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Started by seller
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 8
Member since: Feb 2009
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Has anyone negotiated with Corcoran for a reduced fee of 4% for a direct sale (i.e. no buyers broker) I have an offer that I would be willing to take if my broker would reduce to 4%. This would put me at the low end of my acceptable range. Broker is saying firm policy does not permit it - I dont believe it. Anyone dealt with this? Thanks in advance.
Response by UWSer
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 158
Member since: Feb 2009

Stribling has gone to 5% in this situation.

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Response by inter8
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Sep 2007

You should negotiate this in the initial contract, which is always an option (not everyone will accept). I would think it represents an upside to the listing agent rather than 3% or less on a co-broke. However you should be careful as hunting for 1 or 2% to make the deal might blow the sale and in this market that could cost you more at the end of the deal.

It's real estate, everything is negotiable - just be upfront with your facts, don't try to do it after the fact - most brokers just don't want to have to take it to their direct report, if that person manages revenue there's a good chance they may accept your proposal. I can imagine C's "official" position is non-negotiable however their unofficial position may be to close the deal.

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Response by waverly
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

Of course it's negotiable. If they tell you differently, then they are lying.

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Response by manhattanfox
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2007

this is their win -- if they bring you both a buyer and rep you -- they get the % negotiated upfront. You do not get to change direction mid path. If another buyer comes in nondirect -- and offers you more -- you can selct the new buyer and they get a reduced % but a higher selling price.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2009

When you signed on with Corcoran to list the property, did you not already agree to a stated commission?

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Response by front_porch
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

It sounds like all parties are close to a deal; I would try to go up the managerial chain for approval.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by seller
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 8
Member since: Feb 2009

Yeah - I negotiated 5% up front (reduced from 6%. At a 4% fee, I hit my minimum net proceeds I was willing to take. As an added wrinkle, I just got a direct offer from someone I know for the same price as the current offer, not through the broker at all. I dont have my agreement in front of me, but in the standard agreement does the agent still have the right to the full commission in this situation?

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Response by scoots
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 327
Member since: Jan 2009

We bought from a Cororan broker and were stunned at closing when the commission was obviously not 6%. We mentioned it. The broker admitted that he'd agreed to a smaller amount to get the listing but was obviously uncomfortable that we'd noticed and commented as Cororan always claims not to negotiate. That said, of course it is easier to negotiate upfront than once an offer is on the table.

You did agree to their terms and it is a bit crap to try and reneg on that now. However, I get it as it is a win:win ... if your next buyer has a buyers broker, your listing agent will only make 3% anyway. Ditto, or more likely, if the place doesn't sell within whatever time frame you signed a contract for, you are absolutely going to yank the listing and this listing broker will get zero.

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Response by rbhomes
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 6
Member since: Dec 2007

Hello everyone,

I have made my entire living on doing exactly what you are all discussing. My name is Arbi Asadourian, owner/broker of RB Homes Realty. I have always offered discounted fees on direct sales as well as non-direct sales. It's hard for the giant companies to reduce their fees since they have so much overhead (dozens of offices and maintaing thousands of agents with their phones, computers supplies etc).

It is far more important to make the sale that will garnish me the most referrals and not necessarily the most money because in reality a good relationship is worth so much more. Just as many people have one doctor, one attorney, one caddy or one barber/stylist... I am their real estate broker.

If you are looking for an honest and hardworking broker (not agent..big difference) please look me up on either streeteasy or at www.rbhomesrealty.com -

Arbi Asadourian

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Response by Fluter
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 372
Member since: Apr 2009

Arbi, just a little technicality--

You are an agent. What you are not is a Licensed Real Estate Salesperson. You are a Licensed Real Estate Broker.

A agent in general is someone who acts on behalf of someone else. So, you can have a literary agent or a talent agent.

New York State law requires that you disclose your agency. That word, agency, means who you represent in the transaction.

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Response by rbhomes
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 6
Member since: Dec 2007

Makes sense - I wanted to illustrate that though many licensed RE salespersons falsely refer to themselves as "brokers" i in fact am a broker....a broker that is active in the field representing either the seller or buyer in a transaction as their agent.
Thanks for the concise explanation.

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Response by lo888
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 566
Member since: Jul 2008

I think Bellmarc and Elliman negotiate down. That being said we bought through a Corcoran broker direct and she didn't budge one cent even though the sellers had 2 or 3 board turn downs before us and were desperate by then.

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Response by KeithB
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 976
Member since: Aug 2009

That is why a commission rebate is the progressive model for a a buyer. Representation along with a guaranteed monetary advantage.Its what we used to call in the old days "A locked gift". (:

Keith(Broker)
http://theburkhardtgroup.com/services-and-fees-c14358.html

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Response by renters_sweetspot70
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 25
Member since: Feb 2010

seller
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report abuse Yeah - I negotiated 5% up front (reduced from 6%. At a 4% fee, I hit my minimum net proceeds I was willing to take. As an added wrinkle, I just got a direct offer from someone I know for the same price as the current offer, not through the broker at all. I dont have my agreement in front of me, but in the standard agreement does the agent still have the right to the full commission in this situation?

If you are listed with Corocoran, and your aparment sells within the time frame of that exclusive (also I believe if it sells to anyone whom the broker brought to you during the period of the exclusive for an addditional 6 months after) then you will owe them commission.

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