Downtown is SO over -- Midtown is the new IT neighborhood
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this is too funny. http://www.observer.com/2009/culture/its-madtown?page=0 It's Madtown! By Irina Aleksander and Meredith Bryan November 17, 2009 | 7:38 p.m Gherardo Guarducci and Dimitri Pauli, the two handsome Italian owners of Sant Ambroeus in the West Village, were sitting recently on a spacious leather banquette in the dining room of their latest venture, Casa Lever, under the watchful... [more]
this is too funny. http://www.observer.com/2009/culture/its-madtown?page=0 It's Madtown! By Irina Aleksander and Meredith Bryan November 17, 2009 | 7:38 p.m Gherardo Guarducci and Dimitri Pauli, the two handsome Italian owners of Sant Ambroeus in the West Village, were sitting recently on a spacious leather banquette in the dining room of their latest venture, Casa Lever, under the watchful Technicolor gaze of 10 original Warhol portraits (Bob Colacello, Robert Mapplethorpe, Giorgio Armani) on the opposite wall. They were recounting the restaurant’s opening party on Oct. 10, during which Madonna stopped by to sing “Happy Birthday” to Paper magazine’s Mickey Boardman, along with Penélope Cruz, Pedro Almodóvar, Debbie Harry and fashion couple Isabel and Ruben Toledo; Madonna later waved to the chefs in the kitchen. Designer Catherine Malandrino raved about the food the next day on her Facebook page. In the month since, Anna Wintour popped in with designers Dolce and Gabbana for lunch. Zac Posen visited three times in one week. And there was Mick Jagger, who dined with L’Wren Scott on pappardelle with wild boar ragout. All this despite Casa Lever’s address, which isn’t on Doyers or Church Street, down some dark alleyway past a surly bouncer. Nope: It’s on Park Avenue and 53rd Street, situated amid centralized subways lines and hapless investment banking analysts in a monochromatic gray building of its own. In midtown. “People have been going out with discomfort for a very long time,” said Mr. Guarducci, referring to downtown spots where the music is loud; the seating is snug; and countertops are sticky. “I think there is sort of a saturation of downtown and of the meatpacking district. Everyone knows that on Friday and Saturday, it’s crowded, and it’s not a crowd that for most of us is attractive. And Soho—no one really understands anymore what it stands for.” In midtown, the discriminating celebrity doesn’t have to wonder “if he’s going to sit down and eat something decent or just be slapped around by somebody that sings for a living and is 19 years old,” as Mr. Guarducci put it, like one might at West Village hot spots like the Beatrice Inn and the Jane Hotel, both recently shuttered by the city. Waris Ahluwalia, the turbaned jewelry designer and fixture in Wes Anderson films, used to be a regular at Beatrice and Jane. But two weeks ago, he hosted his birthday party at Casa Lever and a party for his new book, To India With Love, in the Pierre Hotel’s lobby bar. “I don’t make that distinction anymore of ‘Oh I don’t go above 14th Street.’ That sort of mentality no longer applies,” said Mr. Ahluwalia, who lives in the West Village. “Uptown is not that far. I mean, c’mon, I travel to India for a few days, I go to Thailand for a meeting, I go to Paris for a shoot; I think I can make it to midtown for dinner. “It’s a shift in mood,” he added. “I think we just went through a period of dirty glamour—you know, you’ve got it but you’re hiding it—and now it’s cool to have it again.” ‘YOU COULD DRESS UP AGAIN’ After years spent ducking through secret doorways past relentless doormen, suffering low ceilings, taxidermy, Mary Kate Olsen, the French Vogue editor Carine Roitfeld and her beautiful children with mysterious careers, ripped designer T-shirts and the never-ending irony of whatever feels dated and clever (i.e., Truman Capote frames, beards, hand-rolled cigarettes), midtown seems sincere. It’s a land of adults—a place where you can still be served a Manhattan straight up instead of pretending to enjoy your imported absinthe; where you can spread out in a booth without feeling the sharp elbows of a model piercing your side; and where your $40 entree and $15 cocktail look and taste like what you paid for. “Here’s the truth: When people used to say ‘downtown restaurant,’ I think they meant a place that was quote-unquote edgy and cheap and out of the way and a whole lot of fun,” wrote Graydon Carter, Vanity Fair editor and proprietor of Monkey Bar on East 54th Street, in an email. “Now they mean—with the exception of the Waverly Inn, of course—overpriced and filled with extremely skinny adults dressed like teenagers. The Monkey Bar is the complete antidote to all of that.” Mr. Carter, whose sophomore restaurant effort opened in March of this year and has attracted an incessant procession of moguls, socialites and celebrities ever since, arguably foresaw and guaranteed the reinvigoration of the longtime social wasteland between 30th and 60th streets. Subsequently, Michael White’s cavernous Marea opened in May on Central Park South to a three-star review in The Times and a steady stream of notables like Richard Gere, André Balazs and Sumner Redstone. The year-old restaurant Rouge Tomate, opposite Barneys on East 60th Street, has begun hosting after-parties for movie premieres, like a recent one for The Fantastic Mr. Fox, attended by Bill Murray and Meryl Streep. This week, nightlife photographer Patrick McMullan, downtown gallery owner Neil Grayson and chef Devon Gilroy—son of downtown restaurateur Billy—will open East Side Social Club on East 51st and Second Avenue with several other partners. Perhaps the trend was really cemented when David Chang, one of the more famous architects of cramped, casual downtown dining, announced he would open a large French Vietnamese place, Má Pêche, in the old Town space in the Chambers Hotel in January. On West 56th Street. But midtown’s most-hyped opening might just be the Pierre Hotel’s London import, Le Caprice, which announced its arrival last month with two parties: one hosted by Anna Wintour; the other attended by J. Lo and Naomi Campbell. Socialite (and Ronson matriarch) Ann Dexter-Jones sat at Ms. Wintour’s table at the first party. “Everything is attractive!” she reported of the restaurant, “from the food to the people to the service.” Recalling ’80s mainstays like the 21 Club, she continued: “What I love about going to Le Caprice is that glam has come back. You could dress up again!” Socialite Bettina Zilkha, daughter of financier Ezra Zilkha, also attended Le Caprice’s first opening; she praised its convenience to her Upper East Side home. “It’s actually really difficult during the holidays to travel all the way downtown with the traffic and everything,” Ms. Zilkha told The Observer. “There was a time when no one would have gone to restaurants in Tribeca. And when Warhol was alive, it was cool to be on the Upper East Side! Neighborhoods come in waves.” And in the new midtown, surf (also turf) is up. “I was having dinner at Monkey Bar recently with my dear friend, the artist Joseph La Piana, and Clive Davis, one of his collectors,” said socialite and Whitney Contemporaries founder Lisa Anastos, adding that the oysters Rockefeller were delicious, and that Carolina Herrera and Calvin Klein sat to her left. But why is this neighborhood so charming all of a sudden? “It feels kind of like where your parents would hang out,” suggested Prabal Gurung, a young downtown fashion designer who recently attended a party at Monkey Bar for Demi Moore’s new fragrance. “But it also feels rebellious. It’s like, ‘Shall we?’ ‘Let’s do it!’” After the Monkey Bar party, Mr. Gurung and company found themselves at the Hudson Hotel on West 58th at a party thrown by Interview magazine. The last time he partied at the Hudson: “Oh Jesus … Never?” That’s the thing, isn’t it: There is something mischievous, a terrific creepiness to being in midtown past 10 p.m., feeling like you could splash in the Seagram Building’s reflecting pool or moon the bored security guards in the empty office buildings. Screw you, bankers! CUPCAKE FATIGUE The district’s boundaries also seem increasingly, deliciously plastic, encompassing everything from the Pierre, on 61st Street and Fifth, to the Ace Hotel, on West 29th Street. On Nov. 18, the Ace (now serving Stumptown Coffee, slurp!) will host model Agyness Deyn, artist Terence Koh, gallerist Vito Schnabel and socialite Arden Wohl at a slumber party for the art organization Creative Time. The NoMad Hotel on West 28th Street, which won’t officially open till 2011, recently hosted a Halloween party attended by Kirsten Dunst, Michael Stipe, Charlotte Ronson and Barneys’ Julie Gilhart. “The West Village and downtown have gotten sooo cool, now we’re looking for new haunts in edgier parts of the city, which, ironically, is midtown,” said socialite consort Derek Blasberg. Still, some impresarios of the new midtown denied they were in midtown at all. “We’re on Fifth and 61st; are we not slightly out of midtown?” inquired Richard Caring, owner of Le Caprice, calling from London. O.K., fine, north midtown. Le Caprice’s intimate space features shiny black-and-white surfaces, a piano player and a long bar stacked—on one recent evening—with blondes of a certain age. Mr. Caring admitted that downtowners’ migration to his restaurant has not been entirely organic. “It’s an ongoing process of being able to mix a room, where you orchestrate the room so you don’t have too many, for argument’s sake, suits on one side, or on the other side too young a crowd.” The proprietors of would-be midtown destinations understand that while attracting uptowners to the East 50s may be relatively easy, downtowners can be a harder sell. Rouge Tomate, trying to create buzz last fall, blanketed certain swaths of Chelsea with fliers advertising its vegetarian-friendly fare. The Rose Club at the Plaza—the Plaza!—has enlisted Tommy Hilfiger’s nephew to perform with his jazz band on Wednesdays. But many downtowners say such efforts are unnecessary, because they’re more than happy to escape a scene that in recent years has become a Disneyfied version of itself—overrun with waddling Sex and the City tourists inhaling Magnolia cupcakes—in favor of something that suddenly feels, for all of its shrines to capitalistic endeavor, more authentic; more grown-up. “I guess in today’s culture, a bar has to be quiet enough for you to be able to text the person across the table from you,” said Mr. Grayson, part owner of the East Side Social Club. “That and bottle service killed the conversation. For me, I miss that. I miss the idea of a place that is not only a restaurant and a bar but a social think tank.” Moreover: “Downtown is supercrowded,” said designer and Washington Square Park denizen Devi Kroell, who makes bags in exotic skins and is a favorite of Sienna Miller and Rihanna. “It seems to have become that mass destination where most people hang out. A lot of designers have opened stores in the West Village and meatpacking district, but I don’t think downtown is that cool anymore. Madison Avenue is just more civilized. It’s like a quaint little village.” Ms. Kroell recently opened her first New York store on Madison Avenue at 63rd Street. (Again, north midtown.) Mr. McMullan agreed, telling The Observer he was thrilled to discover how many friends actually lived in midtown when he started telling them about his new venture, the East Side Social Club. He attributed its sudden relevance to that reliable trend arbiter, Mad Men. (Also, “it’s been kept decently clean by the mayor.”) “We all have this subliminal New York–midtowny sense of that style, the style of the buildings in that time,” he said. “That’s why I think people feel a certain comfort in midtown. It seems like there will always be a cab. You can always walk, because you know the area, more or less.” (Whereas Tribeca and the West Village require quick fingers on the MapQuest iPhone app.) Mr. McMullan said he often walks home after jobs in midtown so he can look up and admire the city’s sheer scale. Indeed, on a recent night, The Observer, instead of competing with swarms of tipsy N.Y.U. girls in their ill-fitting shoes and depressingly deflated ringlets, simply walked out of Casa Lever and onto deserted Park Avenue and hailed one of many available cabs. It felt good. Meanwhile, the future of downtown, with its ornery community boards and whiplash-inducing trend cycle, remains uncertain: “There is a good chance it’s going to reopen and there is a good chance it’s not going to reopen,” said Paul Sevigny of his dearly departed Beatrice. He added that he would never do anything in midtown. ialeksander@observer.com, mbryan@observer.com [less]
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it always works in cycles.
Took a few years, but folks finally started figuring out the the bridge and tunnel followed them downtown and to brooklyn.
OP, this is definitely happening, I've been noticing this for awhile. BTW the Upper East Side is going to end up far hipper than people think as well.
The other place that is already past its happening prime is Williamsburg--although I love Williamsburg, so it pains me to note it.
But All the young artist types I have met lately are down on Billyburg. I heard a young musician interviewed on WNYC the other day who apologized for living in Williamsburg, and then qualified it by saying she actually lives on the fringes, so it's not really Williamsburg. This is not good to hear, investors. I haven't diagnosed the problem, but there are a lot of trust fund kids there--or whatever, youngsters with no jobs and tons of money.
For the forward thinkers looking for the next big thing, my chips are on Red Hook. Suffers from transportation problems and I'm not sure how that is ever going to be resolved, but if I had money I would be investing it there for long-term appreciation. Long Island City is Not as happening, despite a some artists and music studios there.
{Manhattan real estate agent.}
"BTW the Upper East Side is going to end up far hipper than people think as well."
Based on what? The Met is going to throw out its collection and start collecting contemporary pieces? I don't think so. The UES is good at what it does - being nice, reliable, but a bit boring. In other words, a great place for stodgy, wealthy whites to call home east of Lex, and recent college grads looking for a cheaper, safer neighborhood. What makes a neighborhood hip? By most accounts, there's not much of that there (and that's just fine of course). Unless you find a 50+ Madonna to be hip.
"But All the young artist types I have met lately are down on Billyburg. I heard a young musician interviewed on WNYC the other day who apologized for living in Williamsburg, and then qualified it by saying she actually lives on the fringes, so it's not really Williamsburg."
The Williamsburg backlash has been going on for years. I don't think one musician being embarrassed really amounts to much. It's not the hippest neighborhood, but it will continue to be a destination for things new and challenging as there are established boutiques, galleries, and venues all over the neighborhood. They don't just die away in the wink of an eye. Yes, there's a growing mix of non-artist types who live here, but plenty of displaced artists still work here. Ultimately though, all this "hipness" stuff is pretty irrelevant. Fads come and go - what's really important is that both neighborhoods are established as safe and convenient areas in which to live. I think that's here to stay.
I agree that things are shifting. Midtown is very very cool right now. The next "It" neighborhood--UWS in the low hundreds up to Columbia. Next to Riverside Park, beautiful, quiet, neighborhood feel and the most incredible architecture in the entire city. It's also on the 1,2,4 train line which gets you downtown in 15 minutes or less
Get on over to nymag.com which has accurately dissected and trashed this laughable advertorial.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/11/ugh_the_observer_is_trying_to.html
The article is so bad on so many levels, but most importantly, the notion that the Observer could spot a trend, is the most fantastical notion of all!
>Based on what? The Met is going to throw out its collection and start collecting contemporary pieces?
Well, actually it has. Just not anything made by women. HOW HIP IS THAT?!
Sigh.
yes, the nymag perspective is how I read the Observer piece. I think Jared Kushner may be doing favors for some friends in his social circles. Must be upsetting to their social world order or something.
Steveh was ahead of the curve. Nice.
Thank GOD this was published.
So when can I expect the breeder and Euro-trash squatters to finally move above 23rd Street??
I caught this restaurant review and had to revive this dopey thread:
http://events.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/dining/reviews/27rest.html?ref=dining&pagewanted=all
It definitely sounds like Le Caprice is where it is all happening: "There are business travelers and older residents of the Upper East Side, a few Eurobankers and the odd plastic-surgery victim."
i knew if i stayed in midtown east long enough the coolness would follow me.
Finally, now if only the tourists would follow.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Right.
Not to argue, but East Midtown is the best neighborhood that I've lived in, in Manhattan.
The traffic is crazy, but I walk everywhere. I don't need a neighborhood to define me and my hipness. I'm an entertainment/music industry publicist.
I walk to Central Park, Nobu and other great restaurants. I walk to MOMA, the Frick, even up to the Gugg. and the Met.
A short walk to Radio City. I've even walked to The Beacon Theatre.
So, I'm happy, if not as "Hip" as some others.
"Not to argue, but East Midtown is the best neighborhood that I've lived in, in Manhattan. "
You got me there. It is quite conveniently located.
Not trying to "get you", Matt. It's safe, clean, convenient to shopping and transit. It's not far from any other, perhaps hipper, part of town. I've only been on here for the last few weeks, where do you live,Matt?
How do you like it? Is it in, hip, happening...?
"I walk to Central Park, Nobu and other great restaurants. I walk to MOMA, the Frick, even up to the Gugg. and the Met"
So the best part about east midtown is how easy it is to leave it and go to somewhere better?
Well , what to say, enjoy midtown.
Diversity is key.. in my opinion, more people head north at night, the less crowded and cheaper my favorite hangouts in the loft district
Yes, midtown is incredibly charming. Such personality.
i want you to envision a neighborhood that has good schools, fine dining, lush greenery and parks, and only requires you to use one train....this shangri-la is Matt's nabe it is of course.....Washington Heights(it is absolutely not Williamsburg)
No, the best part of East Midtown is there is no lack of entertainment/cultural activities. It's not a vast wasteland of nothingness. My friends in the entertainment biz, never complain about coming to visit me here. And, a lot of them are very "In". In Rolling Stone Magazine, for one example.
My doorman has quite a collection of autographs.
To each, their own choice of what is "in", and where it is.
I like wmburg but I do find it weird how many people slam it. Since I started looking around there I've asked tons of young people if they like it,know anyone there,etc. and I very often get comments like "hipsters irritate me", "i lived there, it's overrated". "it's not as cheap as you think", etc..I really don't care, I still like it, but something about the place seems to grate on some cool people. Part of it may be a natural reaction to being told something is "cool" too many times.
"Since I started looking around there I've asked tons of young people"
Try broadening your demographic to grown-ups.
The over 40s always say "wmburg is really cool", it's the under 30s that express doubts. That said, over in wmburg, people really seem to like it, and people are very friendly and kind of laid back. I like the vibe, but I'm not sure I like the idea of having to get on a train, no matter how quick, every day. When I lived in CHelsea I could easily go weekends or other days without taking a train...
NYCMatt: It's o.k. with me, if you live in Washington Heights, Williamsburg, or anywhere else.
That's my point: N.Y.C. is the greatest city in the world (in my well-traveled opinion, so please don't start arguing with me about that. Thanks.)
Every neighborhood has something to offer and enjoy.
Living in a neighborhood doesn't make you, me, nor anybody Better, than anyone else. Really.
If you like it where you live, then it's "in" for you.
now that is the truth....truth
have lived in many nyc nabes in the last 20+ yrs. i can honestly say i have found things about each that have made them enjoyable. this is just confirmation for me that nyc is a special place.
agree moxie - i've been in midtown east 4 years now after living in a few different spots and walking 8 minutes to work never gets old. It's certainly not the most charming hood but it works... convenient to see friends both downtown or uptown - i never feel out of touch like living in FiDi or the upper east side.
i like to bike around the west side path...and i find the east side river path less interesting...so..so...i dont want to be any further north on the east side than say 14thst....wmburg is a compromise because i can come across the bridge and go down,,,,
my point:it isnt just the hood per se for some people but proximity to the river path ; for others it is proximity to central park but i dont enjoy c park because it's just too crowded and somehow being by the water seems more head-clearing
The current discussion is kind of freaking me out. This discussion is so un-Manhattan. I thought most of us on this board were NYers, who typically have a firm understanding that a "perfect" Manhattan neighborhood for one person, by definition, is a living hell for many others.
That's what's great about Manhattan--as opposed to 718, 516 or 201, where there tends to be a clear consensus on where good neighborhoods are
"midtown" and "downtown" are now homogenous neighborhoods according to that well-known arbiter of hip-ness, the New York Observer?
I think I'll stick with the village.
Thanks to the above commenters, who supported my opinion.
Yesterday, my friend and client, Levon Helm won The Grammy Award, again.
I'd be happy living ANYWHERE today!
Thanks to any of you, who bought "Electric Dirt" , and/or "Dirt Farmer".
Levon loves his fans!
"My friends in the entertainment biz, never complain about coming to visit me here."
Maybe they're just being nice.
Or maybe they're just happy they only have to come once in a while, then go home to better nighborhoods.
;-)
Personally, e midtown, particularly the souther part, would be on the bottom of my list for places to live (and I know it pretty well, I used to live just above it in the 60s)
Well,it's good that you are somewhere else, somewhereelse.
And, my friends are nice, and come to visit me quite often. They usually walk over to my place, from The Four Seasons, or The St. Regis. Those hotels are only a few blocks away from my building.
So, I'm in the northern part. On the U.E.S. borderline.
You probably don't have anything good to say about that (or anything else) either.
Truth, don't mind the curmudgeonly haters. It's not for everyone, but as has been said ad nauseum, what is? When it comes to some people, you say potato...
Thanks, bjw. I know. To each their own, I say.
It's funny how they write these things about Madonna or some "famous chef" or the Olsens as if it were universally agreed on that the blessing of their presence is to be desired. I don't know if I'm the only one (other than kneejerk Hollywood hating heartland conservatives), but I don't just not care about celebrities, what they do, what they eat, where they go, who they slept with, what shampoo they use. I actively wish to avoid their presence and perhaps even more so the presence of people who fawn over them. So if this means FiDi is safe from hipsters, Madonna, the trendy, the celebrity spotters and any number of overhyped overblown people I will breathe a big sigh of relief.
> And, my friends are nice, and come to visit me quite often.
Thats what I said, maybe they're being nice. ;-)
> So, I'm in the northern part. On the U.E.S. borderline.
> You probably don't have anything good to say about that (or anything else) either
You probably don't read much then. I've specifically said the opposite of what you claimed.
But, hell, some people just like to play loose with the facts.
"but I don't just not care about celebrities, what they do, what they eat, where they go, who they slept with, what shampoo they use"
Agreed... but
1) some people do care, and those folks will influence a neighborhood. You might think its stupid, but if they create critical mass, pull dollars in, it can actually change teh neighborhood
2) correlation vs. causation. For some folks, its not that the celeb MAKES the neighborhood cool, its that their presence might signify that there is some draw there.
I've recently become aware of how much more expensive every day items are in midtown; in particular every deli charging $15 for a 6-pack of Rolling Rock when it's $10 just about everywhere in The Village (which isn't supposed to be cheap).