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Long Island City to be sold at 67% loss

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http://www.eastriverauction.com/ ... all mod cons, convenient to Queensbridge Houses
Response by somewhereelse
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> Luxorious marble baths

Wow, Vegas-style!

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Response by MidtownerEast
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I like how they have a map showing points of interest and it includes Cark Schurz Park. Yes, just minutes (try 60) away!

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Response by alanhart
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Or Upper Nile-style? Or just ancient?

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Response by marco_m
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love carl shcurz park

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Response by alanhart
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Is it 'Cark Schurz Park' or 'carl shcurz park'?

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Response by aboutready
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no, it's karl shurze park.

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Response by somewhereelse
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Well, the best thing you can say about is that its not THAT far from Manhattan, no?

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Response by w67thstreet
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"U.S. Home Prices Slump Again, Hitting New Lows"

w67 and it ends with... "In others words, today might be a great time to buy, but tomorrow might be even better. It is a conviction the housing market cannot seem to shake."

And this might be relevant to the priced out manhattan buyers who went looking for a bargain in LIC in 2005-2011....."The tax credit particularly strengthened sales of cheaper houses, and now its absence is speeding their fall. In Atlanta, for instance, prices for lower-priced homes fell 32 percent over the last year, the Case-Shiller data shows."

How many financial lemmings are filling out their 1040s this month? $15K tax credit vs. 32% decline in home prices, I assume your arpt cost more than $300K.... FLMAOZ

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Response by LICComment
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That building is in Astoria.

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Response by huntersburg
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Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

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Response by Wbottom
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no...it's karl schooltz park...named after the guy in hogan's heroes

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Response by Wbottom
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astoria or not, it's advertised as in LIC

can you blame the f'ed developer for trying to steal a little LIC cachet?

I heard River House is doing the same--granted it's a little white lie to say the building's in LIC, but it generates more buyer interest

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Response by alanhart
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Astoria was annexed by Long Island City in 1870.

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Response by MidtownerEast
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Hunter S -- Good to see that you have been "greyed out." Richly deserved.

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Response by huntersburg
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Hmm

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Response by bjw2103
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"I heard River House is doing the same--granted it's a little white lie to say the building's in LIC, but it generates more buyer interest"

W, that totally implies that LIC might somehow be desirable (at least, more desirable than Astoria). That is sacrilege on this board.

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Response by West81st
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We debated the location (LIC vs. Astoria) to a stalemate here:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/24554-auction-of-25-new-condos-in-queens

As Alanhart pointed out, there hasn't been a specific boundary between the two for a very long time.

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Response by bjw2103
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alan, that is a strangely beautiful photo. It does give me the urge to disinfect everything in sight however.

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Response by somewhereelse
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> w67 and it ends with... "In others words, today might be a great time to buy, but tomorrow might be
> even better. It is a conviction the housing market cannot seem to shake."

"a bargain about to be a bigger bargain is no bargain at all".

I've been saying this for a while... once the psychology turns, all the things that propped up the market when things were good become a noose. All the anecdotes work the other way...

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Response by LICComment
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There is no stalemate. That building is in Astoria. It is not in the location that everyone considers when you say LIC, which is south of the Queensboro Bridge and west of Jackson Avenue.

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Response by somewhereelse
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You know, closer to the superfund site.

;-)

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Shoot me.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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i was 14 when i started sneaking out with my greek friend to go party in astoria all night. of all the places that didn't card, the greek cafes were the most respectable and family oriented. we looked older, but i'm sure we still looked like little hookers and those guys would just let us drink and eat and dance and then put us in a cab home at sunrise. we'd brush our teeth and go to school. man, to have kind of stamina again.

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Response by alanhart
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School? What school?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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not saying

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Response by somewhereelse
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Luciellels is Lady Gaga. So, Catholic School on the UWS.

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Response by Wbottom
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you betray your youth lucy--i'm old enough that when i was 14, the drinking age in ny was 18, and there were bars all over the city (manhattan), that catered to underage--much looser times--grew up fast

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"you betray your youth lucy"

i've never pretended to be one of you fogies

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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didn't gaga go to sacred heart?

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Response by somewhereelse
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I don't remember 18 drinking age, but I remember the underage bar on the upper east and upper west sides. it was all of them. ;-)

Seriously, Dorian's was a big one.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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dorian's

right. we wanted to dance and party, not get raped.

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Response by alanhart
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Yes, whatever, Dorian's, Dublin House, Holiday Cocktail Lounge, east side west side downtown, York Prep [cue laugh track], dance [illegal in bars since LaGuardia], the fact remains:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Long_Island_City_map_1896.jpg

... Long Island City to be sold at 67% loss. Both its Astoria section, and the Ravenswood section in which LICcomm's condo is very seriously underwater.

A girl I know was carded at Dublin House when she was 15 -- I think the bartender was flirting with her; NOBODY got carded if she looked older than 11 -- but she showed her Erno Laszlo makeup loyal-customer card (or some such thing) and was promptly served her scotch & soda.

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Response by falcogold1
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To party underaged in Astoria again, back in the late 70's...the Ouzo flowed like water.
If only I could have found a girl with a mustash smaller than mine.

The difference between astoria and LIC...astoria's got the food, LIC's got the ground water toxins. That accounts for the blurred boarder.

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Response by Wbottom
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don dentons, mike malkans among others--dorians is so nouveau

and look lucy, as long as you didnt play volleyball at york prep....

astoria in the 70's?--i missed that--the whole city was a freeforall--cp was one huge drug bazaar--the good old days

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Response by alanhart
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LucilleIsSorry: Aviation? Haaren? City As? Am I getting warmer?

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LucilleIsSorry: Spence? Poly Prep? The Tutoring School? Am I getting warmer?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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alan, not saying

wbottom, no, lucy did not "play volleyball" at "york prep". college, ok, guilty there. but until long after high school, it never dawned on me that any girls actually did that then. but in high school i always thought it was just harmless flirting by young girls just coming into their sexuality, and the male teachers were just good humored and basically non threatening types. at the time i couldn't imagine that a young girl would voluntarily have sex with a gross old man, or that a male teacher could even think of us in a sexual way because well, he's just not allowed to! pretty naive and clueless, huh?

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Response by alanhart
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Oh, you were so totally of the Reagan and post-Reagan generation, because at my HS it was well understood by all that many a young girl would voluntarily have sex with a gross old man, and even a gross old man teacher (good humored ones). Totally.

Rhodes? McBurney? Power Memorial (Bingo -- $1000 in Cash Prizes) Academy? Am I getting warmer?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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yes... i am young...i've never said otherwise. maybe everyone else knew it, but it went totally over my head. i never saw any signs of a relationship, but only because i never looked. and my friends back then were other nice prudish clueless girls, not teacher f*ckers.

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Response by alanhart
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So they seemed. They probably still have the nude photos that they agreed to pose for, because it's so artistic.

But why did you bring it up on this thread? Were you discussing it on another? Which?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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i didn't, you and wbottom did

"and look lucy, as long as you didnt play volleyball at york prep...."

"York Prep [cue laugh track"

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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well, "nice prudish clueless girls" at this point meant we only smoked pot and didn't try coke until junior year. we just weren't the girls who had group sex in people's parent's hot tubs, or who let our boyfriends film us having sex, really, always knowing it would be made public. we just weren't THOSE girls. clueless, sure, but maybe prudish wasn't the right word.

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Response by alanhart
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Perhaps I'm missing something. York Prep = murdering your date with her own underwear.

Where's the student+teacher angle? Was that a parallel scandal? Volleyball coach?

I'm more clueless than nice prudish girls. (And much more prudish.)

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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wbottoms "york" and "volleyball" is a reference to the recent scandal there that the principal was having an affair with a student, a volleyball player. he's been fired. maybe you were just making fun of york, i don't know.

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Response by alanhart
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What do you mean ... York makes fun of itself. It's always been a joke. I truly can't believe that it's still in existence, but I case shortly after the Robert Chambers affair, the demand for (and ability to pay for) Manhattan private schools skyrocketed. Still, you'd think after another scandal they'd at least change their name, which sounds like an aspirational charter school in a former steel-manufacturing town in Pennsylvania. Or something you do before getting the cool, refreshing feeling that you get when you eat a peppermint pattie.

Was Lolita kicked out too? It's always the adult man in a position of authority who's blamed, never the minor girl who seeks approval. Go figure.

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Response by huntersburg
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Robert Chambers? Yesterday you were talking about S&M, and today Robert Chambers.

Deeply disturbing.

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Response by alanhart
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Oh, beautiful, it was the principal, and he's the son-in-law of the school's "founder", 1969, around the time of the Summer of Love. I didn't know they moved to the west side. That must be how they survived the Robert Chambers Affair.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/scandal_at_prep_school_vPBS0MzipXs6t4AUqItELP

New Lincoln? Ramaz? Mabel Dean Bacon? Am I getting warmer?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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she's already graduated, but her senior year she was observed to be suspiciously close to him, spending a lot of time alone with him in his office. she was a volleyball star and when she graduated they had retired her number, so all the school can do to her is take her jersey down from the wall of glory where it was hanging. the principal was fired, even though he had maintained that nothing physical happened until she graduated and turned 18.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"adult man in a position of authority who's blamed, never the minor girl who seeks approval"

well, the girl may try to seduce an authority figure, but the authority figure is older and has more to lose, he was stupid and impulsive to act on that attraction, so he lose

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Response by alanhart
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They should show a picture of her so I can decide for myself. Him, not much to look at. I wonder if his wife/employer and FiL/employer found the whole episode personally amusing.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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they can't run her picture as long as there is a chance she was a minor when the sexual relationship began.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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because then legally, she was a victim of statutory rape

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Response by alanhart
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Well, one thing's certain in all of this.

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birch

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Response by alanhart
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You have to make three guesses at a time (but that's a very good one).

The certain thing, though, is that Long Island City condo values are plummmmmmmeting!

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Response by aboutready
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i think we non-natives can be forgiven for just one, but i'll add town (did it exist back then in its current form?), dwight, and chapin. maybe hewitt for good sport.

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Response by huntersburg
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>The certain thing, though, is that Long Island City condo values are plummmmmmmeting!

That's ok. Financeguy can explain how we will revert to the mean.

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Response by aboutready
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of course they're plummmmmmmettting, ah. they don't have a long history of accessible bad private school education. they don't have much of a history at all.

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Aboutready, use this to help unstick the 'm' key on your keyboard: http://www.staples.com/Falcon-Dust-Off-XL-Disposable-Duster/product_416701?cmArea=SEARCH

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Response by alanhart
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No, read the sign on the awning more carefully. It's dwight "school" ... I actually passed by there one day and saw quotation marks around that word. Krazy Kids with paint! But formally speaking, of course, it's Dumb White Kids Getting High Together. Still too dignified to merge with York Prep, though.

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Response by huntersburg
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alan, I appreciate your use of quotation marks.

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Response by alanhart
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Sorry, semi-literate that I am, I got that wrong. It should be

Dumb White Imbeciles Getting High Together. DWIGHT.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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birch

i'm not saying, because it doesn't matter. it cost a fraction of what it costs today, my mother didn't even have to fight another mother to the death in a cage match, and my father never had to blow the headmaster to get us in. but ouch, ar, see what you're doing there. not falling for it. BITCH he he

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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by the way, where does your daughter go? you mention her ues private school all the time, but i can't seem to find you posting the name. why don't you go ahead and share that.

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Dumb White Imbeciles Getting High Together. DWIGHT.

alan, you say that like it's a bad thing

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Response by aboutready
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wow, lucille, i seemed to have hit a nerve. sorry. certainly wasn't intending to draw a connection to BITCH.

as to where my daughter goes, she STILL goes there. which is why i won't share. when she graduates, which is coming up faster than i can really grasp, i'll happily name the school. lighten up, francis.

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Response by stevejhx
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And the Post Office says: LONG ISLAND CITY.

Not far from Long Island City High.

Funny, according to LICCdope, the Queensbridge Houses aren't in Long Island City, either. They're actually in Minnesota.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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good morning!
many posters here, who don't talk about it nearly as much as you, have named their children's current schools. it's not a big deal, since they clearly consider their conduct on this board beyond reproach. zing!

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Response by Wbottom
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go deeper on the soninlaw headmaster--a real piece of shlt--he got called on several ludicrous resume fantasies--one that he was on the canadian national cycling team or something!!--then lied about a columbia degree--they didnt can him then, and it seems this crap came out prior to his turning the york girl--incredible

take my child and my 40k/year!!

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Response by Wbottom
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Lucy, you wont even name your schools, let alone your children's--not that i blame you--i sure aint namin mine

LIC is an awful place to be stuck living, waiting for a crap condo to get back above water--could be endless--what a waste of life

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Response by aboutready
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lucille, who exactly (much less "many") is giving out the name of their kid's schools?

my, someone's a bit snarky. zing.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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ar, sigh, no comment

you've lost your mind. my sincere best wishes.

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Response by aboutready
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lucille, i lost it long ago. my apologies for engaging in a bit of sport with AH (who's comments you took with much greater humor for some reason). best wishes to you as well.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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oh come now, i'll bet my ancestral bong there was more depth to your school suggestions, seeing that you are a part of that scene and are familiar with the stereotypes. don't play dumb and humble, lady, it doesn't suit you!

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Response by aboutready
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lucille, i'm not dumb nor humble. nor, might i add, are you. so think. yes, we were playing with you. so was AH, and wbottom. it was irony, a joke.

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Response by aboutready
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i actually would never make such comments to someone where i thought they might be appropriate, that would be mean.

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Response by alanhart
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"and my father never had to blow the headmaster to get us in."

... I'm confused. Do you mean it was entirely his desire so to do; or do you mean that your school had a headmistress, and so your father met whatever obligations that entailed? [oh, snap!]

Anyway, congratulations all around for not dispensing bad and obvious puns involving headmasters and/or headmistresses.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"Do you mean it was entirely his desire so to do"

papa bear doesn't lean that way, and i generally don't like to think about who he's headmistressed over the years. my point was that even good honest salt of the earth rich folk have a hard time raising their superior spawn in the new and improved new york. which is why the bluths put their shrinking money where their big mouths are and moved to the promised land. yes, that would be new jersey, bro.

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Response by stevejhx
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New Jersey is the "Promised Land"?

Who was it promised to? The Mob?

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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Who was it promised to?

george washington and the continetal army!

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Response by alanhart
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Relax, stevejhx ... it's a reference to the butter substitute they use on the mainland.

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Response by stevejhx
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I was born on an island, and on an island I remain.

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Response by alanhart
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And I. And when it's all over, Hart Island.

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Response by alanhart
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Well if you say the condos that are being sold at a 67% loss are not in Long Island City, I suppose they might be in Ravenswood.

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Response by buyer11
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Hunters point is the only part of Lic worth mentioning

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Response by huntersburg
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That's near me.

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Response by alanhart
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Okay, Hunters Point, near Creedmoor.

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Response by huntersburg
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Ah, Creedmoor. I'm talking just a bit more south, on the border of the two boros of Gotham: Huntersburg.

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Response by alanhart
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If you "win" this Long Island City firesale auction, you can easily go to Costco every day to observe its fascinating shoppers.

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Response by MidtownerEast
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Does Huntersburg have a Mediterranean climate?

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Response by stevejhx
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What's the Murder Discount?

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Response by alanhart
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Steve, you're killing me.

MIdtownerEast, Huntersburg has a Subterranean climate.

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Response by MidtownerEast
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Hah! I love it when a thread comes together.

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Response by alanhart
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Wrong, alanhart!

Huntersburg has a Subaquatic climate.

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