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Stellar buys Windermere for $180k per unit

Started by GraffitiGrammarian
over 15 years ago
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Price struck me as low. STELLAR MANAGEMENT PURCHASES 666 WEST END AVENUE FOR $68 MILLION --$10 Million in renovations expected at 374-Unit Windermere -- New York, NY %u2013 November 22, 2010: Stellar Management today announced that it has acquired The Windermere at 666 West End Avenue for $68 million. Stellar will invest approximately $10 million in renovations to the 23%u2013story, 374-unit,... [more]
Response by stevejhx
over 15 years ago
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666...

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Response by PMG
over 15 years ago
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Stellar is buying and budgeting for renovation in unit terms about what I paid for a nearby studio condo in the mid to late 90s. I wish I could co-invest in this building on their 2010 terms.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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Percent rent-regged?

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Response by PMG
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alan, I think it had a high percentage of transient, which would suggest a lower percent regulated.

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Response by PMG
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it will be christened "660 West End Ave" on renovation--just a guess

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Response by bramstar
over 15 years ago
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I live at 666 WEA. They're trying to boot market renters by jacking up renewals to the tune of 25%-50%. An offer you have to refuse, basically.

Meanwhile, the building is overrun with a plethora of rent-controlled riff-raff, some of whom wander about in slippers and mumuus complaining loudly to anyone in earshot about bedbugs and roaches and others of whom sit around like beacons of down-market in the lobby. Honestly, if the new owners think they're gonna get rid of these folks without a fight they ought to think again. I'm looking forward to them trying to market the building as luxury rentals while cat ladies, drunks, and other assorted odd-balls drift around the hallways, mutter profanities in the elevators and lurk like transients in the laundry room.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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What is its history? Was it a hotel, a retirement home, SROs, halfway house / mental-health assisted-living?

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Response by bramstar
over 15 years ago
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Residential hotel. Many folks living here long-term are technically hotel residents. I believe, but am not certain, that there is a small handful of SROs. I may be wrong there, though. The controlled/stabilized tenants far outweigh the market renters.

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Response by bramstar
over 15 years ago
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By the way, as a market renter at 666 for the past several years I've always considered the building to be one of the best-kept secrets in the nabe regardless of some of the less-than-desirable residents. Very reasonable rent which included electric, F/T doorman, attentive staff and onsite manager, apartments with large-scale prewar rooms, super-easy access to shopping, dining, subway, etc.

A shame it's all coming to an end.

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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
over 15 years ago
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Bramstar, why do they want to get rid of market-rate renters?

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Response by bramstar
over 15 years ago
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Graffiti--

My understanding is they want to reclaim as many apartments they can so they can begin the reno. The stabilized/controlled tenants cannot be shaken loose but the market renters can be smoked out with super-high renewal offers. That's what been happening--some market renters are choosing to suck it up and pay while others are bailing.

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Response by Octaboy
about 15 years ago
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Response by bramstar
about 15 years ago
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Word has it they're planning to change the address from 666 to something more palatable to the superstitious...

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