Lets be honest getting a newer flat screen that is 1/3 inch thinner or a new car that has 2 horse power more or an i-phone 6 over an i-phone 5 is dumb and wasteful. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/business/26upgrade.html?pagewanted=1&ref=business For a number of products — cars, phones, computers, even shampoo and toothpaste — the data shows a slowing of product life cycles and consumption.... [more]
Lets be honest getting a newer flat screen that is 1/3 inch thinner
or a new car that has 2 horse power more
or an i-phone 6 over an i-phone 5 is dumb and wasteful.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/business/26upgrade.html?pagewanted=1&ref=business
For a number of products — cars, phones, computers, even shampoo and toothpaste — the data shows a slowing of product life cycles and consumption. In many cases the difference is mere months, but economists and consumers say the approach just may outlast a full recovery and the return of easy credit, because of the strong impression the downturn made on consumers.
It is hardly the stuff of generations past, those stung by the Great Depression, who held onto antediluvian dishware and stored canned goods until rust formed on the lids. But for the moment, many citizens of a throwaway society are making fewer visits to the trash and recycling bins.
In the case of Patti Hauseman of Brooklyn, that meant sticking with a five-year-old Apple computer until it started making odd whirring noises and occasionally malfunctioning. She and her boyfriend bought a new computer for Christmas — actually, a refurbished one.
“A week later, the old one died. We timed it pretty well,” Ms. Hauseman said with a laugh. Her cautious approach applies to other products: she is holding out on upgrading two seven-year-old tube-type TVs, and has taken to mending clothes rather than replacing them.
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have you seen the thread about how much people are spending on window shades?
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Riversider: The Sony T.V. I bought in 1996 is still working well. I'm not going to replace it until it goes, want to see how long it lasts.
The Sony flatscreen I bought 2 years ago is on the fritz. I see a lot of flatscreens out on the curb waiting for garbage pick-up.
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rent stabilizer--how do you feel about her having two tv sets in the first place? too extravagant for you?
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Truth, I have a plasma bought in 2002. It gets high def. Madison Avenue has yet to create a reason to replace it. Same for the bedroom set bought a few years later. The argument that the new one is one inch thinner hardly seems sufficient.
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I'd rather jump out of a window than go back to watching a tube tv. Once you upgrade to a flat screen HD TV, you can NEVER go back to a tube.
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Response by Riversider
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Now that is a message any socialist can agree with.
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"The Sony T.V. I bought in 1996 is still working well. I'm not going to replace it until it goes, want to see how long it lasts."
The Sanyo 25" "portable" that I bought in 1995 is also still working well. 25 inches was plenty large for even the most affluent households for nearly 30 years, and it's fine for mine, too.
And frankly, I don't see THAT much of a picture difference on my television than in any of the flat screens.
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"And frankly, I don't see THAT much of a picture difference on my television than in any of the flat screens."
Excuse me? Put your tube TV side by side with a 1080 HD TV and you will most certainly see a difference.
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Not enough to jump out of a window
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I was in Best Buy a few days ago and some of the LED TVs made me want to drool. The picture is amazing. They make my LCD screen look like sh*t.
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Response by Riversider
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There's no reason to replace a TV more than once ever 10-15 years.
How many true advances have we had these last few decades
Black & White
Color
HD/Flat screen.
Time Warner & Verizon are still adding H.D. channels(and not 1080P). 1080P is a waste of money as no cable providers broadcast in that mode. Unless you are playing a video game or looking at blue-ray disks on a set larger than 42 inches 1080P is money down the toilet.
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You forgot to include 3D. In 3-5 years from now, it will become the norm to have 3D programming.
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and 3D gaming.
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You're certainly a very unique socialist.
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"Unless you are playing a video game or looking at blue-ray disks on a set larger than 42 inches 1080P is money down the toilet."
But you know a lot of people actually do those things, right?
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I play GTA IV every week so I'm one of those people.
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There are many in that category. Most are under 30.
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Response by Sunday
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...but 40 is the new 30 right?
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NO in this case 30 is the new 20.
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"Where Have The Good Men Gone?
Kay S. Hymowitz argues that too many men in their 20s are living in a new kind of extended adolescence.
Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This "pre-adulthood" has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men."
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have you seen the thread about how much people are spending on window shades?
Riversider: The Sony T.V. I bought in 1996 is still working well. I'm not going to replace it until it goes, want to see how long it lasts.
The Sony flatscreen I bought 2 years ago is on the fritz. I see a lot of flatscreens out on the curb waiting for garbage pick-up.
rent stabilizer--how do you feel about her having two tv sets in the first place? too extravagant for you?
Truth, I have a plasma bought in 2002. It gets high def. Madison Avenue has yet to create a reason to replace it. Same for the bedroom set bought a few years later. The argument that the new one is one inch thinner hardly seems sufficient.
I'd rather jump out of a window than go back to watching a tube tv. Once you upgrade to a flat screen HD TV, you can NEVER go back to a tube.
Now that is a message any socialist can agree with.
"The Sony T.V. I bought in 1996 is still working well. I'm not going to replace it until it goes, want to see how long it lasts."
The Sanyo 25" "portable" that I bought in 1995 is also still working well. 25 inches was plenty large for even the most affluent households for nearly 30 years, and it's fine for mine, too.
And frankly, I don't see THAT much of a picture difference on my television than in any of the flat screens.
"And frankly, I don't see THAT much of a picture difference on my television than in any of the flat screens."
Excuse me? Put your tube TV side by side with a 1080 HD TV and you will most certainly see a difference.
Not enough to jump out of a window
I was in Best Buy a few days ago and some of the LED TVs made me want to drool. The picture is amazing. They make my LCD screen look like sh*t.
There's no reason to replace a TV more than once ever 10-15 years.
How many true advances have we had these last few decades
Black & White
Color
HD/Flat screen.
Time Warner & Verizon are still adding H.D. channels(and not 1080P). 1080P is a waste of money as no cable providers broadcast in that mode. Unless you are playing a video game or looking at blue-ray disks on a set larger than 42 inches 1080P is money down the toilet.
You forgot to include 3D. In 3-5 years from now, it will become the norm to have 3D programming.
and 3D gaming.
You're certainly a very unique socialist.
"Unless you are playing a video game or looking at blue-ray disks on a set larger than 42 inches 1080P is money down the toilet."
But you know a lot of people actually do those things, right?
I play GTA IV every week so I'm one of those people.
There are many in that category. Most are under 30.
...but 40 is the new 30 right?
NO in this case 30 is the new 20.
"Where Have The Good Men Gone?
Kay S. Hymowitz argues that too many men in their 20s are living in a new kind of extended adolescence.
Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This "pre-adulthood" has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it's time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn't bring out the best in men."
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFMQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html&ei=_5hpTcG2HoT6lwfMqcyAAg&usg=AFQjCNEDKBRI618ZVksz_OjLYD9sp2VtXg
Times have changed. Today all too many get hand-outs from their parents until well into their 30's.
It is their parents' fault.
Sunday ever read "millionaire next door"?
http://www.slate.com/id/2286240/?from=rss
So long as young men can slack and still get sex from attractive women the slacking will go on.
Riversider, interesting... I just read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html
It should probably be a high school textbook.
The link works without having to sign on if you google the URL and then click on the result.
I typically play GTA and Gran Turismo during my union mandated 2 hour lunch break.
Good stuff, Sunday.
I was actually thinking about "enabling"
NYCMatt: They don't make 'em like they used to.
They sure don't, Truth, they sure don't.