Obama Concedes 'Shellacking'

"In his press conference, Mr. Obama took responsibility for the sour state of relations between the White House and U.S. corporations. "I've got to take responsibility in terms of making sure that I make clear to the business community, as well as to the country, that the most important thing we can do is to boost and encourage our business sector and make sure that they're hiring," Mr. Obama said."

duh

So business will begin hiring if the president says nice things to them?

the gall of obama--stood firm to impose regulation on our banks and brokerages--stood firm that he wants to close tax loopholes (frauds) for some of our largest corporations--i'm not fond of politicians prefer to be friendly (bought by) the very corporations who buried our economy--if obamas made a few enemies there, kudos to him--now we revert to a business-owned house, and with citizen's united this is just the beginning

careful what youve wished for

Obama stood firm to increase government powers over banks without addressing the real problems, stood firm to do nothing about FNMA and FHLMC, stood firm to put our companies at a competitive disadvantage against foreign companies, and stood firm against the Constitutional right to freedom of speech.

Yes, it is galling.

> the gall of obama--stood firm to impose regulation on our banks and brokerages--

Cool to stand for improved regulation... but what they actually came up with sucked.

Standing firm for lousy legislation isn't something to brag about.

I can't believe that he's surprised by all this.. He basically went ahead with an agenda the majority of the country did not support. He also made health care a bigger priority than jobs.

Constitutional right to freedom of speech as the " You're with us or against us" freedom of speech?
Sounds like what the Bush administration had been doing for 8 years, not OBama's!

Cool to stand for improved regulation... but what they actually came up with sucked.

Sure, because they didn't restructure the banks, so instead of one year of pain we'll have ten.

"and stood firm against the Constitutional right to freedom of speech."

Right. I am sure the Teabaggers LOVE fredom of speech. They love it so much they arrest reporters.

Let's be honest, Any reporter looking to show up at a tea party head quarters is not looking to report honestly. The media is very much to the left with the exception of Fox,

Isn't it interesting that the only retort from Obama supporters is that "Bush sucked more"? When will the country realize that polarizing leaders suck regardless of what party they are from?

agreed. I liked Obama, but he's proven that he's just another crappy politician. And he proved it early, when he outsourced writing policy to congress. moronic idea.

fox is center if not slightly left of center

the whole damned rest of the media is outright pinko

Obama is smart and I think he wants to do the right thing. But it's very clear he's made a ton of errors.

"Right. I am sure the Teabaggers LOVE fredom of speech. They love it so much they arrest reporters." Great, president. Classify 40 million people based on 1 guy. With your logic, the democrats in congress are all members of the kkk, because robert byrd was a grand cyclopes with the kkk. Or, they are all misogynists because of teddy.

"fox is center if not slightly left of center"

Only far right people actually believe that

"Obama is smart and I think he wants to do the right thing"

Smart and capable are two very different animals

"Obama is smart and I think he wants to do the right thing" Maybe book smart. but i doubt even that. A lot people helped obama 'achieve' without accomplishing anything. Sort of like his Nobel award. As for doing the right thing, if you believe in extreme progressive dogma, I agree.

maybe book smart?

listen, the guy is struggling no doubt of that.

but to endlessly and needlessly insult him just makes you look like an idiot.

do you think the fucking presidency of the united states was handed to him on a platter because of a diversity requirement? or because of his family background and connections?

grow up.

Obama's version of the right thing differs from what lots of other people consider the right thing.

and so does everyone else's. that's how it works.

"listen, the guy is struggling no doubt of that." No, he was accomplishing just what he wanted. The fundamental transformation of America Only, the teabaggers as he called them, got in the way.

no, the Presidency wasn't handed to him. A democrat was going to win in '08 no matter what. He presented himself as a male alternative to Hillary, and the misogynist Democrats couldn't run to his side fast enough, with the misogynist standard bearer, Teddy Kennedy, first in line. So now, instead of an experienced politician with experience working across party lines (Hillary), we have a neophyte partisan who takes marching orders from Nancy Pelosi and Rahm Emanuel, and our nation is more divided than ever.

the issue is whether or not obama is book smart. clearly he is.

so edwards, biden et al weren't male alternatives to hilary? come on.

Remember. the tea party was fake, astroturf!!! Don't you love the dems, government spending is investments.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44q7Jt68DA&feature=fvst

so julia....endless posts of youtubes is the extent of your intellectual credentials?

"the issue is whether or not obama is book smart. clearly he is." Why, why is he smart. Because the state controlled media says so.

Remember haw smart kerry was... Great judgement, he picked 'johnie two americas' to be a heart beat from the presidency.

columbia - if he is so book smart, why has he refused to release his Occidental, Columbia or Harvard transcripts?

i have no idea. what does you paranoia suggest? perhaps along with not being born here, he didn't attend or got straight d's---made law review because of diversity requirements or because they didn't want a woman? come on, this is foolish. we have such serious problems as a nation and we endlessly debate this triva.

"columbia - if he is so book smart, why has he refused to release his Occidental, Columbia or Harvard transcripts?" Because, he doesn't want us to see something.

but who cares? what possible difference does it make at this point? you've already not only assumed the worst, you're convinced and spouting it endlessly. like it or not, he's the president for at least the next two years. his failure or success will be our failure or success. clearly you are far more interested in being right than in having anything get better. you are clearly in good company in that. good luck to all of us with that attitude.

> "fox is center if not slightly left of center"

> Only far right people actually believe that

Only if you define "far right" as most of the people in the US outside of NY.

What gets called "far right" gets pretty funny in this town.

have you ever stopped to think how much easier and faster it is to accuse someone than for that person to clear up the facts? what ridiculous portion of the country is convinced that he wasn't born here and is a muslim? are you amongst that group?

"his failure or success will be our failure or success"

an oft spouted yet completely untrue belief. he was successful in getting HCR passed, and now we are saddled (unless bailed out by the courts) with the single worst piece of legislation ever enacted into law. He was successful in passing that god-awful stimulus bill, and while i certainly hope the economy rebounds strongly and unemployment declines sharply, if people attribute that growth to this bill, and it becomes a model for future administrations, that will be a failure.

the main gripe from the people that i know and trust who know about the law is how painfully vague and subject to interpretation it is. so i think calling it the single worst piece of legislation is yet another example of unfortunate hyperbole. people in the business say that it will take years to understand its impact.

hundreds of mainstream economists have come forward and said that the stimulus bill saved significant numbers of jobs yet you call it god awful.

was it a mess? hell yeah. were we (and still are) in a mess. double hell yeah.

so easy to sit back anonymously on the internet and fire away.

and bottom line: if obama's policies fail, how can that not screw all of us?

so...while it is reasonable to be skeptical, the cheerleading for failure seems misplaced to me.

I thought I had read once that Obama's college grades were mediocre, but his law school grades were stellar.

so what?

i started out college my first semester with a 1.4 and managed to graduate with a 3.0. So what?

borrowing now and spending it now will always create jobs. its whether the borrowing was necessary, and the best way to spend it.
Obamacare, reinforces virtually everything that is bad about our healthcare delivery/payment system, does nothing to cut costs (the single biggest problem we face, not access to insurance/care, which is the problem it 'solves'), and tramples our freedoms in the process.

if Obama would like to invite me to the Oval Office so I can discuss my criticisms in person with him, I shall gladly accept. I will even bring and pay for the beer and cigarettes.

so...we've got between 15 and 20 million americans out of work. this is always going to come down to the best of the worst choices. as an anonymous internet poster, the answer is fuck 'em.

as the president of the united states, its not quite so simple.

think for a moment of what you just said:

"if Obama would like to invite me to the Oval Office so I can discuss my criticisms in person with him, I shall gladly accept.'

yo can claim freudian slip, but....

you didn't say:

"if obama would like to invite me to the oval office so i can offer up alternative solutions to this horrible mess, i shall gladly accept."

enuf said.

"borrowing now and spending it now will always create jobs. its whether the borrowing was necessary, and the best way to spend it.
Obamacare, reinforces virtually everything that is bad about our healthcare delivery/payment system, does nothing to cut costs (the single biggest problem we face, not access to insurance/care, which is the problem it 'solves'), and tramples our freedoms in the process."

printer... I would have more confidence in you as pres.. I'm not joking.

So I guess we're no longer even pretending to have an honest conversation. I thiink even printer is embarrassed by this.

Rahm out for Chicago?

he's a nazi

huntersburg/rufus, please acknowledge that you work for the campaign of future Chicago mayor Carol Moseley Braun.

/rufus?

I don't work for any campaigns.

Why do you refer to Bloomberg as Boston Bloomberg?

Bloomberg from MA, hunterburg, you know that.