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Can't Refi due to Fannie 10% reserves guideline

Started by Splot
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009
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Just hit a wall with my refi. Was told that refi won't get approved since my condo did not put 10% of operating expenses in reserves last year (although total reserve is very healthy). Anyone else have this problem? Maybe a suggestion for a work around?
Response by Universal
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Jul 2010

You can still get your refinance done assuming your loan meets certain characteristics. Give me a call if you want to explore this further. I'm a broker with Universal Mortgage. 212-401-0854

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Response by UES_Buyer
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 212
Member since: Dec 2008

This is a real issue. My building is not compliant. Apparently a lot of condos aren't, b/c the Fannie requirement is dumb and they are hoping it goes away. To get compliant requires a 10% raise in maintenance, not something anyone wants while the economy is so weak. Banks were giving exemptions but I'm told that those have dried up now.

Would also be interested in other people's thoughts.

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Response by Riversider
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 13572
Member since: Apr 2009

The requirements are ridiculous. Having a building perpetually add 10% to the reserves makes no sense, unless their is something big to fund. Try another bank. This is an over-reaction to the credit crisis. The 10% Fannie requirement is only relevant if they intend to sell the loan to Fannie or Freddie.

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Response by rentingbrooklyn
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 13
Member since: Mar 2009

One of the dumber FM reqs for sure. If the reserve is really healthy enough I know you can get a waiver. Try another lender

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Response by stevejhx
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2008

Hmm. Riversider, godfather and godmother of all conservatism, is on the side of asset bubbles and speculation again.

The requirement isn't 10% per year forever. It is 10% of operating expenses, meaning one month's expenses, more or less. Considering current default levels, seems reasonable to me.

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Response by Riversider
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 13572
Member since: Apr 2009

Assuming constant budget, 10% per year means a reserve fund equal to the actual budget at the end of a ten year period. so for a building with a five million dollar budget, your requiring an equal reserve fund after ten years and a reserve fund of twice the budget in 20 years. Any reserve fund that doesn't take into account projected building needs and the ability to assess residents is assinine. And many buildings can easily do an assessment equal to one months common charges.

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Response by inonada
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 7952
Member since: Oct 2008

What about inflation? Suppose the reserve fund is at 3 years' budget. If you add 10% of a year's budget to it annually, it grows by 3.3% a year only, just a hair above inflation expectations, effectively leaving it flat.

Now if the reserve fund is only 1 year's worth, then adding 10% a year simply keeps pace if inflation runs at 10%. Maybe the FMs are full of inflationistas just like this board....

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Response by UES_Buyer
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 212
Member since: Dec 2008

Pretty much all lenders sell to FM. Or at least all the big ones, with the best rates. I've been told waivers are not possible on this point anymore (they were a little while ago, since buildings were providing letters stating that they "intend" to comply in the future, but that time is over).

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Response by bugelrex
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 499
Member since: Apr 2007

Anyone take a guess at what percentage of NYC buildings are negatively affected? 2%, 10%?

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Response by streetsmart
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 883
Member since: Apr 2009

Give me a call. I'm a mortgage broker, have my own firm

Ellen Silverman 212-786-9682.
www.esfunding.instantlender.com

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Response by jimmcp
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 58
Member since: Jul 2009

The FNMA reserve requirement isn't necessarily. There is a program called limited review which states that if the building is existing and the HOA has been turned over to the home owners you can get around the reserve requirement, as long as the building is less that 20% commercial and no one entity owns more than 10% of the units. What building are you looking to refi in?

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Response by tdadlani
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2008
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Response by gcondo
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 1111
Member since: Feb 2009

So, bvllsh!t regulations are pushing people to loan sharks now?

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 9003
Member since: Dec 2008

Yeah, as opposed to 21% credit cards.

Regulations like FDIC? Regs like FDA? Regs like abortion rights? Regs like you are only responsible for $500 for fraud?

Ppl Fking smoke in front of their new borns..... Ppp are complete Fking financial foolz.

It's like allowing ppl to buy smokes at a duane reade...... Maybe if they had to get a mortgage at a street corner, it'll make them think twice.

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 9003
Member since: Dec 2008

Gcondo, enjoy your new purchase while I laugh it down to $500psf. Tis just the tip of the iceberg, fk the titanic hasn't even grown off it's line at the dock.

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Response by gcondo
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 1111
Member since: Feb 2009

lol! try not to type so fast

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