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Tainted Meat

Started by PPlayer
over 15 years ago
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Discussion about
http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/commentary/content/wal-mart+stores+pulls+grab+and+go+sandwiches+off+shelves/observations.aspx?ID=101893 Tainted meat, salmonella eggs, e-coli spinach, crude oil seafood. We've had more recalls for food contamination these past 5 years than in recent history. Is this called progress in a civilized nation?
Response by printer
over 15 years ago
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If tainted food is being recalled rather than sold to unsuspecting consumers, then yes, that certainly is progress.

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Response by sledgehammer
over 15 years ago
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That's right! Just like selling you a 900sq feet apt you measure 750sq feet after you sign the contract!
America is all about illusion! David Copperfield for president!

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Response by PPlayer
over 15 years ago
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Perhaps you are missing the point, they ARE being sold to unsuspecting consumers. People fall ill, leading to the recall. The recent multi-million egg recall was from a farm factory that had multiple sanitary violations and yet nothing was done until people became sick. Children shouldn't need to die to improve food safety.

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Response by sledgehammer
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That's what i'm talking about! My friend got sick after he told me the apt he bought was 700 sq feet not 900!

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Response by truthskr10
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Maybe we are just getting better at detecting food problems and tagging them accurately?

I bet 20 years ago, anyone getting sick from these sandwiches would blame it on having mayo and being in the sun too long.
I think hypersensitivity has rum amuck these days.

DO we have a severe increase in natural disasters or a severe increase in reporting and ability to communicate such reports in thse events?

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Response by PPlayer
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You must not have gotten food poisoning before if you think it is hypersensitivity. I've had food poisoning that lead to projectile vomiting, chills and fever, bloody stool. We're not talking about someone feeling tired from being hungover and playing hooky from work. In the case of a child or the elderly we are talking about death. Everyone else is "hyper-sensitive" until it happens to you, one bout of intense food poisoning wil make your stomach turn everytime you even think about the food that made you sick.

Food safety can't be better when you're cramming millions of de-beaked, de-clawed chickens on top of each other and they are defecating on each other. That is a farm factory. My father grew up on a real farm, I trust food from a real farm. You don't need industrial strength disinfectants to have safe food on a real farm.

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Maybe we are just getting better at detecting food problems and tagging them accurately?

I bet 20 years ago, anyone getting sick from these sandwiches would blame it on having mayo and being in the sun too long.
I think hypersensitivity has rum amuck these days.

DO we have a severe increase in natural disasters or a severe increase in reporting and ability to communicate such reports in thse events?

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Response by truthskr10
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Ive had food poisoning, more than once, and it's not fun. Had all your symptoms minus the bloody stool though I confess I probably didnt look that hard.

I also used to drink water from the rustiest of garden hoses and now get chastised by my mom for not being more careful about buying counterfeit poland springs water.

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Response by printer
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Sinclair wrote 'The Jungle' in 1906 - so we can safely say that there have been food supply safety issues for a long time. What evidence do you have that things are substantially worse now?
Are there very real issues w/factory farming, etc.? Of course. Is food safety an area that the government should be involved with? Absolutely. Do we constantly need to refine our food safety oversight - absolutely. Is the occasional outbreak of e. coli or salmonella worth the tradeoff of never having to worry about food shortages as in the past or less developed parts of the world? Absolutely.

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Response by printer
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how would you know the poland spring is counterfeit?

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Response by truthskr10
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I was being somewhat facetious on the mom part...but....bottles that melt in your hand like a balloon, caps that twist off easily without the protective strip cracking away,etc.
These are just the poor knockoffs.
Bottled water is often counterfeited.

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Response by NYCMatt
over 15 years ago
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I caught the Poland Spring water guy refilling one of those 5-gallon cooler bottles intended for corporate clients from a faucet on the side of a building in an alley.

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Response by AvUWS
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That would explain why people like Poland Spring water. NYC water is some of the best tasting around.

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Response by truthskr10
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Not very green to drink (comes from Italy) but the best tasting water Ive ever had is Panna.

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Response by falcogold1
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Good news!
If you like Oil & Vinegar......

Now you only need to add the Vinegar!

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Response by printer
over 15 years ago
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2nd the Panna - I don't know the technical term, but it tastes 'dry' to me. I love that stuff.

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Response by JuiceMan
over 15 years ago
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When I read the title of this thread I thought it was about w67th

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Response by oswegocounty
over 15 years ago
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Flmao

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Response by truthskr10
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Printer
Your right, never thought of it but it is how you would describe wine as dry.

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Response by alanhart
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Panna's made by Nestlé, so it's like Nestlé Quik.

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Response by truthskr10
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Really? How disappointing.
I'd swear it was bottled by mermaids in the Alps.

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Response by alanhart
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Or squeezed out of a loaf of Wonder bread.

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Response by truthskr10
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the secret formula

Country Italy
Source Acqua Panna
Type still
pH 8.2

Calcium (Ca) 30.2
Chloride (Cl−) 7.1
Bicarbonate (HCO3) 100
Fluoride (Fl) 0.1


Magnesium (Mg) 6.9
Nitrate (NO3) 5.7
Potassium (K) 0.9
Silica (SiO2) 8.2
Sodium (Na) 6.5
Strontium (Sr2) 0.2
Sulfates (SO) 21.4

mg/l - milligrams per liter

History
In the 1500's the powerful ruling family of the Sohi's in Florence, owned the spring and it was fenced off as private property. The family had fresh drinking water from this preserved natural spring, as for many other unclaimed springs were contaminated with animal waste.

This brand now belongs to San Pellegrino, which is owned by Nestlé.

Nestle has decided to to expand distribution of the drinking water into Western Canada. Acqua Panna has become the exclusive bottled beverage at many luxury establishments. This includes the Hyatt Regency Hotel located in Downtown Calgary. Unfortunately, Edmonton and its surrounding areas were not included in the expansion and currently no establishment in Edmonton has confirmed that they carry the brand. However, reports have recently surfaced that Acqua Panna was available for consumption at the reception of Sir J Sohi. Being a private party it was very difficult to get an evaluation of the brand. One guest rumoured to be from Surrey was overheard saying " What the hell is wrong with my lips, why are they so dry, What-the hell?" Officials were unsuccesful in determining if consumption of Acqua Panna was somehow correlated to the burning lips. The Surrey Jack was later asked to review the water. He stated that he did not know if he could offer a fair assesment of the drink. However, he did mention that the water tasted Italian

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Response by somewhereelse
over 15 years ago
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reminds me of the cancer scares. Turns out cancer is down.

We just do a much better job of panicking now.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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reminds me of that really great tango number "Kiss of Fire"

http://www.lyricsbay.com/kiss_of_fire_lyrics-georgia_gibbs.html

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Response by sniper
over 15 years ago
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It is kinda weird that we are having all of these recalls. Turns out Bush/Cheney's idea of putting the guys who profit from selling as much food as cheaply and unregulated as possible in charge of monitoring the food safety wasn't such a good idea after all! It worked in the financial industry, didn't it?

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Response by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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You just reminded me of that movie THe Informant that's been all over cable lately.
Played by Matt Damon and based on the true story of a whistleblower on food price fixing in the 90s.

I coudldn't stop laughing throughout the whole movie. I can't get over how dumb the company was, the whistleblower was, the FBI was. It was Forrest Gump all around.

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Response by somewhereelse
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Wasn't that a softcell song?

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Response by alanhart
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I think Soft Cell just played the old Gloria Jones 45 at 33 rpm on their Donald Duck Close-N-Play and recorded it.

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