http://www.longislandindex.org/fileadmin/Reports_and_Maps/2011_Index/Getting_it_Done_2011_LI_Index_Special_Analysis.pdf
Since its inception, the Long Island Index has documented
how these new realities have played out in Nassau and
Suffolk Counties. A few highlights from the 2011 Index
show how these trends have progressed in last decade:
• Over the last decade, private sector jobs have declined
by 27,000 as job losses between 2007 and 2010 negated
all of the gains from earlier in the decade.
• Average pay per employee is at a 10-year low, down
3% from 2000. Over the same period, average wages
in the United States have grown by 4%.
• In 2009, there were 15% fewer 25-to-34-year-olds than
there were in 2000, a larger decline than in any other
part of the New York metropolitan region and in
contrast to a 5% gain for the nation.
• Households paying more than 35% of their income for
housing rose from 27% of all households in 2000 to 38%
in 2009.
• From 2000 to 2009, Long Island issued new permits for
only 15 housing units per year for each 1,000 residents,
compared to 25 for other suburban areas of the New
York region.
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Response by Riversider
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009
In spite of these trends, most residents still find Long Island
a desirable place to live and raise a family. However, they
are increasingly worried about how they can maintain this
lifestyle. This contrast can be seen by comparing two findings
from the Index’s 2010 public opinion survey conducted by
the Stony Brook Center for Survey Research. While 78%
of residents rate Long Island as a good or excellent place
to live, only 36% think things in Nassau and Suffolk are
headed in the right direction, compared to 44% who think
it is headed in the wrong direction. While part of this is
undoubtedly a reaction to the national recession, this
contrast between liking what we have and concern for the
future is consistent with concern over housing prices, taxes
and people leaving that have been expressed in this and
previous polls as well.
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Response by Riversider
about 15 years ago
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81% consider high property taxes to be an
extremely or very serious problem, and three-quarters fear that
young people will need to move from Long Island because
of the high cost of living.
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Response by falcogold1
about 15 years ago
Posts: 4159
Member since: Sep 2008
If they just gathered together and killed the Jones everything would be alright.
They are the cause of the constant runaway cost of living on Long Island.
Damn your Viking stove!
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Response by Riversider
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009
Can anyone tell me what's the job creator on Long Island. It's been over a decade since we lost Grumman and what do we have in it's place high taxes and no serious attempt at creating private jobs.
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Response by Socialist
about 15 years ago
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And thanks to recent Teabagger/ Republican mismanagement, painful tax increases are on the way for Long Island.
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Response by Riversider
about 15 years ago
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True---too much giving into union demands. Not enough tough-love.
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Response by alanhart
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007
Grumman and other defense contractor jobs are only nominally private-sector. They derive almost all of their income from government contracts (some more than others; obviously Boeing, Raytheon et al. have substantial non-government work too).
So part of the story of the decline of Long Island is the loss of Federal-government inflows, paying handsome union-supported salaries. Same goes for California over the past few decades. It's not really clear to me which states have gotten that very lucrative defense contracting business instead. Virginia, perhaps?
Most of the story of the rise of Texas, by the wya, is the gain of Federal-goverment inflows, mostly War Department but also healthcare $. That allows Texas to keep its taxes low, which allows it to lure business from other states.
This is the story of states and municipalities fighting each other in the race to the bottom, rather than the US as a whole competing with the rest of the world in the fight to the top.
It's not clear to
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Response by huntersburg
about 15 years ago
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>Grumman and other defense contractor jobs are only nominally private-sector. They derive almost all of their income from government contracts (some more than others; obviously Boeing, Raytheon et al. have substantial non-government work too).
Wait just a minute. The difference you try to create between Grumman and Boeing is false. The non-defense side of boeing is to make commercial aircraft. Those aircraft fly people. People who are part of some country, e.g. the U.S., who are represented by and vote for their GOVERNMENT. We shouldn't let Boeing be off the hook in this analysis of who is to blame.
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Response by Riversider
about 15 years ago
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Grumman's defense contracts were to the Federal government. Long Island lost out to other states in the smaller post cold war defense budget spending. Connecticut and California seemed to gain at our expense.
In spite of these trends, most residents still find Long Island
a desirable place to live and raise a family. However, they
are increasingly worried about how they can maintain this
lifestyle. This contrast can be seen by comparing two findings
from the Index’s 2010 public opinion survey conducted by
the Stony Brook Center for Survey Research. While 78%
of residents rate Long Island as a good or excellent place
to live, only 36% think things in Nassau and Suffolk are
headed in the right direction, compared to 44% who think
it is headed in the wrong direction. While part of this is
undoubtedly a reaction to the national recession, this
contrast between liking what we have and concern for the
future is consistent with concern over housing prices, taxes
and people leaving that have been expressed in this and
previous polls as well.
81% consider high property taxes to be an
extremely or very serious problem, and three-quarters fear that
young people will need to move from Long Island because
of the high cost of living.
If they just gathered together and killed the Jones everything would be alright.
They are the cause of the constant runaway cost of living on Long Island.
Damn your Viking stove!
Can anyone tell me what's the job creator on Long Island. It's been over a decade since we lost Grumman and what do we have in it's place high taxes and no serious attempt at creating private jobs.
And thanks to recent Teabagger/ Republican mismanagement, painful tax increases are on the way for Long Island.
True---too much giving into union demands. Not enough tough-love.
Grumman and other defense contractor jobs are only nominally private-sector. They derive almost all of their income from government contracts (some more than others; obviously Boeing, Raytheon et al. have substantial non-government work too).
So part of the story of the decline of Long Island is the loss of Federal-government inflows, paying handsome union-supported salaries. Same goes for California over the past few decades. It's not really clear to me which states have gotten that very lucrative defense contracting business instead. Virginia, perhaps?
Most of the story of the rise of Texas, by the wya, is the gain of Federal-goverment inflows, mostly War Department but also healthcare $. That allows Texas to keep its taxes low, which allows it to lure business from other states.
This is the story of states and municipalities fighting each other in the race to the bottom, rather than the US as a whole competing with the rest of the world in the fight to the top.
It's not clear to
>Grumman and other defense contractor jobs are only nominally private-sector. They derive almost all of their income from government contracts (some more than others; obviously Boeing, Raytheon et al. have substantial non-government work too).
Wait just a minute. The difference you try to create between Grumman and Boeing is false. The non-defense side of boeing is to make commercial aircraft. Those aircraft fly people. People who are part of some country, e.g. the U.S., who are represented by and vote for their GOVERNMENT. We shouldn't let Boeing be off the hook in this analysis of who is to blame.
Grumman's defense contracts were to the Federal government. Long Island lost out to other states in the smaller post cold war defense budget spending. Connecticut and California seemed to gain at our expense.
Who should we blame?
Those Nazi bastards!