Well, Sarah Palin was right. A govt. death panel has killed someone. Except this is not an Obama death panel. This is a death panel run by Jan Brewer, the REPUBLICAN governor of Arizona. Congratulations Jan Brewer’s Arizona, your death panel was effective. Mark Price has died. PHOENIX — A Valley man who took center stage in the debate over state budget cuts that stopped funding for certain... [more]
Well, Sarah Palin was right. A govt. death panel has killed someone. Except this is not an Obama death panel. This is a death panel run by Jan Brewer, the REPUBLICAN governor of Arizona.
Congratulations Jan Brewer’s Arizona, your death panel was effective. Mark Price has died.
PHOENIX — A Valley man who took center stage in the debate over state budget cuts that stopped funding for certain transplants has died.
Mark Price, 37, had battled leukemia for about a year. He died at a Valley hospital Sunday from complications of chemotherapy treatment.
Price hoped for a bone marrow transplant, but was notified in September that the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System would not fund the $250,000 operation because it had stopped paying for certain transplants due to budget cuts. An anonymous donor came forward in October and offered to pay for the transplant. However, Price died before the procedure was done.
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Response by Wbottom
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lovely...healthy for the wealthy....makes a good american proud
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Response by notadmin
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> An anonymous donor came forward in October and offered to pay for the transplant. However, Price died before the procedure was done.
wow, so sad! health care is being rationed all over the place (no less through those that are uninsured). wonder how on earth grandma doesn't have the guts to see that, that not 100% of the issues are about herself, the AARP and Medicare. she could take a look at how her kids and grandkids health care system work. shame on you old folks!
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Response by vicdoty
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What else do we know about Mark Price before jumping to conclusions on this?
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Response by julialg
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"how on earth grandma doesn't have the guts to see that, that not 100% of the issues are about herself, the AARP and Medicare. she could take a look at how her kids and grandkids health care system work. shame on you old folks!"
The old are greedy as hell. The seniors in the 'gated communities' who golf all day and get a fat ss check and every conceivable medical procedure for free make me vomit. Oh, i forgot. they 'paid' for it. Society crumbles under a massive debt(14 trillion and counting) and the old are entitled to confiscated resources from the productive.(for votes). Please, if you're 35 and under revolt against the bankrupting of your future.
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Response by vicdoty
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If you want the flu shot and you are old, you get it for free.
If you are young, working, productive, you have to pay out of pocket.
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Response by notadmin
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> if you're 35 and under revolt against the bankrupting of your future.
of course! i do that by not working for a wage. do you know that practically all of the tax revenue comes from wages instead of from property, consumption and tariffs as it used to be before WWII? taxing wages was supposed to be temporary to pay for the war but now it accounts for 80% of gov revenue. bottom line: if 35 and younger the plan should be not to rely on wage income as soon as possible.
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i'm all for supporting the old, disable and dependent that would otherwise fall in deep poverty.
but it's about time to mean test both medicare and SS. subsidizing inheritances of those at golf communities doesn't work as an incentive to work hard on my part.
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"i'm all for supporting the old, disable and dependent that would otherwise fall in deep poverty." agreed But that's it.......
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Response by alanhart
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We live in a Great Society ... we're all dependent upon one another.
But absolutely, means testing prior to benefits distribution is necessary ... not at time of contribution, so there should be no income cap or pay-in max on mandatory SS contributions.
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Response by LICComment
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Again, Pres is idiotically wrong. Liberals never let facts get in the way of their conclusions:
From the Arizona press:
But Banner Health said the death was not related to insurance. They said it was because of the recurrence of his leukemia and its complications. An anonymous donor was waiting in the wings to pay for the transplant when Price was ready for it. Price's leukemia had to be under control before the transplant could happen, said Dr. Jeffrey Schriber, a Banner transplant specialist who was treating Price. That's why Price was undergoing the chemotherapy. Schriber said Price's transplant team was "ready to jump" into the transplant but had to step back until the chemotherapy was done.
See, just as LICcomm attests, we're all dependent on one another. The Great Society.
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> We live in a Great Society ... we're all dependent upon one another.
well... being a young potential 1st time buyer during the biggest housing bubble taught me a lot about how society works. the "we are on the same boat" is what people that had been screwing you say right after the screwing stops. just my sad experience.
the AARP is going to get tired saying "we are all in this together" once means testing becomes inevitable... but remember that the AARP could care less about the young by making entitlements the 3rd rail. just like greedy homeowners during the bubble. my answer to both is:
"you've been treating us like 2nd class citizens, now you are 2nd class too... you are right, we are together".
lovely...healthy for the wealthy....makes a good american proud
> An anonymous donor came forward in October and offered to pay for the transplant. However, Price died before the procedure was done.
wow, so sad! health care is being rationed all over the place (no less through those that are uninsured). wonder how on earth grandma doesn't have the guts to see that, that not 100% of the issues are about herself, the AARP and Medicare. she could take a look at how her kids and grandkids health care system work. shame on you old folks!
What else do we know about Mark Price before jumping to conclusions on this?
"how on earth grandma doesn't have the guts to see that, that not 100% of the issues are about herself, the AARP and Medicare. she could take a look at how her kids and grandkids health care system work. shame on you old folks!"
The old are greedy as hell. The seniors in the 'gated communities' who golf all day and get a fat ss check and every conceivable medical procedure for free make me vomit. Oh, i forgot. they 'paid' for it. Society crumbles under a massive debt(14 trillion and counting) and the old are entitled to confiscated resources from the productive.(for votes). Please, if you're 35 and under revolt against the bankrupting of your future.
If you want the flu shot and you are old, you get it for free.
If you are young, working, productive, you have to pay out of pocket.
> if you're 35 and under revolt against the bankrupting of your future.
of course! i do that by not working for a wage. do you know that practically all of the tax revenue comes from wages instead of from property, consumption and tariffs as it used to be before WWII? taxing wages was supposed to be temporary to pay for the war but now it accounts for 80% of gov revenue. bottom line: if 35 and younger the plan should be not to rely on wage income as soon as possible.
i'm all for supporting the old, disable and dependent that would otherwise fall in deep poverty.
but it's about time to mean test both medicare and SS. subsidizing inheritances of those at golf communities doesn't work as an incentive to work hard on my part.
"i'm all for supporting the old, disable and dependent that would otherwise fall in deep poverty." agreed But that's it.......
We live in a Great Society ... we're all dependent upon one another.
But absolutely, means testing prior to benefits distribution is necessary ... not at time of contribution, so there should be no income cap or pay-in max on mandatory SS contributions.
Again, Pres is idiotically wrong. Liberals never let facts get in the way of their conclusions:
From the Arizona press:
But Banner Health said the death was not related to insurance. They said it was because of the recurrence of his leukemia and its complications. An anonymous donor was waiting in the wings to pay for the transplant when Price was ready for it. Price's leukemia had to be under control before the transplant could happen, said Dr. Jeffrey Schriber, a Banner transplant specialist who was treating Price. That's why Price was undergoing the chemotherapy. Schriber said Price's transplant team was "ready to jump" into the transplant but had to step back until the chemotherapy was done.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/11/30/20101130markprice1130.html#ixzz16s0kZQz6
See, just as LICcomm attests, we're all dependent on one another. The Great Society.
> We live in a Great Society ... we're all dependent upon one another.
well... being a young potential 1st time buyer during the biggest housing bubble taught me a lot about how society works. the "we are on the same boat" is what people that had been screwing you say right after the screwing stops. just my sad experience.
the AARP is going to get tired saying "we are all in this together" once means testing becomes inevitable... but remember that the AARP could care less about the young by making entitlements the 3rd rail. just like greedy homeowners during the bubble. my answer to both is:
"you've been treating us like 2nd class citizens, now you are 2nd class too... you are right, we are together".