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WSJ: Spring is blooming for Manhattan property

Started by superquant
almost 16 years ago
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Property: Spring Is Blooming for Manhattan Property By Josh Barbanel 28 April 2010 The Wall Street Journal The spring selling season in Manhattan is off to the strongest start in two years, according to major real-estate brokerage firms. But prices are sluggish. Spring is traditionally the busiest selling season and sets the tone for the rest of the year. Last year, brokers said there was no... [more]
Response by stevejhx
almost 16 years ago
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"the strongest start in two years"

Much akin to saying that that Titanic is closer to rising since they finally found it on the bottom.

"according to major real-estate brokerage firms."

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Look at conveyance tax records, get back to me.

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Response by inonada
almost 16 years ago
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"Kelly Mack, president of Corcoran Sunshine Marketing, said that sales at the Rushmore had surged in the last month "like a light switch turned on," and the lower priced units, under $2 million, had nearly sold out."

Thank god it only nearly sold out, probably means I can buy one of the last ones. How come they didn't list Kelly's phone number?

About 3-4 years ago, I do believe that were claiming that were nearly sold out as well. You know, sell 6 apartments, then decide you've only opened up 8 for sale. If you happen to sell 8, "open" up another 2.

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Response by technologic
almost 16 years ago
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And this is yet another example of trying to conflate volume/activity and prices.

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Response by truthskr10
almost 16 years ago
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As I stated in an earlier thread, Corcoran is the most delusional and their brokers drink the kool aid like they are immune to diabetes.

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 16 years ago
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"Much akin to saying that that Titanic is closer to rising since they finally found it on the bottom."

Are you implying a bottom steve?

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Response by stevejhx
almost 16 years ago
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I just knew some silly bull would pick up on that! I debated about the analogy, but since malraux and spunky are long gone, it might as well have been Juicy!

There will be a bottom someday, JuiceMan - about 50% below from where we are now, when rents = owners' carrying costs. Just because they found the Titanic doesn't mean it's in any position to be raised - further subsidence seems more likely.

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Response by front_porch
almost 16 years ago
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"Juliette"?

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 16 years ago
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According to steve, we were supposed to be 50% off of 2007 prices in 2008, 2009, and 2010. Since we are actually only 15% off of 2007 prices, when does steve predict we'll see 50% off 2010 prices? Does anyone actually take him seriously or has he become the SE jester? steve, are you wearing a funny green hat with bells on it?

Tough to take steve seriously when he can't even calculate the square footage of his own apartment.

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Response by LICComment
almost 16 years ago
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JM, you should check the thread on buying and renting. I and others exposed steve's ignorant assertion that owner's carrying costs must be equal or less than rents on day 1 in order for a purchase to be justified. This is ridiculously stupid. steve did his typical downward spiral trying to defend that one.

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Response by kstiles99
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2009

Terribly written article (intern, perhaps?). Why do they use the same sentence twice? Are they REALLY trying to bring this point home?

Still, brokers said they don't sense a market frenzy and buyers are trying to be careful not to overpay.

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Response by Jerkstore
almost 16 years ago
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Wow, all those brokers as sources! Rupert is really sprucing up the joint!

Quoth one Geico caveman: "Next time do a little research?"

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Response by stevejhx
almost 16 years ago
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"Since we are actually only 15% off of 2007 prices"

And where did you get that figure, Juicy?

Most people calculate 25%.

"I and others exposed steve's ignorant assertion that owner's carrying costs must be equal or less than rents on day 1 in order for a purchase to be justified"

HAHAHAHA! BJW said it would be a good investment to break even after 15 years.

GOOD FOR YOU!

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Response by somewhereelse
almost 16 years ago
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no wonder steve is broke.

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Response by bjw2103
almost 16 years ago
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"HAHAHAHA! BJW said it would be a good investment to break even after 15 years."

Here's an idea. Stop lying. Maybe someone will finally listen to you then.

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 16 years ago
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"And where did you get that figure, Juicy?

Most people calculate 25%."

25% off of 2008 prices, 15% off of 2007 prices. Source is Miller Samuel but I can't put my finger on the chart, it was posted in a SE thread somewhere.

So when will we see 50% off steve? You have been wrong for 3 years so when will you be right?

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 16 years ago
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"Maybe someone will finally listen to you then."

doubtful

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Response by sisyphean
almost 16 years ago
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Doesn't this article seem perfect material for a musical! Instead of "The Producers" why not call it "The Brokers." With my apologies to Mel Brooks, I would submit the following for the main production number.

Springtime for Dolly

Real Estate was having trouble, what a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader to restore its former glory
Where, Oh where was she? Where could that girl be?
We looked around and then we found
The girl for you and me.
And now it's..

Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.
Buyers are happy and gay
We're selling homes at a faster pace
Look out, here comes a bidding race

Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.
Winter for renters and bears
Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.,
Come on, Brokers, go into your dance

I was at the Rushmore party, and I won a round of golf
Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come and be a mortgage party

Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.
Twelve-steps the new step today
Home prices falling from the skies again
Dow Jones is on the rise again

Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.
Broker fees are rising once more

Springtime for Dolly and N.Y.C.
Means that soon we'll be going
We've got to be going
You know we'll be having a bidding war!

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