I don't know if I'd call them food, but they're just heavenly....
Key is to get one of the mustard sauce and one bbq.
I cried the day the McRib went away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:McRib.jpg
The roll looks good.
Some numbers:
From 2003-2010, my building's gone from $3M assessed value and $80K taxes, to $7.3M assessed value and $200K taxes.