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Bloated properties sink to the bottom

Started by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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Starting to notice properties with heavy carrying charges are beginning to sink... I offer you an example: 301 east 64th street http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/554864-coop-301-east-64th-street-lenox-hill-new-york Find any others?
Response by huntersburg
over 15 years ago
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What was 07 sale? How high ceilings?

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Response by gaongaon
over 15 years ago
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Is this a land lease building? Is there anyplace to look up a full list of land lease buildings? There seem to be quite a number on the UES, and it appears that not all of the listing brokers include this information in their descriptions. I have a strong preference for UWS, but some of these prices on UES do seem attractive. Yet upon further research it's often turned out to be land lease.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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3% off. R they serious? It's says they are serious sellers that know the mkt is tanking... Ye their pricing strategy is 1% chops ad nauseum. If I graph their chops it'll be 2025 bf it sells.

How about you pay me $500k to pay $4k/month...?

High five Falco!!!!'

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Response by SkinnyNsweet
over 15 years ago
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One dollar, Bob.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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I knew you would find this funny!

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Response by lucillebluth
over 15 years ago
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"I knew you would find this funny!"

but how could you be sure? you didn't even mention concentration camps. you didn't really know. you hoped.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 15 years ago
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how do you decide which one of your dopey identities to use?

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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lucille,
Your on quite a tare.

Tell me, what's really the issue?

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Response by columbiacounty
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LucilleIsAdamant

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Response by aboutready
over 15 years ago
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no, LucilleIsIgnorant

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Response by 300_mercer
over 15 years ago
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It looks a perfect case of unions taking away the property from the owner. First union employees in the building. Second, every increasing real estate taxes to pay for pension costs. Unless of course, the building had a major structural problem or was a land-lease.

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Response by MidtownerEast
over 15 years ago
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LucilleIsaBloatedPropertySinkingtotheBottom.

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Response by ekartash
over 15 years ago
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does anyone know why the maintenance charges are so high here? wtf? how are they justified?

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Response by huntersburg
over 15 years ago
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Hey, VirginerBoy switched back to his "old" name.

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Response by huntersburg
over 15 years ago
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>lucille,
Your on quite a tare.

alanhart, please help me out, this post by falcogold, is it a "funny" or just a spelling error?

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Response by MidtownerEast
over 15 years ago
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Troll check.

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Response by huntersburg
over 15 years ago
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Hey MidtownerVirgin, will your landlord be upping your $3200 smallish 1 bedroom in midtown east, or did you lock in a 2 year lease?

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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Renters high five!!!!!!!! Midtownereast high five! Hope ya didn't lock in for 2 yrs, it gets cheaper each year!

What up cuntersburg!

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Response by MidtownerEast
over 15 years ago
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Yep, it worked. Hunter S. Trollburg appeared, like magic. Now back to ignore.

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Response by huntersburg
over 15 years ago
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Hey VirginEast, this new Roro guy, any relation?

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Response by huntersburg
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>Renters high five!!!!!!!! Midtownereast high five! Hope ya didn't lock in for 2 yrs, it gets cheaper each year!
>What up cuntersburg!

w67thstreet, in your building, when you are with your wife, can you take the regular elevator and not the service elevator like when you are alone?

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Response by NWT
over 15 years ago
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301E64 isn't a land-lease, but it does carry a hefty underlying mortgage of nearly $7,000,000. More than $3,000,000 of that was added in 2003, so there must've been some major capital project.

The sales prices plus their share of mortgage should theoretically be the same as a low-debt equivalent building's, but it doesn't usually work out that way.

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Response by Wbottom
over 15 years ago
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apts with high monthlies tend to sit, and require discounting that more than offsets the math based on the monthlies

it's like falco said, more of these will hit soon as the tax situation plays out, and as tax abatements start to retchet up the as$e$ of owners--flexion a comin

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