Selling New York -- Really?

i think that there were actually 2 apartments that were sold on that show. one of the first shows had a broker buy one. in another show, the strange duplex.

otherwise, the show reinforces the reality that not much is selling. it's always great to see the $5+M apartment with grandma furniture and renovation from the 80s. "Totally renovated" my a**.

I find the agents on "million dollar listing" even more objectionable

i had the same thought for season 1.. however, in the first couple of episodes of season 2 (or is it season 3 now??) they seemed to be selling a good number of units..

if i remember two of them being in the lucida.. where a purchaser bought two 3 bedroom units right next to each other (10mm and about 7mm?? each) to make one big gigantic orgy space overlooking ny's skyline.. was wondering who that buyer was.. in the credits when they say "closed" wonder if it's really post closing or contract signing point.

kylewest, me too. They're mostly trying to sell new condos, so it's a nice change when it's something real like the one at Chesapeake House or the Apthorp. (Still unsold and with a new broker, so the feng-shui hooey didn't help.)

The clients are more annoying than the brokers. My parents in Arizona have been watching it, so now pooh-pooh my place, and think NYC is the home of ugly. "Nobody's fat, but there hasn't been a good-looking one yet."

They could be more subtle with the Audi product placement, and that Osher guy needs to let his Botox wear off.

im still waiting for the NYC version of "millionaire listing"...

...did BRAVO ok it or what?

I like Josh Flagg, as he's odd, low-key and honest about himself. Chin implants, etc. They're generally pretty dull as Bravo goes. Sort of the step-children, never on Andy's show.

i like josh's granny.. she's gully.

i didnt know he was gay.. his boyfriend is weird..

now we just have to wait for that new dude who gets off on wearing suits to come out so we can have a somewhat entertaining show.

The new guy is named Josh as well. Come to think of it, where is the guy he replaced? The one with the Justin Bieber hair? Why is he no longer on, anyone know?

My parents in Arizona have been watching it, so now pooh-pooh my place, and think NYC is the home of ugly. "Nobody's fat, but there hasn't been a good-looking one yet."

actually, having drank the cool aid and always thinking that new york is home of the beautiful because...well, just because, i was shocked, SHOCKED, to learn that no one outside new york actually thinks that. skinny well groomed people in expensive clothes and surroundings, the natural beauties are few and far between. i was like, whaaaa? but it's true.

I'm sad to say that I actually googled what happend to Chad. Apparently he was kicked off the show b/c Bravo thought he was too stiff. which of course he was - that's what made him entertaining.

yes, hol4 - josh's granny is the star of the show imo. if only i had a granny who hooked me up with million dollar business deals, all while wearing fur coats while sipping tea at midnight!

I think the show should be renamed "Plastic Surgery Disasters" or perhaps, "New York City Stereotypes on Parade".

On Million Dollar Listing, we were crazy for Chad Rogers, or--as my boyfriend called him--"Chad-bot." Every hour of that show reconfirms how much I hate L.A. and how it makes just about anywhere on earth seem authentic in comparison. Now, I'm a gentle guy, a loving person; but that Madison Hildebrand on the show makes me want to smack him everytime he opens his mouth. No. Everytime I even see him. I mean really smack him--hard. Josh Altman at least has a nice view from his office. The other gay Josh--his grandma's okay so I'll let him slide...for now.

as a self proclaimed c*m guzzler myself i loooatthhheee Madison..

can't believe he's what, 35 years old?, and still thinks he's bi.. wtf?

what did he expect us to believe he was gonna do to that girl he "dated"? bottom for her?

same goes for Andy Cohen, he's getting annoying over-playing the gay card excessively to get more $$$$$..

smart move though, but still.. gets nauseatingly transparent

Madison and the new Josh are just teeth and hair, while Josh Flagg can be funny and disarming. Not Bethenny born-for-TV funny, but mid-range among the Bravo people.

Andy I like, except for the mean streak. Trotting that poor Elsa woman out and letting her daughter show up in that road job last night, and running popularity polls on people sitting there with him.

Ugh--that Josh Altman in the suit. I can't just hear him in bed: "Come on, baby. Say my name. Say my name. Let's both say it. We can say it together..."

dont you mean, "greeeeat, greeeaatt, Peter, how's it going...Im going to go ahead and ask you to come in on Saturday and finish those TPS reports..greaaaat".....LUMBERG!

stick to data mining noah

pc load leter?

Who says men don't gossip?

This thread is turning into a bad chick flick. . .

Oh, fine, I'll play too . . .

The Kleir women look like an assortment of troll dolls, remember those from the '70's?

I hate that selling NY is so obviously an ad for friends and cronies of the brokers. Then they throw in random baloney to try and jazz it up like the Feng Shui grandma.

But I do love that they make me feel superior by showing only apts in excess of $1000 per sq ft. In crappy locations, too, like the Bowery.

Madison is the worst. Oh, and why did Osher have to call around to a bunch of other agencies to find a rental in the Hamptons?! I thought that would have been a perk of being a CEO in the R.E. business. You'd either have listings, or at least have one of your own agents sort you out.

@Kylewest

You funny!

>The babble fascinates, infuriates, and baffles me, too. Prattle and drivle but utterly no self-awareness of how idiotic most of the offered pearls of wisdom sound.

Kind of real estate porn.

I'm embarassed to say that I enjoy it. Such a weird world of the overpaid.

Hey digger, you don't happen to sleep with a candy apple red Swingline do you?

My wife and I do find these two shows entertaining. Hey, is better than the other sh*t on tv like Jersey Shore or Dancing with the "Stars".

But my question is why is the commission rate in Cali so much lower than in NYC? I think is 1.5 - 2% in Cali vs. 5 - 6% in NYC. What is up with that?

"all while wearing fur coats while sipping tea at midnight"

It was coffee, dammit! Pay attention.

"But my question is why is the commission rate in Cali so much lower than in NYC? I think is 1.5 - 2% in Cali vs. 5 - 6% in NYC. What is up with that?"

The fantasy is larger in Selling NY. First, they forgot to divide by two between the sets of brokers. Second, they fail to acknowledge that when you're selling a $8M place, it's probably a 4% comisssion that's getting split 2 ways.

I get the way Mom K dresses, great jewelry/handbags but the daughters?

It seems the % in CA is 5% in some deals. That is 2.5% for each broker who then splits that with their firms leaving 1.25% per broker. That's the math I did on some of last week's deals

tonight's episode they sold 1st property and second one had 'offer'..

lizard woman even got to sell all her furniture..

they seem to be selling more in season 2 than 1

who purchased the 2 lucida units next to each other?

I have to admit i love it!!! How obnoxious was the show when they went to LA (but i watched it twice)?? It's like a car wreck, you know you should not watch it but you can't stop yourself!!!! And yes, it seems as if they are at about 50-60% with sales. Last year seemed like zero.
I love how they portrait the brokers.. so sweet, kind helpful, looking out for their client.. LMAO!!!
But LOVE the show!

My scholarship here must be off. I usually check streeteasy for each listing and seems as if everyone ends up still on the market with even supposed deals apparently falling through in the end with a couple of exceptions. FWIW, that unit at the Stanhope for 25,000,000,000,000 or whatever is still for sale from last season last I checked. And you can still get into the Phillip Johnson "Glass House" overlooking the Sanitation Dept Depot if you want to.

why do the kliers hold their pocket books the way they do, over the elbow with forearm up..hi find that so annoying...

i think you have my stapler

The handbag hold is retro. It was started by my Aunt Tillie in the Bronx in 1951 but really caught fire in the early 1970's as crime soared in NYC. It helps insure that if a mugger grabs your purse, it will also result in your shoulder being dislocated or your arm broken.

so thats the reason!

funny thing is I might be in one of the episodes, accidentally. I got out of the E86th 6 line last week and was walking in front of the Lucida when I heard a loud "ACTION" call from across the street. Right as they said that I looked to the left of me and there was Kleier shooting a scene..I hope that shot makes it, my urbandigs cameo on selling new york!

From the start of episode one last year I still feel that the Kleirs show that familiar strain from the angst of keeping up the illusion of civility; not to mention lovliness personified. If this is genuine, then great. I just get visions Leona Helmsly, dancing through my head.

My take on the Klier's handbag hold is that they are, for the most part, Hermes Birkin bags that start at around 9,000. and climb up to 30,000. depending on exotic skins. The Klier's most likely carry them as a badge of success and status. I don't really think they spend too much time in high risk neighborhoods.

Urbandigs-ouch...pull back your claws on the Kleirs. Yes, you may be right on, but I'm sure that one hurt!

I liked the episode where the Klier matriarch sits in a klatsch discussing looking for a new rental for a female friend of her daughter. The elder Klier explains that when "you look like her" in NYC you need a doorman building. WTF did that mean? Ugly girls are better suited for walk-ups?

Women's shoes and handbags are kinda funny things. No straight man in the world looks at these things unless he's paying a woman to walk on him with heels on. Straight guys don't give a crap about handbags and women's shoes--Jimmy's register the same as shoe-mart for dudes. So we can dispense with the notion these trappings have anything to do with sex appeal. Purses and shoes are how women say "f-you" to each other. And nothing says "you suck and I rock" more than a $15,000 purse.

Women's shoes and handbags are kinda funny things. No straight man in the world looks at these things unless he's paying a woman to walk on him with heels on. Straight guys don't give a crap about handbags and women's shoes--Jimmy's register the same as shoe-mart for dudes. So we can dispense with the notion these trappings have anything to do with sex appeal. Purses and shoes are how women say "f-you" to each other. And nothing says "you suck and I rock" more than a $15,000 purse.

That was so cool I just had to post twice.

That was so cool I just had to post twice.

With all the money these Klier women have for shoes/bags, it is shocking that they would not visit a good plastic surgeon or at least get some decent botox. The mother looks ancient, like 40 yrs older than her husband. The daughters have more wrinkles than my 60 yr old mother (I assume they are suppose to be in their 40's) and you can tell that they have the same bad skin genes as their mother. Sell those bags and get some botox!! They will probably get more clients by not looking creepy/troll-like than by flashing birkin bags. Not trying to be mean, just honest.

Wow, I'd heard Birkin mentioned before but didn't know how much. The wiki page is interesting.

Maybe one of those helped W67th rack up his $40K Christmas.

kylewest:the handbag hold is for providing maximum view of diamond rings, bracelets and things.

Birkin bags are ugly.

How about the friend roberta?? how could you not love that??!!

greenlc, what's wrong with not being a beauty? Did the show promise you beautiful people?
By extension, what will happen to you if your botox dries up, you poor thing?
Your comment is crass and stupid.
kylewest is absolutely correct about the bag/shoe thing. But how about them ties...

FYI: the Kleier's lost their son/brother in 2009, so, not surprised if grief has etched their faces.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?n=jonathan-kleier&pid=132482490

Worst thing about the Inet: Nameless/faceless people posting nasty, hurtful statements.

I read a recent article about how the real estate market is doing so well in NYC that some projects are now upping their prices by 3%-4%. One of the projects mentioned was 80 Met which happens to have almost nothing left and there fore is easy financing and move in ready. Not the best example.

It's just the developer re-gauging what they initially thought an apartment would go for. E.g., five of the Laureate's askings went up from 2-5% a few weeks ago.

I watched Million Dollar last night.
I'm all for "clearing" a house but they didn't even burn any sage.Will the spirit of Max return?
Madison has nice blue eyes.

oh, i miss Chadi-cakes. He was the only reason to watch. I haven't seen this season.

uwsmom: It was the first time I watched, last night.

Well, Million Dollar Listing finale was last night. This season was the worst of them. Chad was so insane he made the whole show. Nothing makes for good reality television like a severe narscissistic personality disorder (see, e.g., Kelly Bensimone of Real Housewives of NY).

As much as I looked forward to the Chadster every week so I could learn how to karate-chop pillows, the good part about this season is that we got to see some decent brokering and some sales. Everyone moved some properties. Unlike Selling NY, we weren't subjected to an entire episode about Josh Altman's accommodations in Los Cabos or Madison flying out to NY to help a client not buy an apartment.

Seems I missed out on a good last season of Million Dollar.

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I assume Selling New York is done and gone??? The absolute worst, even worse than the Klier trolls, was the episode where ultra-fagoo Tom Postillio and his elephant eared lover, Mickey Conlon, were attempting to sell Joan Collins' apartment. She looked absolutely embalmed, where the boys were so botoxed that nothing moved in their faces, even when trying to show amazement and enthusiasm for their assignment: selling an ugly, white-brick building apartment with no good bones at all. Another reason I'm glad I stayed away.