I'm bored with Streeteasy

Just rent a place in East Hampton for the summer -- they're practically free -- and wait until the conversation here begins to effervesce again.

Not sure it will be interesting in the fall.

You can come out to East Hampton, Alan. Stay with us. We are very effervescent.

positive....you really think this super slow motion train wreck will not speed up at all? Seems the gov't is purposefully slowing it down, can they retain that power much longer? I'm hearing that bank failures are about to accelerate.

Thanks, Truth! I'll phone from the Cannonball.

Market down 300. Thanks Barry

Alan: My B.F. is on his way back from water-sporty activities in Montauk.
We can frolic in the pool, until he gets home.Then he will fire up the grill.

Unless you want to go out for dinner at N&Ts, and spitball finance-types.

We will spitball all Wall Street bankers!!!

Are you in, finallyjoy?

Alas, I have yard work on my 6x13 ft. lanai ... but that sounds fun!

I cannot stand it any longer. I just turned on my A/C on full. Screw Al Gore.

Does Gore get the drip one floor below?

No, uwsmom. My lousy ass building is way below Gore's standards. Somehow turning on the A/C seems less about trashing the environment and more about supporting Tipper.

Don't support that censoring so-and-so! I never liked her.

And "Tipper" sounds like the name of a cow near the University of Vermont or some such place.

When you run your air conditioning, just think of all those 3500sf houses in southern Arizona that have their a/c turned down to 64 degrees 24/7 for 9 months of the year.

seems like a lot is below his standards these days.
i think this thread, and SE by extension, is getting more exciting by the minute.
i'm off to break in my new birkenstocks.

Thanks for the perspective, alan. Cooling my lilliputian studio a bit isn't going to kill much ozone.

Anyway, the ozone just wafts off to Ozone Park. That's the part of Queens where all the fluorocarbons hang out.

See how interesting this SE thread is now?!

Yes Walter, it will be glacial.

Did you see that stat in the times article about our (NY) turnaround time for a foreclosure?

Who do you want to spitball more? Wall Street guys who sold bonds or the deadbeats that sign a contract and refuse to pay?

Spitball both types.

I paid cash for my condo. (Not that I'm complaining. Just didn't buy until I could afford to pay.)

Lets spitball politicians.

Truth, what's the real deal with this place?:

http://streeteasy.com/hamptons/talk/discussion/13967-30-morris-park-lane-east-hampton

i am looking for a short term rental in southhampton for a week or so at end of july. if anyone knows anyone please let me know! have a summery weekend everybody : )

Truth,
You're .001% of the population. On that note, I agree with glamma. Time to turn off the computer and go enjoy the weather. Until Monday....

I am the outlier. I refuse to turn the A/C on.

bitch and moan, dissect the details, argue the inconsequential, name call, act offended.

all much cheaper than therapy and, more effective with the outside chance of a RE score!

pos...ya just need a little sun. (don't forget the SPF30+ 'cause the UV will mutate the one unsuspecting cell that will....) nyc10023 turn the air on and live a little. I'm going to eat all the shrimp I can 'cause soon, they be gone. Same for those pesky fossil fuels.

If you are on this site and looking for fun you are a poor misguided soul who needs real help, oh and by the way pretty full of yourself also!!!!

What's the correct site for fun? [Keep it family-friendly.]

Falco: nope. Just 'coz you can doesn't mean you should. I suppose you're gonna grab yourself some shark's fin soup and bird's nest while you're at it.

I'm with you 10023, the A/C only comes on in extreme situations and then for as short a time as possible. And this is not a financially choice (although saving $$$ is a plus). On a day like today, open windows and a fresh breeze are the best. When it gets really sticky and hot, I will turn it on--mostly for the cats--who wants to hang out in a fur coat when its 90+. We didn't have A/C when I was a kid and our family cat spent half the summer on the bathroom floor.

If you don't get the fun on this site, you just don't get it.

Ever had shark's fin soup in a bird's nest, chilled by a 45K BTU A/C unit? It's absolutely divine.

We tried the no A/C open windows thing for a little while. Then we discovered that heat rises: the top floor in our place will go over 100 degrees on an 80-degree day without A/C. Each floor down drops by about 10 degrees. The people below don't run their A/C, which contributes to our 100-degree-plus top floor as the heat just crawls up the outer walls, so we have to effectively cool down the whole building. So, if you're in a big building with A/C-ed hallways and/or neighbors who use their A/C, don't fool yourself into thinking that fossil fuels are not going to your comfort. The "open windows and fresh breeze on an 80-degree day" yields 104-degree temperatures for some of us poor souls, and those poor souls eventually cry uncle and burn the fossil fuels for you.

All this led to my understanding of why servants were given the top floors back in the old days. One night of tossing and sweating at 4 in the morning with 97-degree heat and 100% humidity like I was in Calcutta did me in.

Too bad we can't use swamp coolers here.

Alan... What's a swamp cooler?

They work where the humidity is low. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler

You still see them in Arizona. When my mother was a kid there, everybody had them and real AC was a luxury.

Alan : Local lore has it that the house is haunted by the boogie man.

Nada, I totally get where you are coming from on the A/C issue. I think the reason I enjoy the A/C off is because I always have the option (like now) of turning it ON. Believe me, I grew up on the top floor of an unairconditioned building--even if anyone could afford one the wiring couldn't handle it--so I know about that 90 degree days without relief. My mother didn't turn on the oven from June until September, we got pretty f'ing sick of tuna salad/salmon/hard boiled eggs and the other delights of "cold dinner". Everyone in the building kept their doors open to circulate air so you really knew more about your neighbors business than you cared to. The only good thing: it was always cooler outside so when I was young we would take a walk to buy baseball cards or ice cream cones and then a when we got a little older everyone's mother let them hang out a little later at night 'cause it was cooler outside. We were supposed to stay on someones stoop but you know how that goes.....

Hot town summer in the city.......(Trivia Point: John Sebastian was actually living a block away from me in what's now the WVillage when he wrote that song. Of course at the time of its release my musical taste was running more to "The Itsy Bitsy Spider" or "Theme From Mickey Mouse".)

I got bored a long time ago partially because the hype to buy bought down and I got sane, part because just the nature of me and everyone here.

I learned to count on hot summer nights when we walked up Broadway towards Baskin-Robbins. We counted prostitutes, so we were lucky that the Baskin-Robbins was north of 86th Street, in the police precinct that tolerated them. The precinct south of 86th was on the take for drugs, not ladies. I liked Jamoca Almond Fudge. I never understood Rocky Road.

NWT, I'm fascinated by "old" Arizona, by which I mostly mean the 1950s-1960s. Just exactly where and when did your mom live there? Did her tract housing subdivision have a colorful name? Did she have food trees in her front and back yards (citrus, pomegranate, date palm, etc.? Twin carports?

NYCDreamer, latent energy of evaporation. You leave all your windows open and air blasts through them from the roof, but first it's cooled by magic. Much nicer than shutting yourself off for refrigeration. It stops working when you build too many golf courses and water them like they're a tropical rain forest, plus you build too many fake lakes.

alan, you are very funny. I remember streetwalkers along Broadway back in the 80s. The nicest one I ever recall seeing was working in front of a vacant lot at W 86th street, which is now the Boulevard Cond-op. The most awful--getting solicited on my way to church one Sunday morning on W 96th st

Ino; so true about the high floors. when we had the heat wave in may we didn't have a/c cause this co op voted not to change over from heat till may 22. we were dying in here. even the cat couldn't take it. but i now know that i will never buy in a co op that doesn't have independent heat/cool system. crazy to pay ridiculous rent and not be able to sleep in the swelter. jeez.

alan: rocky road must be a girl thing cause i get it . i really get it.

There was an exhibit at the Palais de Tokyo in Paris recently that had a dark cold chamber - something like 20 below - and you got shocked with static electricity just in the air. They limited you to 5 minutes inside of this relatively small refrigerator. I didn't go in.

I have a new rule about ice cream -- I don't eat it unless I make it. Sometimes, I don't follow the rule.

alanhart, she was there for several years in the 1940s, shuttling between Tucson and Pennsylvania with her retired grandparents. In the 1950s-1970s, in western NY, we'd get Arizona Highways magazine, so I always thought of AZ as beautiful and carpeted with wildflowers. The reality was a shock.

Now my parents live in Mesa in a tract called Dreamland(!). No twin carport, but citrus, palm, oleander, etc. My favorite is their original 1972 all-electric kitchen, with the cooktop buttons up in the rangehood. A friend of mine here in NY was born and raised in Mesa, the child of the only Jewish farmers in town. She remembers it pre-boom, with one little high school, etc.

Very funny, SNs.

Apt23, my recommendation for the May heat wave is what I call personal A/C. Break out the blender and constantly drink crushed ice drinks with a minimal amount of sweetness.

OK, following up, let me say that I'm very intimidated by lizyank. It's been in my head all damn day long, so out with it. Dream sequence goes like this.

inonada: I walked by the Morrison Gallery today.

lizyank: Oh the place with the replica from Jim's album cover? Really a nice guy -- hung out with him back -- too bad about what went down, and then Pamela, poor girl. Not to speak ill of the dead, a bit of a lecher to be honest, but I think he'd be happy with that label. Now Mick Jagger, that guy was a real skeezer.

I am intimidated by most NYC natives, period.

Never met Morrison. Girl I knew I from around the corner (couple of years older than me but our mothers knew each other and I think it was from PTA) had a "thing" with Hendrix when he was recording at Electric Ladyland (and for which today he could be looking at serious time...this girl was YOUNG). Jagger was my dreamboat in high school until he starting running around with the office boy from Island Records, the one who didn't do such a great job of bathing or otherwise maintaining common rules of hygiene.

I don't mean to intimidate anyone (except maybe some assholes a distinction for which we all know nada doesn't qualify)...actually I'm probably pretty pathetic..crotchety old broad bitching about the good old days. At dinner tonight I was talking to my friend about the leather bar that was across from our house when I was in jr high/high school and some of the fights that used to go on in the summer, remember windows always open. She said "didn't your parents get concerned about what you were exposed to"....I looked quite quizzical and said..."No. That was just what happened with a leather bar. The managers lived in our building and they liked them."

The truth, what I wanted more than anything until I was about 12 and realized I had it made (by which time I had also started smoking pot), was to be a "normal" kid like your saw on TV...a kid who lived in a house with a fence and yard, whose parents had a car and who belonged to the country club or reasonable facsimile (not the Carmine Street pool). It always seemed that Gidget had it so much better...

"the office boy from Island Records" ... you mean Jann Wenner?

Screw you, Yank! You're like that guy I saw at the gym yesterday. Take inonada back in his best shape during the lost years of grad school when he went to the gym 5 days a week for an hour-and-half a day when he was being lazy. Except add more muscles, all super-cut & lean. Throw on top one of those floopy-cool haircut. Then, this a-hole gets on the treadmill and starts running at 10mph as warm-up for 15 minutes before his real workout.

Screw you, man! It's people like you that make the rest of us consider waxing our body hair. We had a good thing going, but then you had to escalate.

Don't misunderstand me...when I said Jagger was my dreamboat, I meant it as in teen idol--posters all over the bedroom, worship at the altar, be the man who protects the virtue of teenage girls because all of the accessible boys get qualified as "he's no Mick Jagger". I may have met Mick once or twice before you were born nada but I can hardly claim to have known him. I only brought it up because you did.

And you are DAMN good shape today. To the extent that its appropriate to acknowledge this in a married man, I'd say damn that guy has a nice build. Any more attention to body detail starts to transcend health and define extreme vanity unless you are making millions of $$$ as an athlete.

Friends????

i am firmly in the no a/c camp. did everyone have a good weekend? went to coney island yesterday to see the new luna park and knock back a few cold ones at cha chas... ahh, summer came early this year!

no a/c? saving the planet isn't on my agenda for this lifetime, though i HATE air conditioning. gives me headaches! but this weekend was killer. could be our blazing southern exposure that i swore i would never complain about (yikes!). we were (and will continue to be all summer) in the sprinklers for as long as possible. but back home, i had two sweaty little balls of unhappiness the minute we set foot inside. i think the a/c saved our family. sorry planet earth.

i vote Morrison! Mmmm. sexy slithering piece of dysfunctional meat.

"i think the a/c saved our family." I think AC has also been linked to reduced "inner city" crime.

Now will somebody please quote the "more murders committed at 92 degrees" thing from some movie ... Ali, I think you were the one who knew exactly what I meant ... ?

Come on now, Alan: You know that Jann Wenner never worked at Island Records.

He started Rolling Stone in San Francisco, and eventually moved the main office to N.Y.C.

I can only speak for myself: Jann has always been very kind and supportive to me, and to all my friends' and clients' projects and products.

Sorry, Truth, but I can never remember anything about Jann Wenner's office boy, so it's more fun to picture him as Jagger's office boy. And the Island Records office boys are just dyin' to meet him.

"Friends????"

Nah, let's go even bigger: BFF. I was just messing around, I'm sure you know. No need to apologize for the fact that you're just cooler than the rest of us. In any case, I'm glad that Sir Jagger was there to protect the virtues of our fair young ladies back in the day.

I believe at the time I was speaking about Jann Wenner may have lived in New York (don't actually remember what year RS moved) but regardless he was deep in the closet at the time--happily married man and all that. Lion of publishing. Just like Malcom Forbes.

There is absolutely no dispute in the correlation between high temperatures and crime, especially murder. In the book "Homicide: A Year On the Streets" David Simon (future creator of "The Wire) refers to: "You knew summer was here when Baltimore had its first disrespect murder of the season.") During the 60s no one ever was wary of the "long cold winter" when warning about riots. Heat without a/c forces people outside, shortens tempers and usually mandates "refreshing" with beverages and substances more substantial than Pepsi.

I feel more than a frisson of resentment when I see the NYCHA tenants in my nabe rush home to their extremely ill-insulated homes running the AC full blast. Is it all worth it so they are not on the streets running amok? You tell me. I try to keep windows open and the fans on.

Title of this thread got me thinking. Can Easy Street survive long term in a flat or declining real estate market. I don't think so. More people will get bored. NY Times Real Estate section isn't doing so well these days either.

Me and the rest of the peanut gallery notwithstanding, this site's ability to thrive rests on its effective MLS-ization of the RE market for the masses. Up or down, peanut gallery or not, people will continue to use this site for transparent market info. That's what brought all of us here, and that ain't gonna change.

Maybe the confounding reason for the low crime rate, given the downturn, is the proliferation of AC units and cheap energy. Not only does it cool tempers, but it keeps people off the streets.

So all we need to do is throw monkey wrenches at window ACs and crime will get so bad that the RE market will fall to its appropriate level?

Did you know that more murders are committed at 92 degrees than at any other temperature?

--It Came From Outer Space (1953)

Lizyank,

I do get the site. I've been here for 2 years. There used to be interesting discourse.

Spain is about to show Europe just far prices can go peak to bottom. We'll see how many foreign buyers we have when the euro dips below par.

I'm just bored waiting for our microcosm to come back to reality. Until then.....

Alan: That's O.K., no need to apologize.

I read somewhere that when the nights don't get down to 70 degrees, the police used to call it "riot weather."

I still like that 1970s NY cops used to refer to "misdemeanor homicide".