One Brooklyn Bridge Park

Not to interrupt everyone's pissing match, but is there anyone out there with a REAL opinion here? one that isn't biased against the place because someone does or doesn't live in it?

anyway, i've been to this building several times and i like it very much. for me the harborside apartments are way to expensive, and the bqe side are too noisy unless you're high up in which case its too expensive (for me). The north courtyard apartments (sans balconies), i find, are nice though. floors 7 and above get nice light, very quite away from the bqe, and if you just look to the right you have a nice harbor and bridge view which will also be of the park. The park is going to get done, look at the progress they've made they're not just going to stop.

Also with all the amenities this building offers, i think it adds to the value. the CC's aren't bad for whats offered, compared to other co-ops and condos in the area. Look at that new Columbia Commons for example, the prices are much higher, the spaces are much smaller, amenities are much less, and transportation and location to the bqe are just as bad.

I'm just looking for negatives to this place. For me, a single guy, i think a 1br in this place would be great. i don't plan on a sizeable family in the next 5 or so years. I currently live in boerum hill off smith st and its great. granted the scene at obbp isn't as good but its not far away. so what, good place for me or not? thanks.

meh, I invite you to join the discussion on the OBBP Google page http://groups.google.com/group/obbp?hl=en The genuine discussion here always gets ruined by the likes of somewhereelse and ab_. But overall I think your assessment is spot on. I'm on the eighth floor with a Brooklyn view and the BQE "noise" is not a concern, but on lower floors I definitely can understand the issue (though there is always the CitiQuiet/City Windows solution).

I walked past Columbia Commons the other day and looked at some interior photos and, to me, OBBP makes a lot more sense. None of the amenities, not nearly the same space, and higher price per sq. ft., lower end finishes compared to OBBP. What am I missing?

And thanks for bringing this back to an actual discussion about the building!

realestated, have your seen the interior of the building? I appreciate your opinion and do agree its not much to look at from the outside (though not ugly by any stretch), but the way I look at it is that I live in the building not outside of it. So on my list of priorities exterior appearance is kind of low. Also, never understood the window height issue, particularly since many units have floor to ceiling windows.

aboutready, fair enough indeed!!! somewhereelse is limbaugh, whereas ab_ is beck.

Truth, yes I now host a web page regarding OBBP because the discussion here has become so one sided and tabloidish. But just because I host that page doesn't and shouldn't mean that I won't come back here to add some perspective when OBBP is being summarily crucified by the likes of somewhereelse and ab_. We know who's side you're on so you can call it a snit (wrongly so, but so be it), but what would you call ab_ and somewhereelse's posts? Well reasonaed, objective and fact-based? I think not.

Truth, what I like about you...and yes I like you, I really like you...is that you're upfront about your position and why you have it. You have an agenda, but you've disclosed it. Kudos to you. You have your opinion, and while I disagree with it, I'm down with it. And that's the way it should be.

ab_, that last post truly shows your colors. Rather than applaud and celebrate a fantastic new park, which is great for Brooklyn and the City, you focus on and feed the melodrama over an admitted mistake. There were bound to be mistakes on a project of this size and scope and you're there to harp on them. Just like you're criticism of most RE properties.

Thanks much for your comments villager. The commentary on this and other OBBP threads has become ridiculously polarized and there seems to be no room for genuine discussion. Your comments in particular resonate with me as someone who looked at and apprciated OBBP's qualities, yet made another choice.

> And I have responded to your "refutation" of my point of factoring in the economy several times.

First, that's your opinion not a fact.
No, you didn't.

> Second, all you did to "refute" it was to call the ecomomic
> climate an excuse. Not much of an argument, which is why I didn't respond to it.

No, I pointed out that it was a HUGE logic flaw. Giving a reason it bombed does not make it anything other than a bomb.

That is the fundamental flaw in your argument.

You didn't try and refute it because you couldn't. Your argument is bunk.

> The RE world changed fundamentally after Sept '08, but you just dismiss it as an excuse.

I didn't dismiss it, I said its part of the reason it bombed.

But again, that doesn't mean it didn't bomb!

"That's like saying a teacher not excusing a kid for failing to turn in his homework because his house burned down the night before."

OK, now thats the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard. This isn't a kid. This isn't a personal loss.
(and its shameful that you're comparing that0

This is a professional developer making a business mistake. Development means knowing the market, pricing it right, etc. If he blows a market call, then he's a bad developer.
And then his development is a BOMB.

Jeez, really, now you're just grasping at straws.

> And I never called you or Truth a liar. You cannot say the same.

Well, for one, we didn't lie. YOU did.

What you said was not only worse, it was untrue.

AND you started with personal insults.

You certainly can't say the same.

"You are right about one thing, this has gotten childish. So I call on you again to stop with the childishness and insults. "

Lets see, you START the childishness and insults, and havne't stopped, and you're calling on ME to stop. Laughable.

> Well gator you did compare them to rush and beck. that's pretty much calling them liars.

Yup. Or how about..

"Truth, you know that somewherelse is a drive-by hater. Knows nothing about OBBP"

and

"Problem is the facts indicate that he was wrong then and he is wrong "

sounds like I was called a liar there too.

all that BEFORE I addressed him.

and then

"No point in arguing with you; facts don't matter, other people's opinions don't matter"

and then it goes on.

And, besides the fact that he started acting like a child unprompted, and started the insults, he lied as well.

Me calling him on that lie is more than warranted.

> Why is Gator the kid getting beat up constantly on this thread?

Because Gator likes starting with people. Take a look at the thread, he'll pull out insults if he doesn't like what you've said.

> And kudos for him for defending his home.

Defend your home, sure. But if you have to resort to insults and lying to do so, I don't think you get any kudos.

"I'm just looking for negatives to this place. For me, a single guy, i think a 1br in this place would be great."

Well, I think thats the problem. BH isn't fantastic for single males to start, it runs older, and more families, and the retail/bars are geared toward that... and this is on the other side of the bqe from that. Its a long walk to get to a so-so spot for singles. You can walk to the columbia heights disctrict, which is better, but still small and still cut off by the bqe. Your choice set will be pretty limited. The building will be a bit of an island, and you have to figure its been attracting a more family set given who is looking for space... and I'm always weary of looking just within your building for socialization. Thats a bit creepy.

You're near Smith, and thats a great spot to me.... but 1BBP is in an area thats a far cry from that.
Try getting a girl to make that walk with you. ;-)

And then its overpriced for what it is.

i don't plan on a sizeable family in the next 5 or so years. I currently live in boerum hill off smith st and its great. granted the scene at obbp isn't as good but its not far away. so what, good place for me or not? thanks.

> aboutready, fair enough indeed!!! somewhereelse is limbaugh, whereas ab_ is beck.

And gator is rod blagojevich

somewhere, you keep calling me a liar. I haven't lied about anything and you know it. Show me one thing I lied about, just one. Saying that you don't know anything about OBBP is stating my opinion, not calling you a liar about anything. You're not a liar; if anything you are recklessly misinformed as your comments about Edge and Toren demonstrate.

By the way, saying that someone was wrong is not in any way the same thing as saying that person is a liar. I said you were wrong, not that you were a liar. Huge difference.

And I don't pull out insults when I don't like what somebody has said. All I have tried to do on this thread is return the discuss to an actual and honest discussion about the building. I did get insulting when you showed back up on this thread to make a self-congratulatory proclamation that you were right and that OBBP is a bomb. Did you really expect that that type of inflammatory post wouldn't invite a a farily pointed response?

"somewhere, you keep calling me a liar. I haven't lied about anything and you know it."

Another lie.

"Show me one thing I lied about, just one"

Already did. Go look up there, to yet another post you ignored.

"According to somewhereelse and ab_ virtually every new development condo in the City is a bomb."

Lie.

"By the way, saying that someone was wrong is not in any way the same thing as saying that person is a liar. I said you were wrong, not that you were a liar. Huge difference."

I agree, there is being mistaken, and there is lying. You've done both.

> And I don't pull out insults when I don't like what somebody has said.

Sure you do. Its all in black and white right up there

"All I have tried to do on this thread is return the discuss to an actual and honest discussion about the building."

Actually, most of what you have done is the opposite. Any points you disagree with, instead of actually addressing the points, you go to insults and "you don't know anything" and comparisons to RUsh Limbaugh.

That is NOT actual and honest discussion.

If you want actual and honest discussion, try it yourself sometime.

also "you don't know anything about 1BBP" is also a lie... and that was in your first response.

"It's just a pissing match that doesn't help anyone or provide any useful information at this point."

gator, keep that in mind. somewhereelse does this time and time again on countless threads under at least 3 known aliases here. Long, vituperative diatribes, attacks, insults, cries of hypocrisy and lying (when he's the one doing both, ad nauseum), with no substance whatsoever. He's a classic troll. Don't respond and let the discussion focus on topics actually relevant here. Let me start:

Do you know which lines look over the BQE? How many of those units are sold/in contract? How many are left?

the pimple troll returns! Knew he couldn't go a week.

You can't go a couple hours. Wait, steveF is posting something - better go hyperventilate over there now!

watch, I can post anything and bjw will respond with something.

blabbity bloo. Kid Rock. Pi.

Gator: Because it upsets you so much to be on here.

I don't want you to get high blood-pressure.

I need you healthy in good fighting form.

I can't believe I just wasted an hour of my life reading this discussion. You guys are all insane. Gator, since you actually live in the building, I'm inclined to believe your opinions. Honestly, Somewhere/Truth, don't you guys have *anything* better to do? You don't live here, you're not considering buying, and you're not doing anything constructive for anyone - you're just determined to convince Gator that he's wrong no matter how much of your lives it consumes. Seriously. WTF is wrong with you guys.

abk-wtb: Hallelujah! Somewhere/Truth you are pathetic, self consumed and have contributed nothing to what this board is supposed to be about.

Thanks abk. Bjw is right and the sad fact is that I know somewhereelese's MO and still took the bait. Sometimes I don't know better.

But I will take bjw's excellent assist in refocusing the discussion on topics that are actually relevant to the building. There are many lines that face the BQE. I can provide a list later but it includes lines 10-13. I don't have a count on the number the BQE facing units are sold or in contracts, but I do know that both the 10 and 13 lines (2 bed/2 bath units) are sold out (the maybe one low floor unit left). Generally, the BQE facing units, particularly on the higher floors, have sold quite well, in part, I think due to the fact that OBBP was more aggressive in cutting prices on these units. I'll see if I can dig up/compile some hard data.

gator, right on. And don't worry about taking the bait - some people are just extraordinarily talented at being irritating. Thanks for the info - look forward to more detail if you're able to pull it up. It would be interesting to see how their pricing strategy has paid off in terms of these less desirable views on the BQE and what it potentially means for remaining units.

"Thanks abk. Bjw is right and the sad fact is that I know somewhereelese's MO and still took the bait. Sometimes I don't know better"

Gator, your inference that you were responding to MY transgressions is hillarious.
Again, you started out with insults!

Don't pretend you are a sane person who got roped in.

You started the nonsense!

And now you're playing victim.

Hillarious.

Btw, separate stat... Forte sold out, according to the claim on the Toren post.

If we can confirm, that doesn't help the 1BBP case.

"I know somewhereelse's MO and still took the bait." Yeah, that's some insult.

Forte cannot be used in any comparison with OBBP; its apples and oranges. Completely different composition, pricing range, etc. And, what you don't realize swe is that Forte was essentially a foreclosure (the developer worked out a deal to tranfer the property to the lender) that was fire-saled after the lender took over.

abk: Gator and I are good. I wish all buyers at OBBP well, and hope that they enjoy living there. If something doesn't work out, for whatever reason; Gator has my contact info.

jocuru: You would be lucky to have a life that's even half as good as mine is. Nothing pathetic about it. I despise RAL for good reasons. I have not posted any comments about you, nor in response to you until now. You have the option of going to Gator's web-page as an alternative , but this is an open forum.

> "I know somewhereelse's MO and still took the bait." Yeah, that's some insult.

Uh, hmm... that wasn't any of the insults I was referring to.

> Completely different composition, pricing range, etc.

All those things factor in to why something bombs or not... for instance, had 1BBP changed its pricing range, it might not have bombed. And thats part of the point, yes, they're different.... and 1BBP made some miscalculations and should have been at least somewhat different from what it tried to be.

I went to One Bridge Park this past weekend, and I have to say despite it's volatile history this place has some serious wow factor. It may not be place for us right now -- part of which is because we can only afford the BQE side on a lower floor at this point. But I can totally see this place being very compelling when I'm barefoot and pregnant.

The sales agent also said prices were due to rise this week or next, so get it while the gettins good!

some photos: http://www.joshandmarie.us/2010/06/13/one-bridge-park/

> The sales agent also said prices were due to rise this week or next, so get it while the gettins good!

Haven't they been saying that for a couple years now (as they dropped prices)?
It might carry some weight if they had actually sold a substantial chunk of the building after this many years.

The sales agent also said prices were due to rise this week or next, so get it while the gettins good!

Nothing helps sell stagnant inventory like raising prices. Now for only $1.2 million you can overlook a truck depot and your neighbor's window. I went there too, under $1.3 million, the views are deplorable. High taxes, high common charges, truck depot views, time to raise the price. The agent shows you apartments 30% over your budget to elicit oohs and ahs and then drops the BQE and brick wall views on you. Not a workable strategy and a price hike is not going to help.

somewhere, and treetownal: Common sense statements. Reality. RAL is doing his usual screwing -over of people.

As I've always said, if you can't sell...

you might as well have a $3 million apartment you can't sell, rather than a $2 million apartment you can't sell.

Check the closings, OBBP is selling and selling well (of course "selling well" is a matter of perspective and we all know swe's perspective) in the current real estate environment, including many $1.5+ million closings. Sales traction had been strong, but the opening of Pier 6 has really ratcheted things up -- the sales office has been packed since Pier 6 opened. Nothing stagnant about the inventory. Closings and sales office traffic are facts, but keep spouting your perspective. No one's listenting anymore.

Treetownal, your points regarding high taxes (in 20 years maybe, but who knows what the tax rates will be then), high common charges (compared to what; many BH coops have similar carry costs with virtually none of the amentities offered at OBBP), and views (deplorable views - I don't even know how to respond; I'm on the Brooklyn side and my view is fantastic) have been addressed numerous times. The building's not for you...next.

"OBBP is selling and selling well (of course "selling well" is a matter of perspective and we all know swe's perspective) "

YEARS of selling and being mostly UNsold... is not selling well by ANY perspective outside of the insane perspective, the broker shill perspective, or the living on Pluto perspective.

swe, selling well since price cuts in Oct.'09. The only building in Brooklyn that I can think of that has sold better is One Hanson Place. OBBP is now 50% sold which should provide more traction. Keep spinning though.

> The only building in Brooklyn that I can think of that has sold better is One Hanson Place

If you are claiming that no Brooklyn building got to 50% sold faster than these two, you are positively off your rocker.

"I'm on the Brooklyn side and my view is fantastic"
Are you being sarcastic (toward yourself) or demented???! Or is the developper insane? Isn't it b/c of your "fanstastic" BQE view they discounted your apt the cheapest per sf in the whole building? 700+k for 1442 sf, that's $500/sf, even lower than the "moderate income" units at Toren, repriced Be@schermerhorn, or barely matching the firesale at Forte?
The only one that beat you is the same line downstairs: 600+k for the same 1442sf, which might qualify for the cheapest in the whole BH-BoCoCa-Dobro-FG-PS-PH area!
Why the cheap person is giving out advice for the others' investment (which might be the biggest in their life) as if he were Warren Buffett? Pleeezzz give us a break!

leom - as with Warren Buffet, only time will tell about gator's investment.
But again, only time will tell who fared better at choosing quality and convenience (gator) over today's savings (leom). In leom's case, he might be stepping over a dime to pick up a nickle
As for now, gator enjoys a fantastic full service building at a reasonable price in one of the best neighborhoods in nyc. You, on the other hand, only feel fantastic about the potential of flatbush avenue, 20 extra minutes to work, and nearby projects. If you're so down on the economy, your 'hoods will suffer the most; Heights will hold value. btw, the street near Forte has as much traffic as bqe. I mentioned earlier, we went to see Forte, once you open the windows, the noise from the 4-lane street is just as strong as when you pass by BQE... We thought it was def too expensive for a location. Atlantic Yards will be a major project for the next 5 yrs, not to mention the stadium crowds passing through and leaving 1,000 tons of trash after every game night.
Did i mention we have a water view from each of the terraces and a park downstairs... with trees and playgrounds?

bls: Don't want to argue with you, b/c even though your argument is flawed in many cases, at least you are using logic, albeit imperfect.
But you totally missed the point: I was only commenting on that "fantastic" view toward BQE. If you agree with Gator THAT view is worthy a superlative, why are you willing to spend half a million more to get a "water view from terraces"? :)

27 units closed in May
19 units closed in April
10 units closed in March

"I'm on the Brooklyn side and my view is fantastic"
I agree 100% with gator. I have a Brooklyn view as well. I have an amazing view of Brooklyn Heights and what you could call a downtown Brooklyn skyline. There is so much light in the apartment all day long -- especially in the morning. It's great to wake up every morning with all of that sunlight throughout my living space. I am very happy my unit and the entire building.

"an amazing view of Brooklyn Heights"
- Under the condition that you keep a distance of 3-7 feet (depending on the floor) from the windows (which are placed unusually high) and never look down. Hope you will set up a "no entry" zone for your guests, so that you don't get embarrassed by their horrified face when they get close to the windows.
"wake up every morning with all of that sunlight"
- Do you wake up at 5am? LOL. And why don't you mention how the natural light is after 10am? Gator's 10 line, ie., has another special feature: one (again) highly placed small window is split into a deep master bd (with a even deeper totally "black out" walk in closet) and a 2nd bd awckwardly carved out from the sleeping area, which makes both very dark except the early morning. Those handful of units stayed on the market for 3 months even after the drastic >35% price chop & despite the $500/sf low unit price. Common sense: you get what you pay for!
However, being happy is subjective. No one can argue. But are you saying the blsconnect is a sucker for paying extra half a million for " water view from each of the terraces". :)

Hi Leom. I don't want to go back and forth with this like you and gator have in the past. :) Just wanted to comment on some of your points since I do live in the building.

Regarding the view
-I actually encourage all of my guests to look down and play the game "let's see the car try to merge onto the bqe and not not get hit".

"And why don't you mention how the natural light is after 10am?"
-I did. I said "there is so much light in the apartment all day".

"Do you wake up at 5am?"
-I keep my bedroom shades down so I can sleep. I am referring to the intense light in the morning in the living space where we have no shades.
-The light in the 10 line is especially intense in both bedrooms in the morning. You must have black out shades or else you will be up at 5am. During the day, the lighting in the master bedroom is fine with the shades up. During the day the smaller bedroom is very bright because it gets light from its window as well as the large windows from the living space.

"Water view from each of the terraces"
-That certainly sounds nice to me. Both Brooklyn and water views are great. Each person chooses based upon what he/she can afford, the desired square footage, and personal preference.

Be well and enjoy your weekend.

kg2 - Maybe we have different standards. But I checked out all the 2bd 2bth last Sept and have to tell the truth: I genuinely find 10 line to be darkish and unpleasant. So did most other visitors, which is reflected in the fact that, even though peope lined to check it out (open houses were also packed back then b/c of the new 35% off) & despite the lowest price/sf, 10 line even on the upper floors was not all spoken for until 2-3 months later! And then the sales office released 13 line, which is the mirror image of the 10...
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Can't agree more that each person has his personal preference. But "fantastic" still sounds too much to me. Even if I were a biased (who isn't?) owner, I'd think it's more appropriate to say: it's still decent, not that bad, not as good as the waterview but well worth the $300k discount... B/c when prospective buyers seek advice on SE, they need objective opinions that the market supports, not a "superlative" that describes a caracteristic b/c of which a product is hugely discounted. Otherwise, one would loose any credibility.

Speaking of my own experience with OBBP:
18 line is much nicer but I heard helicopters on East River as well as noice from BQE during the tour; 05 (smallish) & 41 have truck depot view & future development; 28 is farther from BQE but the tall windows look into the corner unit across the courtyard & vice versa...
Also, more than 40 units feels overwhelming to me (if they used letters, OBBP would exhaust the alphabet A-Z and continue with AA, BB, CC...) I talked about my daunting experiecne visiting Corinthian in Murray Hill on another thread: every unit emanates different smell b/c of cooking etc, with various subscribed newspapers lying in the hallway; you also overhear music or conversation when passing by each front door. It feels like a dated Holiday Inn! However, with 800+ units spread on 40+ floor, Corinthian should only have half units per floor OBBP'S. The image after 40+ neighbours move in and live on the same fl is not appealing to me.
Plus, land lease, high cc, low soldness, pollution from BQE, long walk to the subway, limited choices for dining & shopping in the immediate vicinity, mediocre school, etc... I finally passed on OBBP after a couple of visits even though I do think it's a unique and solid building with pleinty of amenities & elegant finishes.
I can't think of any interests talking down another fellow Bkln development (the building I bought into has long sold out and is making a good return to me). However, I feel obliged to tell the prospective buyers about the landlease, planned development to the southwest etc. b/c I don't believe the sales agents will volunteer to brief them on these.
Again, everyone has different standard & preference. Hopefully the heated discussion & opinions from different perspective will help the folks on this board a more informed decision. The bottomline is, no buyer will invest in a property sight unseen. They will see it in person, walk the distance from the building to subway back and forth. Our argument, be it for or against, will only serve as a reference at the most.
Time to go to bed now: have booked tickets for Toy Story tomorrow morning. :)
Nice weekend to you!

Your move-in kit for OBBP should include a crash-helmet.

While you are admiring the view, etc.: you may find yourself knocked to the floor; one of your fine finishes might be on top of you or maybe just your head.

RAL isn't worried: "If anything happens -- it's the architect's problem."

"As for now, gator enjoys a fantastic full service building at a reasonable price in one of the best neighborhoods in nyc"

Except its not, its in one of the worst places (I'd actually call it a non-neighborhood) in all of expensive Brooklyn.

If it was in a good neighborhood, it would be a different story.

But anyone calling this "in one of the best neighborhoods in NYC", well, just doesn't know NYC.

"Except its not, its in one of the worst places (I'd actually call it a non-neighborhood) in all of expensive Brooklyn.
If it was in a good neighborhood, it would be a different story."

I've never seen someone spend so much time railing against the supposed "awful" location yet be so wrong about it. To be clear, I don't see anyone championing this as the single best spot in the city. The point is that it's literally a stone's throw from Willow Place, Grace Court, Joralemon St, which are some of the best blocks in Brooklyn Heights. Sure, I can understand being ultra-rigid about boundary lines, but when you're literally 50 feet from one of the inarguably most desirable neighborhoods in Brooklyn, calling it "one of the worst places" and harping on and on about how it has nothing (in spite of brand new park land and a waterfront) seems a bit extreme to me, if not altogether uninformed. Sounds like you really do live somewhereelse.

This whole discussion, specifically the haters, reminds me of a scene in Private Parts (the Howard Stern movie)

"The avg Howard fan listens for 45 minutes a day, the avg Howard Stern hater listens an average of 90 minutes a day". The 3 or 4 people who hate the building by far post the most often and the longest posts, like its some sort of weird obesession. Ok you 3, we get it, you hate the building and the location and this and that. Your point is cleared and you've said more or less the same thing 1000 times ad naseum.

jj26: You are entitled to post your comment here; as many and as often as you want.

The same goes for me, somewhereelse, leom...

You can go to "the web-page".
Or, scroll on by us ; if you want.

P.S.: I never listen to Howard Stern.

wow, bjw, I guess you really can't go a post without talking about me personally.

Your obsession with me seems to know no bounds!

btw, you know what else is also a stone's throw from prime Brooklyn Heights?

the bottom of the east river...

"Your point is cleared and you've said more or less the same thing 1000 times ad naseum. "

The ironic part is that what gets responded to is the stuff that pops up to the top.

The stuff that gets shilled the most generally takes the most heat. And this is certainly up there.

"The 3 or 4 people who hate the building by far post the most often and the longest posts, like its some sort of weird obesession"

And even I don't post on it as much as Gator... who, btw, seems to be as obsessed with people's personal lives as bjw.

Truth - don't know much about construction. Perhaps you are privy to something we're not and know more about the shortcuts taken during construction, can't argue there...
However, let me add this - most "industry insiders" are very wary of the industries they're most knowledgeable about... I know engineers who work on Boeings and will never fly; i know bankers who keep all their money in cash and gold; i know chefs who would never ever eat out at a restaurant unless they personally know the chef and saw the kitchen. In my understanding - this points out to a high level of imperfections in all industries. Construction as well, i am told.
Again, can't attest to the quality of the "bone" re-construction - but all appliances are working, water is great tasting, high pressure in the shower; can't hear the neighbors (and yes, there are neighbors:) Terraces, common places are beautiful and nothing has fallen so far... just sayin...

Many people, many opinions, many comments on many strings/threads. All here on SE.

and always the folks with the least courage of their convictions who complain about responses to them.

somewhereelse - when was the last time you visited New York? 1980s?

leom - :) "But are you saying the blsconnect is a sucker for paying extra half a million for " water view from each of the terraces". - you have no idea what a sucker I am, since I was referring to the view from the common terraces and not from my own... i wish i had 2 terraces to call my own. darn, i'm all upset now.
Seriously - i'm in the courtyard and the sun is really unbelievable in the morning. I can only imagine how bright it is on the Brooklyn side. You know this weekend, i was in boston, and all along Charles River there is a 4-line highway - it's more modern than BQE, and has plenty of overpasses to the park along the river. One day, one day...

"wow, bjw, I guess you really can't go a post without talking about me personally."

Read carefully: I actually said next to nothing about you personally. I merely pointed out that your incredibly repetitive statements are pretty off-base. No reason to take that so personally. You cry "obsession" but it just seems to be a knee-jerk when you don't like something or want to distract from your being wrong.

"btw, you know what else is also a stone's throw from prime Brooklyn Heights?
the bottom of the east river..."

Really? That's the best you've got? Does nothing to bolster any of your points.

the lady doth protest too much

Indeed, the lady protests on every OBBP thread ad nauseum.

Still nothing to back up your "argument," huh? Oh well.

somewhereelse - too funny, do you want us to talk about you personally? I mean, we can, but unfortunately so far nothing personally has been said about you by anyone. except me - but i was just checking when you were in Brooklyn Heights last - with the park and Columbia Place with Iris Cafe and River Deli and 5 min to Connecticut Muffin and 15 min to waterstreet in dumbo - why are we still arguing whether OBBP is in Brooklyn Heights? perhaps it wasn't in the 1980s, but it is now.

you never argue with drunks, fools, or stalkers... especially when they pull out the strawmen as usual!

time to take your meds, bjw

"time to take your meds, bjw"

You complain about personal attacks, but there you go. It's been fun, as usual, humpy!

you really can't stop, can you... you'll really respond to anything!

Yes, I respond to every single one of your posts on this entire board. Totally. And you never respond to mine. Astute.

btw, did you really try and use the pee wee herman defense?

pathetic...

"Yes, I respond to every single one of your posts on this entire board. Totally. And you never respond to mine. Astute."

First stop to fixing your problem is recognizing it. Good first step.

Now go hump someone else.

Yeah, not very quick on the sarcasm, are ya humpy?

clearly 10,000 miles ahead of you, when you missed it thrown right back at you!
lol!

keep humping and stalking, bjw!

I'm sure you'll keep it going... sure you'll keep responding...

No, my points have been made. But you'll work to get your last word in there as you always do, humpy!

"But you'll work to get your last word in there "

the irony!

"Humpy"?! bjw: Nothing against you, as you know...But the best last word you've got is "humpy"?

Last time I heard that comeback, was out of the mouth of a 5-year-old; to a 4-year- old in the park.

Maybe OBBP is a great place for you to hang out -- there's a kiddie park there.

Truth, I'm a kid at heart. Seriously though, you obviously haven't followed the ongoing "discussion" between swe and myself (mostly on other threads) - he tries to hump me whenever I post, and does the same with a host of other posters on here. It's bizarre. I could use more colorful language, but I'm not really into that at this point, you know? The irony, of course, is that he did exactly as predicted. He humped.

bjw: Don't engage in the intercourse, and then complain about the sweat.

Truth: where did you see me complain? Sorry, you're off base here.

Bjw: Um, your previous comment.

"It's bizarre" is complaining? Bizarre.

bjw: You're doing it right now.

Are you trying to hump me? No thanks, anyway.

Ok truth, you're a bit touchy it seems. Maybe you know a bit too much about those kiddie parks after all...

bjw: With somewhereelse nowhere in site/sight; you are doin' the humpy with me.

Proves that you just love to get the last word in.

I know a lot about parks. Playgrounds, I go to with my friend's kids. Kiddie parks, too.

Maybe you were in Central Park playground, at 3:30 pm on that afternoon in April.

Maybe you are the 5-year-old who called that 4-year-old "humpy".

You should be skipped up to second grade, based on your advanced reading and writing skills.

"Proves that you just love to get the last word in."

Right, except that I didn't respond to his last comment, then you jumped in and suggested I hang out in a kiddie park and are as guilty as anyone of playing humpy on this thread. It's cool that you want to dispense some personal insults and then get agitated when I dare respond. Fun stuff.

bjw: You are a big baby.

I'm not agitated by you.

Your bottie is ready.

Time for your nappy change, too.

Gaa-gaa, goo-goo. Fun for you.

"Cute, cute
as a button
Don't you want to let him stay up late?" ("Stay Up Late" The Talking Heads)

Moderators, please erase this entire "message board" Its 95% nonsense and semi retarded insults of people who don't even know eachother. Thank you

You're humpy
Real mature
You're stupid
Stop complaining
You're being mean
Best building ever
You're so stupid, its the worst
You don't know anything
Theres pollution near there
Theres pollution everywhere in NYC
Being near the water is nice
Being near the water sucks
I'm so happy I bought a place here
You're just mad you bought an apt here

Did I miss any other quality posts? This message board is like a comedy... starring Andy Dick.

JJ26:

Thanks for the review!

Ah, Truth, so you're a giant troll. I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt. Please piss off. I do like the Talking Heads though.

Can I do an e-hump and still claim to be faithful to my wife?

I'm new here.

bjw: I don't need the "benefit" of your doubt.

In the very few responses that I've directed to you in the past 6 months that I've been posting on SE; I've always been nice to you.

I don't have the time to follow your arguments with somewherelse, on this site.
I don't follow anyone, on various threads.

I come on when I have some spare time. Not to keep scores and count/follow comments.

I'm an adult and I have real work to do. No time to follow you and your postings.

By the way, since you now want to get nasty about it: you're an ass8ole baby.

You closed on the unit before this issue was resolved?

> bjw: With somewhereelse nowhere in site/sight; you are doin' the humpy with me.
> Proves that you just love to get the last word in.

ROTFL LMAO.

Oh, Momma! Sorry, but I warned about this type of problem. It was the Truth.

Street Easy: WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO THE COMMENT POSTED BY "Momma"?

seriously...what happened to it? I was waiting for the fireworks from gator and company. this is shady

very shady indeed. that comment for sure was not very helpful for the OBBP sales team...

Did anybody get a chance to print it out? I just logged on, and didn't get a chance. RAL's lawyer at work, doing the dirty cover-up. SHAME ON YOU, STREETEASY!

Stay on it, I have to go out. Catch it when Momma posts it back on, and print it out. Please. Thanks.