In New York City, about 102,000 families now have vouchers, which are administered by the authority and allow families to live in units where private landlords accept Section 8 benefits. Another 178,000 or so families live in public housing complexes owned by the authority. But last year, more landlords began to take Section 8 vouchers, and the attrition rate dropped to 3.5 percent from about 6... [more]
In New York City, about 102,000 families now have vouchers, which are administered by the authority and allow families to live in units where private landlords accept Section 8 benefits. Another 178,000 or so families live in public housing complexes owned by the authority.
But last year, more landlords began to take Section 8 vouchers, and the attrition rate dropped to 3.5 percent from about 6 percent, most likely because of the weak economy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/nyregion/07voucher.html?hpw
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NYCHA's and section 8 account for 13.5% of NYC's rental units (2,1 million). Wonder how the extra use of section 8 keeps vacancies up during recessions preventing bigger rent drops. It wouldn't be a bad idea to give the landlord less $ during periods in which market rents decline imho.
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Response by The_President
almost 16 years ago
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I don't see how performance pay is going to solve any problem. It's the students, not the teahers. Teachers in the suburbs are unionized and yet schools there perform far better than they do in the city. Teachers at Stuvyestant belong to the UFT and that has not resulted in the school being bad. If a school is failing, its because the kids don't care.
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Response by darkbird
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 224
Member since: Sep 2009
@the_president
That's because bad teachers attract bad teachers and its impossible to get rid off them. Children don't care to study anywhere - FACT, teachers can get them interested or not.
Performance pay is a must for teachers.
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Response by somewhereelse
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 7435
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> I don't see how performance pay is going to solve any problem. It's the students, not the teahers.
Really then? Then lets pay teachers $20k...
We don't have to care about the quality, right?
Alpo, as usual, you are a moron.
> Teachers in the suburbs are unionized and yet schools there perform far better
> than they do in the city.
Moron, BETTER TEACHERS are hired in the suburbs. Its a harder gig to get! And it isn't impossible to get rid of bad ones.
> Teachers at Stuvyestant belong to the UFT and that has not resulted
> in the school being bad.
Because stuy gets the best teachers in the system.
> If a school is failing, its because the kids don't care.
Again, by your logic, we should have minimum wage teachers. Because they don't matter, right?
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Response by somewhereelse
almost 16 years ago
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Btw, true story in Oceanside, LI... 1,750 applied for a teaching position that opened this year. They interviewed 3. And this is in math, a subject that is supposedly hard to hire for...
As usual, alpo has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
Darkbird... that was my point... NYC its impossible to get rid of bad teachers (and tough enough to get rid of CRIMINAL teachers).... and LI doesn't have the same stupidity.
"but I just think it's horrible to be forced to spend your golden years in a studio—you have your whole life in your home and now you have to pack it away and move?""
I don't see how performance pay is going to solve any problem. It's the students, not the teahers. Teachers in the suburbs are unionized and yet schools there perform far better than they do in the city. Teachers at Stuvyestant belong to the UFT and that has not resulted in the school being bad. If a school is failing, its because the kids don't care.
@the_president
That's because bad teachers attract bad teachers and its impossible to get rid off them. Children don't care to study anywhere - FACT, teachers can get them interested or not.
Performance pay is a must for teachers.
> I don't see how performance pay is going to solve any problem. It's the students, not the teahers.
Really then? Then lets pay teachers $20k...
We don't have to care about the quality, right?
Alpo, as usual, you are a moron.
> Teachers in the suburbs are unionized and yet schools there perform far better
> than they do in the city.
Moron, BETTER TEACHERS are hired in the suburbs. Its a harder gig to get! And it isn't impossible to get rid of bad ones.
> Teachers at Stuvyestant belong to the UFT and that has not resulted
> in the school being bad.
Because stuy gets the best teachers in the system.
> If a school is failing, its because the kids don't care.
Again, by your logic, we should have minimum wage teachers. Because they don't matter, right?
Btw, true story in Oceanside, LI... 1,750 applied for a teaching position that opened this year. They interviewed 3. And this is in math, a subject that is supposedly hard to hire for...
As usual, alpo has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
@somewhereelse
Not impossible to get rid of bad teachers? Well you have to still pay full salary for years.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nyc_to_close_rubber_rooms_for_teachers_4d4KeeM6b2PrKkUdd3cvTK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=
Oceanside, LI isn't that great school neither.
Darkbird... that was my point... NYC its impossible to get rid of bad teachers (and tough enough to get rid of CRIMINAL teachers).... and LI doesn't have the same stupidity.
http://gothamist.com/2013/10/10/sequestration_might_force_elderly_d.php
"but I just think it's horrible to be forced to spend your golden years in a studio—you have your whole life in your home and now you have to pack it away and move?""